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[Craig of War]

Jim Ryan Confirmed PS5 Won't Have Compatibility With PS3 and Older Games

In a Japanese interview with Famitsu, SIE CEO Jim Ryan confirmed that PS5 won't have backwards compatibility with PS3 and older games.

www.siliconera.com

"Famitsu: We were also surprised when we heard that it will have 99% compatibility with PS4 titles. By the way, will there be compatibility with PS1, PS2, and PS3 titles?
Jim Ryan: We keep in mind the engineering specialized for the PS5, as we produced the device. In the midst of that, the PS4 already has 100 million players; we thought they ought to want to play PS4 titles on the PS5 as well indeed, so we included compatibility with the PS4. While implementing that, we also focused our efforts on taking in the high-speed SSD and the new controller DualSense at the same time. So, unfortunately, we couldn’t reach the implementation of such compatibilities."

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Jim Ryan is gonna go down in history this gen.

 

[Tripolygon]

Don't believe him. He is lying.

 

[AV]

Everyone knew already, but it's nice to have it in writing.

Still, you'll be able to buy the PS2 GTA trilogy for $20, again, probably.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

This is not surprising, we knew this.

 

[Craig of War]

This is not surprising, we knew this.

Yeah but before it was not confirmed but now we have it from the man himself.

 

[ReBurn]

I'm sure someone is outraged over this.

 

[MaulerX]

Not surprised by this in the slightest. It's something they would have bragged about a long time ago if it were true.

 

[The_Mike]

Don't worry though, there'll probably be plenty of remasters you can pay 80 euro for.

 

[Yoboman]

I just don't get this from a business perspective. That's thousands of titles they could be getting royalties from

 

[Adam_802]

Lol cmon Sony, your poor fans have suffered enough the last 24 hours

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Don't worry though, there'll probably be plenty of remasters you can pay 80 euro for.

I'd pay good money for AAA MGS remasters/remakes.

 

[mckmas8808]

That sucks. PS Now to the rescue?

 

[LordCBH]

Fuck you Jim. Absolutely no reason it can’t play PS1 and 2 titles other than sheer fucking incompetence.

 

[The_Mike]

I'd pay good money for AAA MGS remasters/remakes.

No wonder they felt like they could charge 80 bucks for games when people don't hesitate to buy them no matter the cost.

 

[MrFunSocks]

I love how they act like there aren’t PS1 and 2 emulators literally running the phones in peoples pockets, that it’s something that would take them years of dev work to get working.

PR never lies though, right guys?

 

[DGrayson]

I'm fine with this as long as all consoles support BC going forward from ps4 as a starting point

 

[stitch1]

At the start of last gen I was all about the PS4. Now you couldn't give me a PS5. They will probably sell like crazy but I am just done with Sony.

 

[ExpandKong]

I'm sure someone is outraged over this.

I mean I'd prefer to not have to keep my PS3 and PS2 out taking up space to play those games again when I get the itch but I wouldn't say I'm outraged. It's just another reason to not buy one right away.

 

[SNG32]

Get a pc or a laptop and you’ll be able to ps1, ps2, ps3, and 65 percent of ps4 and ps5 titles.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Sucks but expected.

 

[Keihart]

I mean, yeah, no shit Sherlock. The people hoping were really setting themselves for disappointment.

On the other hand, fuck Jim Ryan, because you know, i have to hate someone for all this turds lately and to be honest he always looked sketchy to me.

 

[Zoro7]

I mean I'd prefer to not have to keep my PS3 and PS2 out taking up space to play those games again when I get the itch but I wouldn't say I'm outraged. It's just another reason to not buy one right away.

How often do you use them?

 

[UnNamed]

Every time Jim Ryan speaks, PS5's preorders drops by 5%. Please stop, Jim.

 

[Nikana]

Expected but at this point it seems like a no brainer. Emulation would be cheap to create especially for ps1 and 2. Why not get the free PR?

 

[jshackles]

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Every time Jim Ryan speaks, PS5's preorders drops by 5%. Please stop, Jim.

Drop by 5%?

They're all gone. Where have you been?

 

[#Phonepunk#]

so it's the same as PS4 then? ok.

i don't know why people think a new system should play games from a console that is 14 years older. bizarre.

 

[quest]

I'm sure someone is outraged over this.

Considering a lot of us have digital PS1 games hell yes. They have a mature PS1 emulator for us who purchased PS1 games off their store.

 

[TheMan]

were people really expecting that? I mean there were rumors but that never seemed very realistic

 

[ReBurn]

so it's the same as PS4 then? ok.

i don't know why people think a new system should play games from a console that is 14 years older. bizarre.

To be fair there is one that plays hundreds of games from those older consoles and it's a nice feature. A lot of old games deserve to live on. But in this case Sony never promised to try to make it happen anyway.

 

[lifa-cobex]

If a new PS4 system with complete backwards comparability was announced next week.

I would buy it over before a PS5.

 

[Humdinger]

Not surprised. PS4 BC is good. I was never much of a PS1/2/3 guy anyhow.

 

[Clear]

Expected but at this point it seems like a no brainer. Emulation would be cheap to create especially for ps1 and 2. Why not get the free PR?

Because validating every piece of ancient software works without issue is a huge resource drain, as would be clearing and re-licensing games from a time when digital distribution basically didn't exist.

It wouldn't be cheap or easy and the return on investment minimal, as the primary beneficiaries would be after-market resellers and not the creators or publishers of said titles.

 

[quest]

Because validating every piece of ancient software works without issue is a huge resource drain, as would be clearing and re-licensing games from a time when digital distribution basically didn't exist.

It wouldn't be cheap or easy and the return on investment minimal, as the primary beneficiaries would be after-market resellers and not the creators or publishers of said titles.

At the very least they could do the games they sold digitally in their store many they published.

It is funny Microsoft is making an effort to do those things while not perfect is an attempt.

 

[LordCBH]

Jim “Why would you want to play that?” Ryan

 

[splattered]

But what about the large letter "P" in Cerny's tech talk that had all that room for PS1, 2 and 3? Right guys?

 

[Clear]

At the very least they could do the games they sold digitally in their store many they published.

It is funny Microsoft is making an effort to do those things while not perfect is an attempt.

Look at the number of OG Xbox titles supported as opposed to 360 ones, the further back in time you go although the hardware gets easier technically to emulate, the worse it gets for rights clearances.

Homebrew devs aren't going to get sued/class actioned for failing to secure rights or delivering software that is buggy or broken, big companies will. Its really that simple.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Any backwards comparability with PS3, PS2 and PS1 was going to be difficult. I'm happy with PS4 backwards compatibility.

Lol cmon Sony, your poor fans have suffered enough the last 24 hours

I see you've been trolling non-stop in threads. Shocking post history.
You have nothing to add to the discussion so why comment?

reported

 

[Sebastian Suola]

Jim “Why would you want to play that?” Ryan

Yep. He clearly doesn't appreciate the legacy of PS1 and PS2. Imagine if the CEO of Disney thought the same about the old Disney classics and wouldn't want to sell them anymore. Games are still not appreciated on the same level as movies for example. Every old game looks and plays "dated" supposedly. Bullshit.

 

[ReBurn]

I just don't get this from a business perspective. That's thousands of titles they could be getting royalties from

And paying royalties for. Game licensing is too complicated.

 

[Umbral]

That sucks. PS Now to the rescue?

PSNow can...

Get that laggy, artifact laden crap outta here!

 

[jshackles]

Look at the number of OG Xbox titles supported as opposed to 360 ones, the further back in time you go although the hardware gets easier technically to emulate, the worse it gets for rights clearances.

The OG Xbox backwards compatibility program was only active for less than a year, and was only ever used for two batches of titles released.

Meanwhile the 360 BC program had new releases almost every week between 2015 and 2019.

 

[Yoboman]

And paying royalties for. Game licensing is too complicated.

Then at least do a "top 100" for each platform or something. I dont care if I can't play FIFA 2001 but I would like to play MGS2

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Every time Jim Ryan speaks, PS5's preorders drops by 5%. Please stop, Jim.

Dude, PS5 is sold out.

What you on about? or is it just another troll post?

 

[Nikana]

Because validating every piece of ancient software works without issue is a huge resource drain, as would be clearing and re-licensing games from a time when digital distribution basically didn't exist.

It wouldn't be cheap or easy and the return on investment minimal, as the primary beneficiaries would be after-market resellers and not the creators or publishers of said titles.

They already did it for PS Now. Can't be much more difficult than that. Even if it's not every game there's no reason they can't get the most popular.

 

[JLB]

ps5 bc with ps1-3 confirmed.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is he lying, is he telling the truth, which narrative is at play?

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

For PS5 pro then?

 

[Yoboman]

I read PS2 games on PSNow can be downloaded and played natively on PS4. Has anybody tried this?