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Sony cuts PS5 production by 4 million units

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TheFarter

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DynamiteCop! said:
People focusing on the wrong things in here, you shouldn't be worried about if you can get one or not, you should be worried about what it's going to cost.

A 50% yield rate? That's abysmal, that's probably the lowest yields of a console in history. Also this will probably net the most unstable console in history which also has the highest failure rate relative to time.
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Console is coming in hot.

Literally.
 
Abriael_GN

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It's funny that people are still reacting like this has any credibility whatsoever.

No. Really. Alleging that they cut down from shipping TWICE as many units as PS4 in the same period to "only" 1.5X.

That's the comedic power of anonymous sources.
 
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Bryank75

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DynamiteCop! said:
People focusing on the wrong things in here, you shouldn't be worried about if you can get one or not, you should be worried about what it's going to cost.

A 50% yield rate? That's abysmal, that's probably the lowest yields of a console in history. Also this will probably net the most unstable console in history which also has the highest failure rate relative to time.
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If you read the article, it seems to imply that it is the rate of production that is impacting the yield. So they are optimizing.
 
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Slings and Arrows

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Either

1) arrogant Sony is back

Or

2) Sony are going to come in cheaper than MS.

You don't aggressively aim for 15 million consoles at launch, in a pandemic, during job uncertainty, unless you know dammed well that your product is coming in more desirable than the competition and by a long stretch.

I've got a £20 bet riding on:

Ps5 digital : £299
Ps5 disc: £349
 
Shambala

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Just send me that early pre order link Sony. I need two of those 11 million units. Amazon is my back up for the second unit 🙏
 
DynamiteCop!

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Boswollocks said:
Either

1) arrogant Sony is back

Or

2) Sony are going to come in cheaper than MS.

You don't aggressively aim for 15 million consoles at launch, in a pandemic, during job uncertainty, unless you know dammed well that your product is coming in more desirable than the competition and by a long stretch.

I've got a £20 bet riding on:

Ps5 digital : £299
Ps5 disc: £349
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It's not supposed to be 15 million at launch... You need to read things, bud.
 
Abriael_GN

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Boswollocks said:
Either

1) arrogant Sony is back

Or

2) Sony are going to come in cheaper than MS.

You don't aggressively aim for 15 million consoles at launch, in a pandemic, during job uncertainty, unless you know dammed well that your product is coming in more desirable than the competition and by a long stretch.

I've got a £20 bet riding on:

Ps5 digital : £299
Ps5 disc: £349
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Or the writer just invented everything because he can claim "anonymous sources" and say pretty much whatever.
 
lingpanda

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DynamiteCop! said:
People focusing on the wrong things in here, you shouldn't be worried about if you can get one or not, you should be worried about what it's going to cost.

A 50% yield rate? That's abysmal, that's probably the lowest yields of a console in history. Also this will probably net the most unstable console in history which also has the highest failure rate relative to time.
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The real story buried in the article. Not sure how I missed that. Yikes!
 
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Mister Wolf said:
Between this and the new AMD/Nvidia GPUs scalpers are about to come up.
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Yeah no doubt. Makes me want to jump early on all of the above. But then there the intended effect.

I was all in on the 3070/3080 but then realized 8 and 10 GB aren't enough for 4k. So I'll either be waiting for the 16/20 GB Ti/Super updates or going with the 3060 Ti (if it's real) and upgrading later. I'd be lying if the opportunity for scalping didn't cross my mind. Lol But it's such a small return for time spent not really worth it. And ruins the market for others.
 
SatansReverence

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DynamiteCop! said:
This is disingenuous, the original model MAY have. There's hypothesized rates but no one actually knows.
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The 360 had very poor yields before launch.

We all know how that ended for the first models of the 360.

But what happened to the spec thread narrative that there was never going to be yield issues with the PS5s overclocked apu? Something something clocks don't affect yields something I work in semiconductors something something.

I'm sure cries of fud and discords are just around the corner.
 
MrFunSocks

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Nah they doubled their production, they're gonna sell 10 million at launch. At least that's what we've been told for a few months.

Whoever could have guessed that yields for such a high clocked GPU could be quite bad?
 
DynamiteCop!

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MrFunSocks said:
Nah they doubled their production, they're gonna sell 10 million at launch. At least that's what we've been told for a few months.

Whoever could have guessed that yields for such a high clocked GPU could be quite bad?
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10 million at launch? Are you people even reading anything that's been said over the last few months? That's a projection running into the next fiscal year...

Yikes, the misinformation is astounding.
 
MrFunSocks

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DynamiteCop! said:
10 million at launch? Are you people even reading anything that's been said over the last few months? That's a projection running into the next fiscal year...

Yikes, the misinformation is astounding.
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No, people were saying that in one of the other threads just the other day. Unless the launch period is the first 6 months of release. I know because I told them they're crazy and that's not happening.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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The Tokyo-based electronics giant in July boosted orders with suppliers in anticipation of heightened demand for gaming in the holiday season and beyond, as people spend more time at home due to the coronavirus. But the company has come up against manufacturing issues, such as production yields as low as 50% for its SOC, which have cut into its ability to produce as many consoles as it wishes, said the people, who asked to remain anonymous because the deliberations aren’t public. Yields have been gradually improving but have yet to reach a stable level, they added.
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I'd boost production too if yields were 50%. Expect those costs to be passed to gamers.

DavidGzz said:
So, can we expect the console to be large and loud now? Idk what this all means. I hope not..
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Large, loud and considering such a bad yield, watch out for launch batches of PS5s. Don't be surprised if there's YLOD kind of thing. Wait till Sony makes more stable consoles.
 
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SatansReverence

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DavidGzz said:
So, can we expect the console to be large and loud now? Idk what this all means. I hope not..
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We already knew the console was comically large to the point sony has been too embarrassed to release console dimensions specifications.
CobraAB said:
So MS is getting better yields on a 52 CU SOC than Sony is getting on a 38 CU SOC.

wow.
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That's gonna happen when you have embedded ram and high clocks.

Public reminder that the XB1 SoC was more expensive than the PS4 SoC even being significantly less powerful.
 
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Dr Bass

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DynamiteCop! said:
People focusing on the wrong things in here, you shouldn't be worried about if you can get one or not, you should be worried about what it's going to cost.

A 50% yield rate? That's abysmal, that's probably the lowest yields of a console in history. Also this will probably net the most unstable console in history which also has the highest failure rate relative to time.
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First off, that's not really how it works (yields being related to overall stability), secondly the Xbox 360 might have a thing or two to say about most unstable console in history.

PS5 is gonna be fine.
 
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Dabaus

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To me this seems like a marketing tactic to make sure preorder hype is at a fever pitch when they open up and is a sure fire way make these things fly off the shelves. It’s extremely effective tactic. I just hope we’re not looking at a 360 RRod death part 2 here.
 
SlimySnake

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50% yield issues is terrible. good luck to everyone here who wanted a ps5 at launch.

not sure what they are smoking with the $399 price tag, if the yields are that low, everything becomes that much more expensive. sony is still paying for those chips.
 
StreetsofBeige

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Aguero9320 said:
That yield rate is definitely concerning... Maybe missing out on an early pre order will turn out a blessing!
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When 360 and PS3 got hit with RRoD and YLoD I think the vast majority of them got ironed out when each company issued new model numbers a year or so later.

No guarantee launch PS5's will be borked, but manufacturing typically irons out issues fast. So if it turns out they are unstable, just wait a year. Gamers always post on message boards when new model numbers come out, so you won't miss a beat. Once you know the new models, just look for those at the store.

Some web retailers might even post the revised model numbers for you.

If any gamer can't wait, then get your console at Costco. Game consoles have indefinite return policy as they aren't treated as electronics (90 days). So if console bricking is a major concern, then just grab it at Costco. That's what I'm doing even if it means waiting a bit as they don't get stock as great as Amazon or Best Buy since Costco always has their odd custom bundle. So you might have to suck up paying extra for a forced second controller or pack in game you don't want. But at least the most major issue (bricking) is a non issue. Just refund it 3 years later.
 
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The Hate said:
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Greeno

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SlimySnake said:
50% yield issues is terrible. good luck to everyone here who wanted a ps5 at launch.

not sure what they are smoking with the $399 price tag, if the yields are that low, everything becomes that much more expensive. sony is still paying for those chips.
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They are not saying that the PS5DE will cost 399, they are saying that is it is the lowest they see it going for.
 
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DavidGzz

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StreetsofBeige said:
Large, loud and considering such a bad yield, watch out for launch batches of PS5s. Don't be surprised if there's YLOD kind of thing. Wait till Sony makes more stable consoles.
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But, my precious Demon's Souls.....hope it misses launch, I'll have plenty to play for a while after this holiday.
 
CatLady

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Dabaus said:
To me this seems like a marketing tactic to make sure preorder hype is at a fever pitch when they open up and is a sure fire way make these things fly off the shelves. It’s extremely effective tactic. I just hope we’re not looking at a 360 RRod death part 2 here.
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Ehh, I gotta say, I don't think having to cut production due to 50% of your chips failing is really a great marketing tactic.

Glad I wasn't planning to get a PS5 because I sure as hell wouldn't' be getting one now.
 
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