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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Because Sony saw the market for Bleeding Edge was huge.

Edit: $70 plus looks like a GAAS with heavy MTX.
From looking at these characters it looks like a sequel to Bleeding Edge, as you said. Ugh. Who would want to play Harmony for example lmao or this Angelo. If they won't nail gameplay this game looks dead on arrival lol
 

sircaw

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bold bit suggested that it is not coming to other platforms

They have to say that before a console launch, the game is out how many years, 2-3 4-5.
 

MrS

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Seems the fun is over. Mods are clamping down on rampant fanboyism.

This will elevate the level of discussion, but it will also make it a lot more boring. I predict fewer funny posts, takedowns, and just an overall gestapo feel where you are constantly walking on eggshells. Basically era.

Let's hope that we are at least allowed to make fun of Sony, microsoft and Nintendo without fear of getting banned.
The mods have said they don't want it to be like Era. I really don't see them clamping down too much, it's just that some people have gone way over the line of common sense recently and have had to be reigned in. Sucks that bans are the only way to do it but perhaps the message will get through that they're taking the fanboyism a bit too far. I like Bo but his thread the other day was too conspiracy theory-esque and just invited console wars.
 
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Seems the fun is over. Mods are clamping down on rampant fanboyism.

This will elevate the level of discussion, but it will also make it a lot more boring. I predict fewer funny posts, takedowns, and just an overall gestapo feel where you are constantly walking on eggshells. Basically era.

Let's hope that we are at least allowed to make fun of Sony, microsoft and Nintendo without fear of getting banned.
People can still have fun, there needs to be less antogonism and tribalism in this shit.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

We are all getting amazing next gen consoles VERY SOON. Whether you're team blue or team green or team pc or a combination of the three, nobody expected we'd be getting 10+ TF consoles with SSDs at $500. Why can't we all celebrate and just be happy without "hating" the other side? This is the crux of the recent problems. People don't want to have good games, they want the other side to fail or be bad. That is a very sad mental place to be in.
 

CrysisFreak

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I don't think they're conspiracies. I'm relatively new to DF, and subbed their channel because I find their technical analysis interesting. I can pick and choose what I care to believe from it, but the content is good IMO.

However, I think their critics have justification for feeling their system of choice is unfairly treated, as there are legitimate inconsistencies in the videos. PS reveal videos got wacky zoom, and speculation on framerates. The showcase demo of the MS show didn't get that same level of detail. We can all agree the game looked disappointing, but you don't need DF to tell you that. The zoom and framerate talk was expected to the same degree as the PS show, even if it meant picking apart a turd. That stink isn't supposed to be DF's concern, they'd merely be consistent in quality of analysis.

Similarly, there were no mentions of what made FF16 look so underwhelming, along the same lines as Halo. FF clearly suffers from poor lighting, among other missing effects, but while Halo got an entire video dedicated to pointing out how the poor lighting impacted the overall visuals, FF received no such treatment.

In the Hitman2 analysis, the worst portion of the benchmark shifted from the easy-to-read frame counter to a percentage based readout, which could be inferred as masking how bad the framerate truly was for an extended portion of that scene. IIRC, that section was also sped up, making the duration of those framerate drops seem less.

These aren't conspiracies so much as these are notable inconsistencies in presentation. I mentioned how trusted review/analyst sites make a point of creating standards when generating their content, as to provide comparable results, and to avoid the impression of bias. DF isn't some upstart review site trying to gain its footing, and establish its reputation. They've been around long enough to know better, and these are grown men who should be open to constructive criticism in order to allow themselves to improve. They don't seem to be heeding any of the feedback, which isn't helping to improve their standing with their critics. They might not care to do so, and that's their prerogative. However, I don't think you can write off criticism of their methods as just conspiracies, because I think that diminishes the claims of bias, that DF themselves have opened themselves up to with their continued sloppy approach to graphics analysis. It is what it is.


Laptop or Surface, IMO. Though I admit I have no idea why a laptop would be shown separate from a PC. Maybe because it's a mobile PC?
FF16 is super early man. Halo Infinite was supposed to release one week before Demon's Souls lmao.
 

pasterpl

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They have to say that before a console launch, the game is out how many years, 2-3 4-5.

if ms releases future Bethesda games on PlayStation why they don’t do same with likes of forza horizon (I am guessing it would sell shit loads on ps) or gears, even better game that looks perfect to be multi platform is sea of thieves, still not released on ps

reality is that future Bethesda games will be locked to Xbox ecosystem (gamepass, pc, Xbox)

I even think that if deathloop and ghostwire are successful ms will try to bring fans of these to their ecosystem with exclusive sequels
 

sircaw

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if ms releases future Bethesda games on PlayStation why they don’t do same with likes of forza horizon (I am guessing it would sell shit loads on ps) or gears, even better game that looks perfect to be multi platform is sea of thieves, still not released on ps

reality is that future Bethesda games will be locked to Xbox ecosystem (gamepass, pc, Xbox)

I even think that if deathloop and ghostwire are successful ms will try to bring fans of these to their ecosystem with exclusive sequels

yer i had this discussion with stuart the other week i think they will come to ps5, just for the fact that i think this is Xboxes last console generation. Gamepass will live on and it will be everywhere, even on ps5.
 

sircaw

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People can still have fun, there needs to be less antogonism and tribalism in this shit.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

We are all getting amazing next gen consoles VERY SOON. Whether you're team blue or team green or team pc or a combination of the three, nobody expected we'd be getting 10+ TF consoles with SSDs at $500. Why can't we all celebrate and just be happy without "hating" the other side? This is the crux of the recent problems. People don't want to have good games, they want the other side to fail or be bad. That is a very sad mental place to be in.

You make me so wet when you talk like that, and yes i can get away at saying that, look at my avatar. :messenger_grimmacing_
 

pasterpl

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yer i had this discussion with stuart the other week i think they will come to ps5, just for the fact that i think this is Xboxes last console generation. Gamepass will live on and it will be everywhere, even on ps5.

didn’t even Phil said that this will not be the last xbox console they do?
 
Been telling folks this will be an easier game. Janky animations are a helluva problem for player reaction. That ain't an issue here.
 
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xHunter

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bold bit suggested that it is not coming to other platforms
wtf, no it doesnt. It rather implies that these are coming to other consoles. Why wouldnt they say specifically say "coming only to Xbox consoles and PC"? This looks like Rise of the Tomb Raider all over again.

Edit: im not saying that they will come to PS5/Switch 4k, but your bolded part doesnt imply what you say.
 
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sircaw

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FunkMiller FunkMiller , was meant to ask you as you have finished demon souls, is that shot with the tree being hit by lightning in the original game, if so can you remember what map or area i would like to try find it?
 

PSX

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yer i had this discussion with stuart the other week i think they will come to ps5, just for the fact that i think this is Xboxes last console generation. Gamepass will live on and it will be everywhere, even on ps5.

I hope it's true, make things less complicated :messenger_smiling_hearts:
 

Nikana

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bold bit suggested that it is not coming to other platforms

I dont take it that way at all.
 

Sethbacca

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Because Sony saw the market for Bleeding Edge was huge.

Edit: $70 plus looks like a GAAS with heavy MTX.

I wanted this but I don't know that I want to take a $70 chance on an unproven title that still doesn't have any gameplay footage outside of the reveal trailer. How hard would it have been for them to just show a demo match or two from a couple characters perspective.
 

MastaKiiLA

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Because Sony saw the market for Bleeding Edge was huge.

Edit: $70 plus looks like a GAAS with heavy MTX.
Really need to see more of this game. I'm very interested, but won't buy a game I've seen so little of. We need to see the other arenas, for example, and a lot more gameplay.
 

Falc67

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Yes it does. The visual fidelity is as high. The LOD is as high. Feel free to provide direct comparisons if you like, but they’re on a par IMO. This is next gen. The only real next gen we’ve seen.

Oh I agree this is next gen. That particular gif is amazing, and running in the performance mode; however, UE5 looks better. I don't know how to make those high quality gifs, but the environments on UE5 were literally photorealistic, whereas these aren't.
 

ethomaz

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DF was super critical of Halo Infinite. Watch their live reactions. they trashed it completely. John went on a big rant about cross gen games. Richard literally cringed through the demo. Even Alex was like i cant defend this shit.

While I agree that the video Alex made about ray tracing fixing the look of the game wasnt as harsh as it couldve been, the premise of the video itself is harsh. your game looks like shit, here is what you can do to not make it look like shit is not something anyone wants to hear from a channel like Digital Foundry.

People really need to get out their bubble. Richard might have a soft spot for MS, but it hasnt clouded his coverage of Microsoft because he has trashed them at every turn. Watch the xbox one reveal and the series x june reveal reactions. they mock xbox through out those videos.
DF was full excuses to how Halo looked.

They even made another video trying to say it was only just the light and RT will fix everything lol

They didn’t even tried to cover their bias.
 
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sircaw

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Haven't played any of the souls games except for Bloodborne. Bloodborne was mighty difficult for me. Couldn't get past this one gigantic spider boss battle :(

The one in the chalice dungeon destroyed me over and over again.

It's like the one outside in looks just super buffed and can 1 hit you, it made me cry.

Its got so much hitpoints its crazy.
 
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travisktl

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The one in the chalice dungeon destroyed me over and over again.

It's like the one outside in looks just super buffed and can 1 hit you, it made me cry.

Its got so much hitpoints its crazy.
Same. That was the hardest part of the chalice dungeon trophy for me. You barely have any room to move without being completely surrounded by smaller spiders, and having to dodge Rom's crazy attacks and aoe blasts.
 
Same. That was the hardest part of the chalice dungeon trophy for me. You barely have any room to move without being completely surrounded by smaller spiders, and having to dodge Rom's crazy attacks and aoe blasts.

I gave up on that. Will gladly do a re run of the game if it gets a 60fps patch or a remaster with 60fps option!
 
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