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Possible signs of life found on Venus

RoadHazard

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Something deadly might be wafting through the clouds shrouding Venus—a smelly, flammable gas called phosphine that annihilates life-forms reliant on oxygen for survival. Ironically, though, the scientists who today announced sightings of this noxious gas in the Venusian atmosphere say it could be tantalizing—if controversial—evidence of life on the planet next door.


This is pretty damn cool if it turns out to be real.
 
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EverydayBeast

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Life on Venus

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MetalAlien

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"In 2019, Greaves, Sousa-Silva, and their colleagues followed up on the initial phosphine observation using ALMA, an array of telescopes on a high Chilean plateau. More sensitive than the Hawaii-based telescope, ALMA also observes the sky at radio frequencies, and it can detect the energy emitted and absorbed by any phosphine molecules spinning in the Venusian atmosphere.

Again, the team detected phosphine. This time, scientists could narrow down the molecule’s signal to equatorial latitudes and an altitude between 32 and 37 miles, where temperatures and pressures aren’t too harsh for life as we know it. Based on the signal’s strength, the team calculated that phosphine’s abundance is roughly 20 parts per billion, or at least a thousand times more than we find on Earth."

"In the outer solar system, phosphine is made deep in the interiors of Jupiter and Saturn. Near the giant planets’ cores, the temperatures and pressures are extreme enough to craft the molecule, which then rises through the atmosphere. But on rocky planets, where conditions are significantly less extreme, there’s no known way to make phosphine in the absence of life—it’s just too energetically demanding. In other words, if the observation of phosphine on Venus is right, something must be continually replenishing the molecule in the planet’s atmosphere. "
 
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MetalAlien

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We dont care about the possibility of life thanks to some gas. Make sure to bring the Aliens to us to show some prove.
Well this is a little different. Most times they just find conditions where life could form, or they see a fossil that resembles bacteria sort of. This gas is only known to be produced by life in places anywhere else expect the cores of gas giants. This is direct evidence.
 

ExpandKong

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Oh wow cool poison gas how great, wake me up when they've confirmed big ass alien titties

Could it be bacteria from Earth? We've sent quite a few missions there, specially the Russians.

That would be pretty wild if our space garbage ended up accidentally flooding Venus with poisonous gas.
 

GAMETA

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Oh wow cool poison gas how great, wake me up when they've confirmed big ass alien titties



That would be pretty wild if our space garbage ended up accidentally flooding Venus with poisonous gas.

Why you hating, man?

It's a molecule known to be produced by life forms. It's not something usually made from other processes that we know take place in Venus.

So it's possible evidence. It's no confirmation, it's only speculative info as of now, but it's something worthy of investigation.
 

IDKFA

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This is huge news.

I always thought Europa, Ganymede or
Enceladus would be the first place we would find alien life. Venus wasn't even considered.

This could be one of biggest discoveries of all time and absolutely should be reason to fast track a mission to Venus to further investigate.
 

ExpandKong

Banned
Why you hating, man?

It's a molecule known to be produced by life forms. It's not something usually made from other processes that we know take place in Venus.

So it's possible evidence. It's no confirmation, it's only speculative info as of now, but it's something worthy of investigation.

I am only slightly hating It is indeed an interesting discovery but also a grim reminder that I am going to be long dead before Liara T'Soni shows up at my doorstep for mind sex.
 

Scotty W

Gold Member
I’ve been on the internet ling enough to know that, no, they didn’t find life on Venus. And they won’t have found it when they announce it next year, or the year after that.
 

jshackles

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I heard women are from Venus

We've known that since 1992
 

MetalAlien

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I’ve been on the internet ling enough to know that, no, they didn’t find life on Venus. And they won’t have found it when they announce it next year, or the year after that.
I agree but is is slightly unique. They were so convinced this is a sign of life they were literally planning on using the presence of that gas as a sign of life in exoplanets and were dumbfounded when they detected it on Venus.
 

Furlong

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I’ve been on the internet ling enough to know that, no, they didn’t find life on Venus. And they won’t have found it when they announce it next year, or the year after that.

Yes, it sounds like someone just wants a funding increase.
 

#Phonepunk#

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Nobody cares about this? You guys are weird.
because we aren't falling over on the fainting couch over a conjecture based on a smelly gas on venus that is controversial in the scientific community because the data could be lacking?

like excuse me for not jumping up and down like a moron over this untested hypothesis
 
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RoadHazard

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Could it be bacteria from Earth? We've sent quite a few missions there, specially the Russians.

I don't think so. Any amount of bacteria we might have brought there and who might somehow have survived would still be too few to produce detectable signs like this.
 

GAMETA

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I don't think so. Any amount of bacteria we might have brought there and who might somehow have survived would still be too few to produce detectable signs like this.

The first human object to enter Venus was in 1966.

If we had brought some bacteria and that bacteria had somehow thrived in the atmosphere, being the one and only entity alive, do you think it'd be impossible? I'm really asking, I have no idea how fast bacteria can reproduce in perfect conditions.
 

Mihos

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It's pretty cool. I am not sure it will have to do with anything biological. There is lots phosphine on Saturn and Jupiter also.

I do think we focus too much on earth like life. If there was life that thrived in liquid methane instead of water for example, that would open up a lot of overlooked places.
 
Side note: Theoretically, it's possible to terraform Venus even with the technology available today. Though... it would take centuries and be horrendously expensive.

But, given how life evolved and survives even in the deepest parts of the ocean with geothermal vents, I can believe life is on Venus.
 
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TindalosPup

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Ooooo this is fun news

If there is microbial life there it could eventually evolve into plant/animal life (over the course of millions of years, of course). It surviving in a inhospitable gas, too, is even more tantalizing with the possibilities of what kind of life could form.

There's actually caves on our planet that have newly discovered life forms that can live in a toxic sulphuric atmosphere.


This kind of stuff is fascinating to me, I'm always intrigued by new kinds of nature that do/could exist.
 
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