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Xbox Series X hands on previews are live

Leyasu

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To be fair, these preview XSX units are not playing any next-gen games. They are only playing the backward compatible games at the moment. I would love to see how the XSX performs under maximum load while playing an exclusive (or a demanding 3rd party game will the next Assassin's Creed) game before I pick one up. Cheers!

To be fair, we wont be seeing real "next gen" games taxing these systems until at least a couple of yrs. PS and Xbox gamers should see some nice improvements over current gen though. I am sure that both Sony and Microsoft have looked long and hard at keeping their systems as cool and quiet as possible. Next gen should be pretty great on the hardware front imo.
 
So im basically paying $500 for faster load times a 30 fps bump and last gen games?
MS could have showed off a few new games during these hands on.
MS is not the ones showing it it people that they send the console too and the new games are not release yet so those people cannot even play it yet. We have to be fair here on both side has Sony show anything on their console yet we know more about the Xbox than the PS5.
 

Warablo

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All we can wait for is Cyberpunk on the new consoles. Even then, they said the "true" next gen Cyberpunk won't be out until next year
 

ManaByte

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MS is not the ones showing it it people that they send the console too and the new games are not release yet so those people cannot even play it yet. We have to be fair here on both side has Sony show anything on their console yet we know more about the Xbox than the PS5.

They could've had a port house remake a 360 game or at least had an expansion for Gears 5 ready for them to try out.
 
They could've had a port house remake a 360 game or at least had an expansion for Gears 5 ready for them to try out.
Yeah they could but it seem the people doing these test with load time and BC Games framerate are using their own games. It seem MS just send them the console and said here test it out.
 

TeKtheSanE

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Don't forget these people are under NDA to only talk about what Microsoft wants them to. I'm expecting to see more of the system through October, and wouldn't be surprised if that's when we see something that will be a new release when the console releases.
 

TLZ

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This is why I'm going to trade-in both Pro and X.
 
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This is what I've been saying. I can deal with nearly any plausible console width in horizontal mode, it's the height that becomes limiting first. I'm not as convinced as others the X wins on size, it's a very smart design but the tallness would limit me before the PS5's wideness laid flat.

Fair enough for most media cabinets, but for anyone that has room on either side of the TV it might work great upright. My biggest concern overall is cooling and how much dust will accumulate using its vertical stance.
 

LordOfChaos

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Fair enough for most media cabinets, but for anyone that has room on either side of the TV it might work great upright. My biggest concern overall is cooling and how much dust will accumulate using its vertical stance.

Yeah I'd hate to have my electronics vacuuming up more dust being directly on the floor

In my case I could at least put it on top of the stand and tuck the tip behind the TV, but it would look a bit odd.
 
For all this "i have a pc so Xbox exclusives don't matter" or "why bother with Xbox when I can just upgrade my pc??", you just know a healthy chunk of these people will not be able to run next gen games on their current rig or be able to afford the upgrades that bring it in line with Series X performance anyways. It's a pacifier.
What are you on about? Of course I can run next gen games on my Potato laptop; Series S made sure of that.
 

Damigos

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Because those games take time, and are being built as we speak for the PS and Xbox.... They just wont be ready for another 18 months to 2 yrs unfortunately. Everything that we will play for the next 18 at the months at the earliest isn't going to really take advantage of the hardware available imo.
Not on PS5
 

dcx4610

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This generation feels so bizarre and low key. These consoles feel like the consoles we should have gotten last generation. It felt like the 360/PS3 had more life to it and could have lasted longer while PS4/XB1 felt like minor upgrades and a stop gap. These consoles look to actually deliver 60fps for the most part.

Still, just feels weird and doesn't feel like a big of a deal as it should be seeing new consoles.
 

FunkMiller

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MS is not the ones showing it it people that they send the console too and the new games are not release yet so those people cannot even play it yet. We have to be fair here on both side has Sony show anything on their console yet we know more about the Xbox than the PS5.

I truly am amazed at comments like this.

Demon’s Souls. Ratchet. Spider-Man. Godfall.

All gameplay videos.

Xbox have shown last gen games. Nothing new yet. This is what matters. We do not know more about the XBox because we’ve seen no new games on the XBox!
 
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I truly am amazed at comments like this.

Demon’s Souls. Ratchet. Spider-Man. Godfall.

All gameplay videos.

Xbox have shown last gen games. Nothing new yet. This is what matters. We do not know more about the XBox because we’ve seen no new games on the XBox!
Is it though just cause they say it running on a PS5 does not mean it is it could be running on a PC for all we know just being realistic.
 

Dick Jones

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I truly am amazed at comments like this.

Demon’s Souls. Ratchet. Spider-Man. Godfall.

All gameplay videos.

Xbox have shown last gen games. Nothing new yet. This is what matters. We do not know more about the XBox because we’ve seen no new games on the XBox!
Its good marketing from Xbox. This is for those with current gen Xbox on the fence with sticking with Xbox. Its reminding them that the games they own this gen will a) work on next gen and b) how much quicker it works. It brings up the question to someone on the fence of why are you giving up your colection.

I know, for me at least, with all the talk of backward compatibility I've been looking back at my backlog and trying to reduce that beast. I've been playing older games and playing more often truth be told.
 

Dick Jones

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Is it though just cause they say it running on a PS5 does not mean it is it could be running on a PC for all we know just being realistic.


Why would Sony potential harm themselves by specifically lying in their showcases when they could easily misdirect what it is running on? FFXVI was a PC while every other game was captured on the PS5.
 
I truly am amazed at comments like this.

Demon’s Souls. Ratchet. Spider-Man. Godfall.

All gameplay videos.

Xbox have shown last gen games. Nothing new yet. This is what matters. We do not know more about the XBox because we’ve seen no new games on the XBox!
Pretty sure we've seen gameplay of the Medium and Scorn. I imagine more will turn up over the next month and your "concern" will shift to other things like if your media center will be able to support your PS5.
 
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Overall, highly positive and great results overall. Games getting vast improvements without any optimizing. Have to wonder what some of those games would be if they were properly optimized to fully utilize the Xbox Series X. Six more weeks to go!!! Wish I could fast forward a month!!! LMAO.
 


Why would Sony potential harm themselves by specifically lying in their showcases when they could easily misdirect what it is running on? FFXVI was a PC while every other game was captured on the PS5.

Remember when Mark Cerny said PS4 Pro can reach 8.4 TF these company seem to exaggerate their claims that why we must wait for user to do real test for true confirmation.
 

FunkMiller

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Pretty sure we've seen gameplay of the Medium and Scorn. I imagine more will turn up over the next month and your "concern" will shift to other things like if your media center will be able to support your PS5.

We‘ve seen nothing confirmed running on XSX. Look, you can retreat into console warring bullshit if you like, but I’m as critical of Sony’s recent shortcomings as XBox’s.
 

ManaByte

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We‘ve seen nothing confirmed running on XSX. Look, you can retreat into console warring bullshit if you like, but I’m as critical of Sony’s recent shortcomings as XBox’s.

We still haven't see actual working PS5 hardware. People come into this thread trolling up a storm screaming how we're not seeing new games running on the XSX while ignoring that we haven't seen a PS5 outside of assembly line leaks. MS sent people real hardware and gave them a week to play with it.
 

Dick Jones

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Remember when Mark Cerny said PS4 Pro can reach 8.4 TF these company seem to exaggerate their claims that why we must wait for user to do real test for true confirmation.
I remember him saying a few years ago that a 8TF console would be need for true 4k. Could you link where he said the PS4 Pro was 8TF? His presentation was checkerboarding to best utilise the power of the PS4 Pro.
 

FunkMiller

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We still haven't see actual working PS5 hardware. People come into this thread trolling up a storm screaming how we're not seeing new games running on the XSX while ignoring that we haven't seen a PS5 outside of assembly line leaks. MS sent people real hardware and gave them a week to play with it.

Did you even bother to read my post above? I’m well aware of Sony’s shortcomings as well. BOTH companies are doing a poor job in different respects. It’d do some of you on both sides a lot of good to accept that and question why.
 

ManaByte

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I remember him saying a few years ago that a 8TF console would be need for true 4k. Could you link where he said the PS4 Pro was 8TF? His presentation was checkerboarding to best utilise the power of the PS4 Pro.


"One of the features appearing for the first time is the handling of 16-bit variables - it's possible to perform two 16-bit operations at a time instead of one 32-bit operation," he says, confirming what we learned during our visit to VooFoo Studios to check out Mantis Burn Racing. "In other words, at full floats, we have 4.2 teraflops. With half-floats, it's now double that, which is to say, 8.4 teraflops in 16-bit computation. This has the potential to radically increase performance."
 
I remember him saying a few years ago that a 8TF console would be need for true 4k. Could you link where he said the PS4 Pro was 8TF? His presentation was checkerboarding to best utilise the power of the PS4 Pro.
He said PS4 Pro could achieve 8.4 TF of computational power when in reality it was 4.2 that a big exaggeration and he also said PS4 Pro woud have 1 gig of extra ram which is also a exaggeration so all im saying is wait for actual test from user before jumping to conclusion.

 
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FunkMiller

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Remember when Mark Cerny said PS4 Pro can reach 8.4 TF these company seem to exaggerate their claims that why we must wait for user to do real test for true confirmation.

They clearly stated in black and white that footage is running on Ps5. Do you really think a company that got as burned as they did with all the Killzone controversy from years ago is going to make an even worse falsehood now?

The Ps5 gameplay footage we’ve seen is just that.

I’m confident XSX new game footage will be just as good when we eventually get to see some.
 
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They clearly stated in black and white that footage is running on Ps5. Do you really think a company that got as burned as they did with all the Killzone controversy from years ago is going to make an even worse falsehood now?

The Ps5 gameplay footage we’ve seen is just that.

I’m confident XSX new game footage will be just as good when we eventually get to see some.
It might not be a lie but it could be a exaggeration all the company do it from Nintendo to Sony to Microsoft they all do it that why we must not take everything they say to heart until test are done that all im saying im not deny those are PS5 game footage running on a PS5 all im saying is wait until test are truly done before coming to final conclusion.
 

Dick Jones

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He admits it's a 4 TF machine there. He may one of the smartest men in the room but he was trying to dumb it down for the average Joe. He is on about the checkerboard technique to give the impression of 4k without having a crazy price tag attached. Back then he believed that for native 4k you need a 8 TF machine. That process made the PS4 Pro better than the specs it had.
 

FunkMiller

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It might not be a lie but it could be a exaggeration all the company do it from Nintendo to Sony to Microsoft they all do it that why we must not take everything they say to heart until test are done that all im saying im not deny those are PS5 game footage running on a PS5 all im saying is wait until test are truly done before coming to final conclusion.

If Demon’s Souls does not look and play like the demo we’ve been shown, I’ll be the first one to complain about false advertising.... but I really don’t think they’re that stupid. We’ve seen Ps5 new gameplay. Now we need to see XSX for comparison.
 
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Hold the fuck up, are they showing old fucking games again, that one tweet shows loading times for games this gen?
Lol jesus
It's interesting, but lame at the same time.

GamePass for 1$ a month will let you get in and out of all all these crappy games really fast so you can get back here and annoy every one it's amazing... But none of the games on it is.
 

HeadsUp7Up

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Edit - Seems like it is that lagged on Xbox.

Before I call bullshit that gif I want to ask to Xbox owners.

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Is the menu that fucking slow to open in Destiny (the right gif)?
Because if I compare it with the experience I have in Destiny and Destiny 2 (over 2000 hours combined) I should say it either:

A) In being slow down.
B) Exclusive lag with Xbox Destiny.
C) Made up comparison.

The main menu is very smooth and fast on PS4.
Was just playing this the other night, can confirm it is this slow on my Xbox One X.
 
MS is not the ones showing it it people that they send the console too and the new games are not release yet so those people cannot even play it yet. We have to be fair here on both side has Sony show anything on their console yet we know more about the Xbox than the PS5.
It's still lame, they forgot about the games... Sony has ratchet and Clank, that Spiderman game... Something at the very least.
 

Hawk269

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Why do some of you have turn every fucking Xbox thread into a console war fanboy bullshit? Can't we just talk about the previews and how good the improvements are? Why does it have to be reduced to bringing Sony and the PS5 into it. I would understand if we had a PS5 being shown playing PS4 games and doing a comparison. This thread should have ZERO to do with PS5. For fucks sakes guys.
 
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