Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
And the scars were religious and out to kill lesbians
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StreetsofBeige
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
MilkLizard
Member
The hateboner some of you have for this game is too funny. It's just a game, chill a bit.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The Last Of Us Part II’s Sex Scene Featuring Abby, Promoted as "Tasteful,” Leaks Ahead of Official Release
The Last of Us II's "tasteful" sex scene, featuring newcomer Abby, has leaked just days before the game's official release.
boundingintocomics.com
Contrary to initial assumptions, the character featured is not the member of Abby’s gang who spits upon Joel after a fight and bears a striking resemblance to Druckmann himself.
The inclusion of this scene in The Last of Us Part II also exposes the double standards of Sony themselves. While this scene was allowed to be shown in their Triple-A franchise title, even the most minor hints of sexual content, primarily from Japanese video games, has received obsessive censorship from the company.
phat_crazy
Member
Not it's simple as
1) The game not having as as good of a story as the first one
This second game story is simply not good and many agree
2) Forcing a structure on fans no one asked for
Anyone who played the game knows what I'm talking about
3) Launching a smear campaign against anyone who didn't like or criticizes the game
Not everyone who dislikes the game is some "anti-sjw" type
Explosive Zombie
Banned
The Last Of Us Part II’s Sex Scene Featuring Abby, Promoted as "Tasteful,” Leaks Ahead of Official Release
The Last of Us II's "tasteful" sex scene, featuring newcomer Abby, has leaked just days before the game's official release.
Contrary to initial assumptions, the character featured is not the member of Abby’s gang who spits upon Joel after a fight and bears a striking resemblance to Druckmann himself.
The inclusion of this scene in The Last of Us Part II also exposes the double standards of Sony themselves. While this scene was allowed to be shown in their Triple-A franchise title, even the most minor hints of sexual content, primarily from Japanese video games, has received obsessive censorship from the company.
The character had an actual person he was modeled after, not Druckmann. Leo DiCaprio looks a bit like Christopher Nolan's son, you think Nolan is saying he mind-fucked his wife into killing herself? Or maybe he just wants to?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The Last Of Us Part II’s Sex Scene Featuring Abby, Promoted as "Tasteful,” Leaks Ahead of Official Release
The Last of Us II's "tasteful" sex scene, featuring newcomer Abby, has leaked just days before the game's official release.
Contrary to initial assumptions, the character featured is not the member of Abby’s gang who spits upon Joel after a fight and bears a striking resemblance to Druckmann himself.
The inclusion of this scene in The Last of Us Part II also exposes the double standards of Sony themselves. While this scene was allowed to be shown in their Triple-A franchise title, even the most minor hints of sexual content, primarily from Japanese video games, has received obsessive censorship from the company.
1. They didn't know the actor who played Manny.
2. The controversy was about the sex scene. Laura Bailey had to make a statement about it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The main backlash was the messed up and misleading story. People jumped onto the Abby trans thing as a laugh. I don't even think we need to do spoiler tags anymore, but just in case here's the main kicker. Name one person who liked this switcheroo BS:
Game promoted as tons of Joel in it. He gets killed early. Half the game is Abby. And those old teaser previews bait and switched Joel with someone else in the final game
Explosive Zombie
Banned
They never teased "tons" of Joel. The amount of time he spends present in the trailers collectively is insanely minimal. Watch them all again, count it. Yes, they did do a bait and switch with one particular scene, but that was also his only appearance in the trailer you mentioned. Not sure it'd be preferable they out-and-out said
hey, Joel dies in this
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
ND wouldn't have to say that. Just don't show Joel in those switcheroo scenes. There's no reason to even have him in those preview shots if the final game has another character there.
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Blond
Banned
Well if you the anti semitic shit he was getting for days and days you'd probably say the same thing. It's a game people, let it go. It doesn't need to live rent free in your heads...
Explosive Zombie
Banned
It's clever misdirection, they did a similar thing with the 2014 Godzilla movie (most movies due it, usually by splicing two shots together to create a false impression) where they edited out all the other monsters in the trailer shots, including shots the monsters are in in the movie to keep you in the dark about it. It also had a backlash from people who wanted a movie where Godzilla is the villain but honestly the sort of people who want to know whole stories prior to seeing them shouldn't have so much of a say on this stuff.
Blond
Banned
I love how people focused so hard on this card when so many people on the development team had one too. And if self inserting is bad I guess that means most of Tarantino's films are now shit
I don't blame him for having an eff the haters attitude. When devs stand up to the woke brigade and tell them where to stick it we all clap for them for refusing to back down but when Neil takes the same mentality towards the haters he is wrong about it. Why doesn't he have as much right to stand up for his creation as anybody else?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
That's a different kind of misdirection because because putting explosion and actions scenes in a trailer out of sequence is to protect the chronological order of the plot. Nobody expects any movie trailer to show the whole plot from beginning to end in 30 seconds.
Joel being bait and switched in trailers would be like showing Arnold in Terminator movie ads thinking he's the main character, but turns out he's barely in the movie, or he's edited out and replaced with a different human or CGI terminator.
That's a BS misdirection on cast, in which if people are shown in a movie, they expect them to be there and not edited out and replaced with another character in the same scene.
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Athreous
Member
I started by hating this game, based in the leaks that I read and watched... I really hated it... story wise.
But then, after talking about the game with a friend, who didn't even play the 1st game, he kinda showed me some good points about everything else, since the story looked really bad... He bought me the game and then I started playing it... And guys, I'm really in love with it... I totally changed my mind... I wanted to kill Abby in so many ways when I read the spoilers lol... but then, after actually playing it, even with that very bad written plot in the first 2 hours of the game, the rest of it looks really awesome... the combat, the characters, the art of the game, even abby, I kinda like her...
Sadly the game was bashed so bad, that it ended up killing the sales... (it sold many copies, I know, but it could've sold a lot more...
So please, if you didn't buy the game based on the "plot" or because of the lgbt agenda that it might have, I must say, give it a try, because even if you don't like the story (what I doubt, if you actually play it), at least everything else is really worth your time.
But then, after talking about the game with a friend, who didn't even play the 1st game, he kinda showed me some good points about everything else, since the story looked really bad... He bought me the game and then I started playing it... And guys, I'm really in love with it... I totally changed my mind... I wanted to kill Abby in so many ways when I read the spoilers lol... but then, after actually playing it, even with that very bad written plot in the first 2 hours of the game, the rest of it looks really awesome... the combat, the characters, the art of the game, even abby, I kinda like her...
Sadly the game was bashed so bad, that it ended up killing the sales... (it sold many copies, I know, but it could've sold a lot more...
So please, if you didn't buy the game based on the "plot" or because of the lgbt agenda that it might have, I must say, give it a try, because even if you don't like the story (what I doubt, if you actually play it), at least everything else is really worth your time.
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Blond
Banned
She was clearly meant to be a secret before the leaker spoiled the whole thing. That being said, I'm probably the worse person to speak too about the game because I thought the first game was absolutely positively meh from start to finish. I quit the PS3 version half way through, thought it focused on the story too much and it took a 60fps remaster in the PS4 on sale to get me interested again enough to finish it.
TLOU 2 felt like more of a video game in my eyes and the gameplay trailers had me more interested than anything story related with all the combat and stealth changes and the story was a legit surprise to me, one of the best since Silent Hill 2.
I guess I just care more about how it played than any perceived "betrayal" towards the fan base and the great story was a bonus: And even then I was never one to feel like that, even after Neegan split Glen's head open like a Gallagher melon I just enjoyed both the comic and show to see where it was going. Hell, The Wire and Oz killed series favorites on the regular and it was just accepted that it needed to happen to move the story along.
I feel like video games have to walk a fine line between player first design and story telling because if you tell the story you want to tell you run the risk of pissing off the audience.
Neff
Member
The Scars are religious, but it's a fictional religion.
Outragemongers were at one point assuming the Seraphites were a Christian sect just so they could justify disliking the game.
ZZZZ
Member
I bought it, played through the end, shitty 30fps controller shooter, plus a really bad story and characters, worst stealth mechanics than MGS V and Dishonored, specially when you can play both at 144fps on a M+KB.
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Thats my main point and the hater boner went along with it
PleaseWaitStation4
Banned
There's not much more cash in the woke cookie jar to fund your gaytopia takeover. At the end of the day, normies can't relate, but we still love ya, *pat pat.
Athreous
Member
Well, tlou is more of a complete game then mgs that would be almost 100% stealth, so I dunno if this is a fair comparison hehe
ZZZZ
Member
Do you want to take a bet TLOU2 player numbers will be lower than God of War in the first 120 days? Every day that passes the lead just increases.
freefornow
Member
This is so going to get bundled with PS5 at launch (see guys, we do back compat even though every one says no one plays old games on new systems. And dont forget, play has no limits when there is this much stock in the warehouse).
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Boss Mog
Member
The majority of sales were from pre-orders and people going in blind on release day. Naughty Dog was extremely deceitful with their trailers and gameplay showings leading up to release. Once word got out about this, most people that waited no longer had any interest in the game so it would make sense that it was not in the top 20 in August.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Why would I do that knowing GoW was on sale for nearly the entire summer?
Lionel Richie
Member
Sony fans, are we ready to admit this game bombed when you consider the budget? I know I'm a Nintenchad and I might sound like a troll, but I actually wanted to believe in this game and I rooted for it to deliver because the team had to pull through so much shit. But it wasn't there. Maybe some self-reflection is in order? Is ND going to do the same game forever?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Go on Twitter and ask Mat Piscatella or ZhugeEX if the game bombed.
They're going to tell you no, but I'm sure you're going to find some reason to disagree with him. lol
angrod14
Member
From one perspective, I respect the fact that ND defended their vision and the game they wanted to make, instead of simply delivering what people expected from them. What bothers me, though, is that they're coming around as so closed from any sort of criticism, instead of being open-minded, taking notes, reflecting and trying to learn a little bit about what happened.
They obviously fucked it up big time from a business perspective. They could've told a story artistically just as good or better without alienating their audience, and save themselves from all the backlash they've got. I still can't believe Sony greenlighted that story.
They obviously fucked it up big time from a business perspective. They could've told a story artistically just as good or better without alienating their audience, and save themselves from all the backlash they've got. I still can't believe Sony greenlighted that story.
ZZZZ
Member
God of War took 41 days to reach 6M players, from 20-04-18 to 30-05-18, before the "June sale" you love to mention.
The Last of us 2 Took 51 days to reach 6M players from 19-06-20 to 20-08-08.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
TLOU 2 already passed UC4 in revenue in the US, which means a lot of those sales were due to bundles. I'll reach over 16 million.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Also GoW was 2018. LoU2 is 2020. Lots more PS4 systems on the market this year for LoU2 sales.
PS4 now has around 110M systems. in mid 2018, PS4 was around 80 million.
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ZZZZ
Member
And most of those sales were on the first 3 days thanks to the first game success.
More budget, more marketing, 2000 workers ( a record for a video game), etc...
cudiye
Member
You’re right, its August. I have updated the OT. Cheers my guy
ZZZZ
Member
What? We were talking about gameplay, they are both stealth games, TLOU2 even copy some mechanics from MGS V, it is a fair comparison to both MGS and Dishonored. All 3 games revolve around the player hiding and killings enemies without being seen, with the ability to kill even after being spotted.
Lionel Richie
Member
Budget considered? The game performed as well as everyone expected? I see. Well, I'll ask again once we have more concrete numbers.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Maybe there's one for just beating the game instead of platinuming it? Not sure where their numbers came from tbh.You are comparing a linear (abysmal) story game to open world/semi-open world games with side quests, optional areas, hidden secrets, endgame content and good story.
bender
What time is it?
Of course they are talking about finishing the game and not the Platinum.
TLOU2 - What I Had To Do - Complete the Story - 58.8%
I've not complete GOT but I'm assuming it's the Sovereign End trophy which is 58.6% So the completion percentage is virtually the same.
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ZZZZ
Member
Usually numbers are really high at the beginning, it goes down with time especially after sales.
bender
What time is it?
The GOT number surprised me.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
5/30/2018 -6/07/2018: 320k players
Days of Play
6/08/2018 - 6/16/2018: 480k players
6/19/2018 - 6/28/2018: 280k
6/29/2018 - 7/07/2018: 200k
Player account increased during Days of Play and fell by 200k the following week.
God of War was on sale again in July after Sony offered coupons on PSN.
Player count was 240k during this point
It was on sale again in August, which was as low as $35 on PSN.
God of War Receives Major Summer Sale Discount on PS4
The God of War sale price in Sony's Summer Sale has been reduced to just $34.99; a discount of 33%, one of the biggest sale reductions ever for the game.
www.vgr.com
Don't know When exactly the summer sale started, but compare July to August.
July: 770,000
August: 730,000
September 550,000
In 120 days, God of War went through 3 major discount promotions before Black Friday
God of War was $35 for a great part of August.
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LittleBigGamer
Banned
It will be the game of the generation probably. Get over it and move on. It's ok to be wrong.
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nyr88nyg
Banned
I cringed so hard when I saw this. Completely broke immersion.