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[Slings and Arrows]

If any of us felt shafted, we would have compromised to limited FOV, barely 30fps, and low rez textures. We haven't, no matter how much you try to keep pushing some weird agenda, or having self pride/ego issues.

Keep fighting the war though bro. You single handedly got this! Maybe you'll convince one of us.... One day.....

Honestly pal, you're a fucking idiot.

Ive no idea why you've made this story up in your head that I'm sat at home crying over pictures of Jim Ryan and getting angry at PC. I'm not. I never would.

PC gamers are getting shafted. But hey, as a 15 Yr old you wouldn't know any different.

If you want to read my posts and just make shit up then go right ahead, but don't reply to me with your mentalist theories of paranoia.

Maybe this is the problem? The PCMR fanboys are no longer the elite group of gaming, as your platform has been overtaken by a majority of tight fisted berks which have skewed the market?

Either way I don't give a shit. Keep your idiocy away from me until you drop this woah-is-me act. The world isn't out to get you. Some of us just like to play games

 

[Phrixotrichus]

So, exactly how insecure does one have to be to get angry over other people`s taste in video games?

 

[Shmunter]

My iPad Pro is more powerful than most pc’s. iPad master race!

 

[Self]

Just my two cents. PC's were pushing the game industrie back in the days. Think Doom, Half Life etc. But nowerdays there are just console ports with Higher Res, frames or RT.
The magic is gone, hence the bewilderment over the insane prices.

It may just be my ignorance, but I don't think there are any PC games that people want on console. But the port begging of PC people is sometimes hilarious. "Demon Souls, God of War!" It will come, hahaha.
Sounds desperate to me.

But I respect people who just want to play their games in best shape and have the money. I've spent thousands of dollars for my audio equipment and my girlfriend doesn't even hear a difference. So well, that's it. Have fun guys.

 

[Lupin3]

What an intelligent thread.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Honestly pal, you're a fucking idiot.

Ive no idea why you've made this story up in your head that I'm sat at home crying over pictures of Jim Ryan and getting angry at PC. I'm not. I never would.

PC gamers are getting shafted. But hey, as a 15 Yr old you wouldn't know any different.

If you want to read my posts and just make shit up then go right ahead, but don't reply to me with your mentalist theories of paranoia.

Maybe this is the problem? The PCMR fanboys are no longer the elite group of gaming, as your platform has been overtaken by a majority of tight fisted berks which have skewed the market?

Either way I don't give a shit. Keep your idiocy away from me until you drop this woah-is-me act. The world isn't out to get you. Some of us just like to play games

If you weren't so triggered you'd realize PC gamers aren't in need of games. There's so many to play already, and most of us have a huge backlog to clear.

Not just the jank and free2play games you claim.

I'm not sure if you are 15 years old, but if you been playing as long as I have, you'd realize PC gamers haven't had a drought or got shafted as you claim. Then again you are calling people retarded, without looking in the mirror. YMMV

 

[TonyK]

In fact, due to PC lack of optimization, you need a 3090 to run those games.

 

[Kenpachii]

There are 1,5 billion pc gamers.
There are over 90 million steam users.

Looking at steam and coming to the conclusion that that's all PC gamers play is laughable at best.

I played in the last month.
- guild wars 2
- anno 1800
- ac odyssey
- league of legends
- dota
- smite
- heroes of the storm
- wow classic
- cemu zelda breath of the wild
- cemu mario odyssey
- cemu luigi mansion 3
- ragnarok

non of them are played on steam.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

I'll wait for the eventual remaster version of Ghost before I play it..... on PC.

 

[GreatnessRD]

Haven't gone anywhere. Currently playing Dragons Dogma at 4K 120hz with modded 6K AI upscaled textures.
Being a PC master was always about customization options.

So you're saying my 1060 3GB has a chance?

 

[anothertech]

Has high end gaming pc

Also enjoys great games, whether they be A, AA, AAA, ZZ, 69, ETC

Details please. Copius details ...

 

[Vick]

Imagine unironically using Metacritic user reviews to say a game is good lol.

Imagine having to rely on that when dealing with people like you & friends constantly posting things like this:

Looks like an interactive movie. Guess we like different things.

And this is talking about Spider-Man mind you.. you know, the combat heavy, traversal based free-roam?

Go have a look at the actual user reviews. Go on. They're 99% fanboys with either only 1 review - GOT @ 10/10, 2 reviews - GOT @ 10 and TLOU @ 0, or just full of PS4 exclusive 10s and XB1 exclusive 0s.

Metacritic user scores are a dumpster fire.

Of course they are! And actual reviews are all paid/shills so can’t be trusted, youtubers reviews are not reliable because they’re nobodies, players reviews are all just fanboyism, only opinions that matter are from people on other systems who never touched the thing..
Get out of my fucking face, please.

 

[sid2vicious]

Is this another one of those threads where Bryank75 goes on a rant?

"Back in my boomer days I used to own a IBM 5150, when pc gaming was pure! Then I upgraded to windows and was blown away by minesweeper, solitaire, some adventure game in a castle with doors and text where you chose the answer and MS paint. Yes that was when pc gaming was at its best! Those graphics could never match my Playstation exclusives though, PC gaming hasn't evolved in 30 years and it still sucks, nothing changed, looks like mobile! I know I'm right cause said so, research are for nerds, I'm not out of touch, just ask Jim Ryan! PS master race!"

I wish I was making this stuff up...

 

[DJT123]

Exactly this. The last couple of days have been pathetic here with them shitting on the PS5 and XSX non stop but the truth is they have no games that take advantage of their overpriced hardware so they go around laughing at console exclusives. "Lol we already have that on PC it's called ultra settings lol lol imagine paying for that lel".

So insecure in their superiority complex.

It's because consoles are now largely a joke- we can no longer even pretend to be objective. The only games that won't be taking advantage of overpriced hardware will be those running on your console .

 

[MrFunSocks]

Imagine having to rely on that when dealing with people like you & friends constantly posting things like this:



And this is talking about Spider-Man mind you.. you know, the combat heavy, traversal based free-roam?


Of course they are! And actual reviews are all paid/shills so can’t be trusted, youtubers reviews are not reliable because they’re nobodies, players reviews are all just fanboyism, only opinions that matter are from people on other systems who never touched the thing..
Get out of my fucking face, please.

I was literally telling you to go and look at the user reviews because I sure as shit did and out of the top 20 or so about 18 of them fit into the categories I listed lol.

Stop acting like anything that's not "OMG PRAISE SONY!!!!!" is an attack on you personally.

 

[Nhranaghacon]

PC owners have been shafted worse over the last couple of years than I've ever seen before. I can't remember exactly but I remember PC gaming hitting a funk about 20 years ago and then it came back big.

Now I feel sorry for them because they're being sold out. Why make games for PC when companies can sell them old shit, free to play jank and the odd token game.

Though the PC is the best place for VR at the moment, so swings and roundabouts I suppose

About 20 years ago - the 1ghz mark became standard, games like CS and Battlefield became mainstream in the PC market and the discrete AGP GPU finally became standardized as well.

So I don't think you're correct in your timing, PC gaming stagnated when they originally came out with SLI and it was unoptimized.

Now SLI is EXTREMELY optimized across nearly all new games, this however is very underreported, but very worth the investment if you consider a solid 40% (or 168% performance increase with 2 cards in sli) boost per extra card at utlra settings is worth the money.

Here are the latest SLI performance Benchmarks with just 1 extra card at 4k

If you happened to notice, SLI benchmarks became almost non existent for a long period of time but now they are very relevant as they offer insane performance boosts but it's still not being reported adequately. Particularly considering I saw some mobo's sporting the option to SLI 6 cards a few years ago, I cannot find the benchmarks and couldn't then either.

Would like to see how the 3080 stacks up against 4 2080TI in SLI. and then of course 4 3080 in SLI.

Why this narrative has been lost across vast amount's of gaming discussion is beyond me.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

About 20 years ago - the 1ghz mark became standard, games like CS and Battlefield became mainstream in the PC market and the discrete AGP GPU finally became standardized as well.

So I don't think you're correct in your timing, PC gaming stagnated when they originally came out with SLI and it was unoptimized.

Now SLI is EXTREMELY optimized across nearly all new games, this however is very underreported, but very worth the investment if you consider a solid 40% (or 168% performance increase with 2 cards in sli) boost per extra card at utlra settings is worth the money.

Here are the latest SLI performance Benchmarks with just 1 extra card at 4k

If you happened to notice, SLI benchmarks became almost non existent for a long period of time but now they are very relevant as they offer insane performance boosts but it's still not being reported adequately. Particularly considering I saw some mobo's sporting the option to SLI 6 cards a few years ago, I cannot find the benchmarks and couldn't then either.

Would like to see how the 3080 stacks up against 4 2080TI in SLI. and then of course 4 3080 in SLI.

Why this narrative has been lost across vast amount's of gaming discussion is beyond me.

My timing might be off, i just remember dipping in to PC when the DC died, but before the XBOX launched. I got Blade runner and Fallout (and some other games) with my first PC. Glorious games were glorious.

I think it stagnated after that, because i remember reading forum posts of how PC gamers were being left behind (i didn't notice, i was playing office 24/7 on a private server), then Crysis came out and jump started the PC market a bit.

I do miss the days when PC was chock full of RTS games. As soon as C&C started to flop around RA3, i knew it was going south from there.

Interesting about the SLI though, i've only ever seen little bits and bats as i haven't PC gamed with a serious rig for a long time. I wonder if the discussion is low key because 1) most people don't understand it and 2) it would damage card companies. Being able to pick up 4 1080TI's for cheap as chips that gives amazing performance would be amazing. Then i think, why can't i just buy two motherboards and CPU's and make them work together? Just daisy chaining a shit load of old, cheap PC's

 

[Vick]

I was literally telling you to go and look at the user reviews because I sure as shit did and out of the top 20 or so about 18 of them fit into the categories I listed lol.

And what i should post then? Actual reviews? Youtubers? Players impressions?
I’m telling you it’s one of the best games of all time, i started playing in the early 90’s, owned every Nintendo console up until the WiiU, owned every Xbox up until the One, played thousands of games but most importantly, i own a PC, LOVE PC gaming for an infinite number of reasons.. yet i’m unreliable and in bad faith.

And Metacritic user score is a relatively good indication actually, because if a PS exclusive, which by default will get tons of 0’s from Xbox players, Nintendo players, PC players and in this case lots of SJW, gets an overall higher than 9, you can bet your ass the game rocks.

Stop acting like anything that's not "OMG PRAISE SONY!!!!!" is an attack on you personally.

Sure, that’s what is. It’s not people like you making impossible having objective discussions about games on a gaming Forum..

 

[GymWolf]

Hades alone is better than 90% of triple A games that are gonna come out this year.

Silly topic from silly people.

 

[Nhranaghacon]

My timing might be off, i just remember dipping in to PC when the DC died, but before the XBOX launched. I got Blade runner and Fallout (and some other games) with my first PC. Glorious games were glorious.

I think it stagnated after that, because i remember reading forum posts of how PC gamers were being left behind (i didn't notice, i was playing office 24/7 on a private server), then Crysis came out and jump started the PC market a bit.

I do miss the days when PC was chock full of RTS games. As soon as C&C started to flop around RA3, i knew it was going south from there.

Interesting about the SLI though, i've only ever seen little bits and bats as i haven't PC gamed with a serious rig for a long time. I wonder if the discussion is low key because 1) most people don't understand it and 2) it would damage card companies. Being able to pick up 4 1080TI's for cheap as chips that gives amazing performance would be amazing. Then i think, why can't i just buy two motherboards and CPU's and make them work together? Just daisy chaining a shit load of old, cheap PC's

Oh we definitely stagnated during the xbox 360 era, and sure the xbox era where we had some franchises not make their way to PC that would have otherwise sucked for PC gaming too, but that's changing a lot now.


Fact is though, back then the scene for multiplayer was insane on PC, and console gaming has only proved to hurt MP on the PC end of things if you consider 200 player Multiplayer matches were common (Counter Strike Regularly featured 90 vs 90) and now large community driven MP matches are only common on cross gen games that offer freaking battle royal.

Otherwise you're better off sticking to PC centric non cross platform games.

What' was old (massive MP battles) is new again on consoles but in respect to massive multiplayer cross platform games now - I think consoles have actually stunted growth in the multiplayer PC arena.

As far as SLI goes, was something that really excited the gaming community but went dead silent. And I considered it personally, bad journalism not to include SLI benchmark results - even if the games were not optimized for SLI.

Because they sure as heck are now and look at what's happened - an across the board 45fps increase with just 1 extra card in sli let alone 3 - that news has completely flown under the radar.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Oh we definitely stagnated during the xbox 360 era, and sure the xbox era where we had some franchises not make their way to PC that would have otherwise sucked for PC gaming too, but that's changing a lot now.


Fact is though, back then the scene for multiplayer was insane on PC, and console gaming has only proved to hurt MP on the PC end of things if you consider 200 player Multiplayer matches were common (Counter Strike Regularly featured 90 vs 90) and now large community driven MP matches are only common on cross gen games that offer freaking battle royal.

Otherwise you're better off sticking to PC centric non cross platform games.

What' was old (massive MP battles) is new again on consoles but in respect to massive multiplayer cross platform games now - I think consoles have actually stunted growth in the multiplayer PC arena.

As far as SLI goes, was something that really excited the gaming community but went dead silent. And I considered it personally, bad journalism not to include SLI benchmark results - even if the games were not optimized for SLI.

Because they sure as heck are now and look at what's happened - that news has completely flown under the radar.

I agree, consolisation of the PC space has stagnated it, combined with what is popular nowadays vs back then and the simplification of games across the board has led to some shitty times indeed.

It's why i hold out hope for VR, it has all the makings of an old school platform; New, unique experience, high-end requirements, requires some knowledge to set up etc.

I'll look in to SLI, i may buy some old cards and try it out

 

[Nhranaghacon]

I agree, consolisation of the PC space has stagnated it, combined with what is popular nowadays vs back then and the simplification of games across the board has led to some shitty times indeed.

It's why i hold out hope for VR, it has all the makings of an old school platform; New, unique experience, high-end requirements, requires some knowledge to set up etc.

I'll look in to SLI, i may buy some old cards and try it out

I haven't seen result's for 1080 that are current, but the 2080ti in SLI is killing it across what seems like every single game tested. Shame it's gone unreported.

They certainly weren't reporting it when the 1080, unoptimized only gave 1 or 2 extra frames - but that refusal to keep SLI benchmark's current and part of the review cycle has certainly hurt the PC gaming narrative and I personally, detest all outlet's that refuse to keep hammering away at SLI reviews considering this 2080TI SLI performance is massive and has seemingly come out of no where.

 

[Vaelka]

I just picked up Doom Eternal again on PC after having played it on PS4, just reminded me of how much smoother and more fun it is on PC and how much better a properly optimized game on PC runs.
I don't even have a monster PC and I still hang around 140+ fps on Ultra Nightmare settings and even higher in smaller areas.

 

[MrFunSocks]

And what i should post then? Actual reviews? Youtubers? Players impressions?
I’m telling you it’s one of the best games of all time, i started playing in the early 90’s, owned every Nintendo console up until the WiiU, owned every Xbox up until the One, played thousands of games but most importantly, i own a PC, LOVE PC gaming for an infinite number of reasons.. yet i’m unreliable and in bad faith.

And Metacritic user score is a relatively good indication actually, because if a PS exclusive, which by default will get tons of 0’s from Xbox players, Nintendo players, PC players and in this case lots of SJW, gets an overall higher than 9, you can bet your ass the game rocks.


Sure, that’s what is. It’s not people like you making impossible having objective discussions about games on a gaming Forum..

Metacritic user score is never a good indication. Never. For the reasons I listed. Anyone is free to go look at the reviews and see why.

 

[M1chl]

Damn Sea of Thieves is that high, without gamepass, that's impressive.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Just my two cents. PC's were pushing the game industrie back in the days. Think Doom, Half Life etc. But nowerdays there are just console ports with Higher Res, frames or RT.
The magic is gone, hence the bewilderment over the insane prices.

It may just be my ignorance, but I don't think there are any PC games that people want on console. But the port begging of PC people is sometimes hilarious. "Demon Souls, God of War!" It will come, hahaha.
Sounds desperate to me.

But I respect people who just want to play their games in best shape and have the money. I've spent thousands of dollars for my audio equipment and my girlfriend doesn't even hear a difference. So well, that's it. Have fun guys.

So much this. Once upon a time it was about console gamers looking and drooling over HL² and Doom³, now it's PC gamers crying for PC port of PlayStation exclusives only to need ridiculously expensive hardware to run them at a higher framerate.

Been thinking about upgrading from my 970 for years now but can never bring myself to do so. For what? The same games with higher framerate? For 1.000+ EUR? And if I wanted propper HDR it takes another 2.000 EUR for an acutal good PC HDR monitor. There is no perspective any more. The whole PC master race has become a joke for who is willing to burn most money for overpriced hardware.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

Today I will play on FA Forever, community driven lobby for Supreme Commander Forged Alliance, then some Squad and finally two or more games in CSGO.

Playing on PC is cool, I love it.

 

[TriSuit666]

We're waiting for the garbage tier console opinions to sit down and stay in their sub-900p lane.

Also, playing Persona 5 in 4k is aces. Aces.

Drink those consoleo tears all day, bub.

 

[Alphagear]

That sounds about right I was wrong.

580 is basically an overclocked 480.

1060 did have an edge on 580 at launch but drivers updates have put 580 ahead of 1060.

 

[DJT123]

So much this. Once upon a time it was about console gamers looking and drooling over HL² and Doom³, now it's PC gamers crying for PC port of PlayStation exclusives only to need ridiculously expensive hardware to run them at a higher framerate.

Been thinking about upgrading from my 970 for years now but can never bring myself to do so. For what? The same games with higher framerate? For 1.000+ EUR? And if I wanted propper HDR it takes another 2.000 EUR for an acutal good PC HDR monitor. There is no perspective any more. The whole PC master race has become a joke for who is willing to burn most money for overpriced hardware.

Not really. I'd say a tiny fraction of PC Gamers genuinely care about those games. (HZD not even at 1000-000 yet, a genuinely great game like Witcher 3 will always be like 20X that). They just understand those games belong on a PC, not a budget box.

 

[Vick]

Not really. I'd say a tiny fraction of PC Gamers genuinely care about those games.

What are “those games”, actually? Honest question.

You don’t care for multiplayer tps and fps, open worlds, platformers, actions, racing games, etc?

I know I don't. They just understand those games belong on a PC, not a budget box.

They would never exist in the first place since they’re made to sell said box.

 

[DJT123]

What are “those games”, actually? Honest question.

You don’t care for multiplayer tps and fps, open worlds, platformers, actions, racing games, etc?


They would never exist in the first place since they’re made to sell said box.

Cinematic, linear story based 3rd person action games. Imo, they're not a good fit for exclusivity because they lack replayability.

I'm extremely interested in games like Persona 5 and Bloodborne, and still managed to play the former on my PC because of the PS3 version.

 

[DJT123]

580 is basically an overclocked 480.

1060 did have an edge on 580 at launch but drivers updates have put 580 ahead of 1060.

RX 480 is a truly monstrous card even to this day considering when it was released.

 

[teezzy]

But I respect people who just want to play their games in best shape and have the money. I've spent thousands of dollars for my audio equipment and my girlfriend doesn't even hear a difference. So well, that's it. Have fun guys.

As someone who once invested over a grand into a Technics turntable, vintage speakers, and a Nagaoka MP-110 cartridge - you hit the appeal of PC gaming right on the head for me.

Any hobby which allows you to invest into, and fine-tune, your gear for your own niche tastes to the tee is one which will forever appeal to me more than anything else, and that's exactly what PC allows you to do with gaming. Select the exact case you want, the CPU, GPU, MOBO, PSU, SSD, HDD, how much RAM, what kinda RAM, which monitor, how many monitors, what kind of speakers, what kind of audio interface, what kind of keyboard, what kind of mouse, what kind of microphone, what kind of headphones, what kind of gamepad(s), what kind of fight stick, etc. There are few things you can go hog wild with customization to the point you can with a PC, then consider all the things a PC can do apart from its primary gaming capabilities: music/video production, emulation, web browsing, coding, etc.

Console fans who seem to have a hate-boner for the PCMR crowd seem to overlook that this customization is exactly why people are willing to spend what we are on our rigs. Yeah sure, at the end of the day, we're both playing Red Dead Redemption 2, but one of us is able to play it exactly how we want to while the other person has such little control that they have to pay extra just to go online.

 

[Vick]

Cinematic, linear story based 3rd person action games.

So only The Order: 1886 then, a game which was only slightly more linear than the first Gears of War, less linear and more replayable than Max Payne 3 and awfully received anyway. That was six years ago, what about the rest?

You have to understand that the whole “cinematic”, “interactive movie” narrative is just straight and pure nonsense you’ll never hear from multiplatform gamers and only spouted by fanboys, by saying that games like God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man or Infamous, the third person games, are “cinematic” you are basically only saying they look amazing because of their production values (yet, at the same time, graphics on consoles sucks, go figure).
The same was said for two years on Horizon: Zero Dawn.. it’s on PC now, go play it. Is it an “interactive movie”?

Imo, they're not a good fit for exclusivity because they lack replayability.

Totally agree, that’s why after The Order later TPS like U4 were wide open, sandbox gameplay, and came with multiplayer modes.

Nintendo titles will obviously never appear on any rival format so apart from Days Gone & Kingdom Hearts I'd assume all the remaining are on the PC. 2020 is likely no different as will 2021.

Those are are still 7 out of 20 dude.

 

[teezzy]

The features of the PC itself are the real exclusives, the games are just there to come along for the ride.

 

[Orta]

PC gaming is closer to mobile gaming these days.

Filled with mobile games and fortnite derivatives and waiting for years for the next CDPR game or a port from consoles.

Best selling US/EU console games of 2019:

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2019
2. NBA 2K20
3. Madden NFL 20
4. Borderlands 3
5. Mortal Kombat 11
6. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
7. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
8. Kingdom Hearts III
9. Tom Clancy’s The Division 2
10. Mario Kart 8
11. Grand Theft Auto V
12. Red Dead Redemption II
13. Minecraft
14. FIFA 20
15. Anthem
16. Pokemon Sword
17. Resident Evil 2 2019
18. Luigi’s Mansion 3
19. Days Gone
20. New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe

Nintendo titles will obviously never appear on any rival format so apart from Days Gone & Kingdom Hearts I'd assume all the remaining are on the PC. 2020 is likely no different as will 2021.

 

[DJT123]

So only The Order: 1886 then, a game which was only slightly more linear than the first Gears of War, less linear and more replayable than Max Payne 3 and awfully received anyway. That was six years ago, what about the rest?

You have to understand that the whole “cinematic”, “interactive movie” narrative is just straight and pure nonsense you’ll never hear from multiplatform gamers and only spouted by fanboys, by saying that games like God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man or Infamous, the third person games, are “cinematic” you are basically only saying they look amazing because of their production values (yet, at the same time, graphics on consoles sucks, go figure).
The same was said for two years on Horizon: Zero Dawn.. it’s on PC now, go play it. Is it an “interactive movie”?


Totally agree, that’s why after The Order later TPS like U4 where wide open, sandbox gameplay, and came with multiplayer modes.

That's fair. The likes of HZD, Spiderman and GOT It shouldn't be included in the "interactive movie" narrative. I'm just saying that If I get considered a port beggar, it will be for something like Persona 6 or if Elden Ring was a Sony exclusive.

 

[Jokerevo]

PC has always will have the best tech but they've never had a single exclusive to actually harness all those flops. Now they're praying all the Sony games go there for some reason...

Enjoy this gen, the next 2 gens will see the PC become obsolete. I say this as a PC owner who bought a 2080ti and realised that no games actually take advantage of it beyond frames. That even minecraft rtx cannot run properly at 4k 60fps because not of a lack of power but because of the nature of PC itself, all these fucking configs are so diverse that it's impossible to optimise any game.

 

[Kadayi]

PC gaming is closer to mobile gaming these days.

Filled with mobile games and fortnite derivatives and waiting for years for the next CDPR game or a port from consoles.

LOL One Note you really a fucking joke of a poster. PC offers far more choice than any of the consoles in terms of the sheer variety of games you can play. People like you are so myopic as to what the diversity of the medium is it's kind of laughable how completely clueless you actually are. This idea that PC gamers are somehow Port beggers is also kind of hilarious as well. When you're talking to a crowd who will probably drop a couple of grand on hardware every few years, do you honestly think that buying a console is somehow a challenge? Truth is if an exclusive title eventually cames to PC that's great, but lack of games is not an issue on PC, having the time to play everything you already own is. Personally I own around about 900 games across all the stores with around about 44% completed and compared to some people I know that's a modest gaming collection. I'm never in the situation of 'What do I play next? '

 

[DJT123]

The features of the PC itself are the real exclusives, the games are just there to come along for the ride.

Playing games EXCLUSIVELY on PC is what it's about.

 

[Senua]

Playing games EXCLUSIVELY on PC is what it's about.

Indeed, also PC has fuck loads of games/genres that just aren't on consoles which I love, but seems many here don't even know/care about in the slightest.

 

[DJT123]

PC has always will have the best tech but they've never had a single exclusive to actually harness all those flops. Now they're praying all the Sony games go there for some reason...

Enjoy this gen, the next 2 gens will see the PC become obsolete. I say this as a PC owner who bought a 2080ti and realised that no games actually take advantage of it beyond frames. That even minecraft rtx cannot run properly at 4k 60fps because not of a lack of power but because of the nature of PC itself, all these fucking configs are so diverse that it's impossible to optimise any game.

I PROMISE you. Streaming will make consoles obsolete a long time before everyone has stopped building themselves a PC.

 

[DJT123]

Indeed, also PC has fuck loads of games/genres that just aren't on consoles which I love, but seems many here don't even know/care about in the slightest.

Just the game in your avatar alone, modded to the nines, is better than ANY RPG I can think of on console.

 

[Vick]

That's fair. The likes of HZD, Spiderman and GOT It shouldn't be included in the "interactive movie" narrative. I'm just saying that If I get considered a port beggar, it will be for something like Persona 6 or if Elden Ring was a Sony exclusive.

I think you forgot Days Gone and Infamous and appreciate the honesty, but not even rest should, sorry. In no way, shape or form.
The Last of Us is the closest i guess, but is still a survival TPS not very different from Evil Within, and the second one is actually a pretty fucking massive game (i don’t like it and haven’t even finished it anyway), Uncharted games like Lost Legacy are sandbox TPS in which you even drive vehicles and have competitive and co-operative multiplayer modes and if they’re “interactive movies” the same should be said for Gears 5.
But most of all God of War, which is an Action Adventure RPG and if that is an “interactive movie”, the same should be said for Jedi: Fallen Order for instace. That one is universally loved by PC players last i checked even being much more limited than GoW in every single aspect, with a 10th of it’s combat and RPG elements (and is probably the more “woke” game i’ve played this gen, but that’s another matter and i still liked it).

P.S. There is an “Edit” button, on the lower right of your messages.

 

[TriSuit666]

As someone who once invested over a grand into a Technics turntable, vintage speakers, and a Nagaoka MP-110 cartridge - you hit the appeal of PC gaming right on the head for me.

And of course, if you still own that turntable, depending on the model, it's actually INCREASED in value.

 

[Manstructiclops]

11% of steam users have the 1060 from the latest figures in August.

That is not your average PC gamer.

And nobody bought the One X, what's your point?

 

[teezzy]

And of course, if you still own that turntable, depending on the model, it's actually INCREASED in value.

Lost it in a basement flood, my man.

RIP

 

[Alexios]

PC owners have been shafted worse over the last couple of years than I've ever seen before. I can't remember exactly but I remember PC gaming hitting a funk about 20 years ago and then it came back big.

Now I feel sorry for them because they're being sold out. Why make games for PC when companies can sell them old shit, free to play jank and the odd token game.

Though the PC is the best place for VR at the moment, so swings and roundabouts I suppose

Er, what are those numerous awesome publishers that PC doesn't get support from in favor of of jank and old shit? It's even getting all major Japanese developer and even first party console manufacturer games these days and all those "console exclusive" titles the term was made up for. Lol?

 

[TriSuit666]

Lost it in a basement flood, my man.

RIP

Awww, that's sad to hear.