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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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No. It’s not a stand since it’s not detachable. It’s part of the console itself.
This is like saying the whole bottom of any console is a stand.
And you can’t even see it when you put it vertically.
Stop reaching please

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Using your theory this is just a cake plate as the stand is not detachable? Ahhh Semantics. :messenger_neutral:
 
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Neo Blaster

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Although I'm skeptical of their claims, we also have to remember that bandwidth also plays a huge role as TF is just one part of the GPU. The PS5's GPU, 5700, and XT all have 448 GB/s, but on PS5 that 448 GB/s is shared between the CPU + GPU, and IIRC it's even shared with the Tempest Engine (AMD CUs stripped of its caches). Whereas those RDNA 1 dGPUs have their 448 GB/s fully reserved for themselves. We'll see how it all pans out, with RDNA 2's architectural improvements and other hardware customizations combined with Sony's very efficient low-level API, I do think PS5 will punch above its weight even compared to equivalent RDNA 2 PC dGPU over the coming years.
I'm really curious whether after October 28th we'll find out PS5 has this supposed 'Infinity Cache' too, not at the same amount as an AMD PC card, but enough to alleviate bandwidth bottlenecks.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Many do play at 30C or warmer temps

Like countries that dont commonly have air condition (places with short summer and long winter, so air con would be useless or too expensive because they are not common)

On my old apartment at Finnish summer temps that reach around 20-35C outiside combined with direct sunlight from morning till evening and no real night for months, my 1 room apartment reached 38-39C and even at night temps usually were 30-35C on hot days. AKA hell hole.

Moved this summer to bigger apartment made in 2020 (two rooms) with windows on two sides of the building and saw around 28C worst. So this probably reaches 30C too on hottest days.

Places that reach 40-50C outside + no air con = must be like sauna inside :messenger_beaming:

There are portable AC's you can buy and use during such conditions! This is no fun.:lollipop_anxious_sweat:
 

Neo Blaster

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The truth is that BOTH of these consoles are really pushing it to meet their respective release dates. Both are having SDK to HDK issues. For Sony this appears to be centred around the save transfer system for cross-gen updates, and late UI changes. For MS and for me, more worryingly, it is around key hardware features such as raytracing, hence why launch games need a patch to enable it. I suspect all issues to be resolved in time. It is a shame that they couldn't just agree to delay both of them, but I doubt either would have held up their side of the bargain.
Unless the first thing we see when we start PS5 up is a screen asking us to wait for UI download, I'm really skeptical they haven't completed the UI. These consoles started production months ago.
 

Md Ray

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I'm really curious whether after October 28th we'll find out PS5 has this supposed 'Infinity Cache' too, not at the same amount as an AMD PC card, but enough to alleviate bandwidth bottlenecks.
Is it the supposed 128 MB Infinity Cache? Is it confirmed? I haven't been keeping up with RDNA 2 news as of late.
 

sircaw

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a bloodbath is approaching 😅

I think Mark Cerny really listened to consumers and developers this generation. He could of easily just built another boring standard box unit and throw a lot of pr spin around it but he went in a completely new direction.

The ssd for example is not just some last-minute bolt-on, its fundamental to how games will be designed and played on the console for years to come, imagine what Sony's developers will be doing in 4-5 years vs the limitations of multiplat games. Buying a ps5 will always make sure that Sony fans are at the forefront of gaming evolution.

The controller, i mean again, Thank you Cerny, for giving us the best controller on the planet, all those extras, more advance feedback options and haptics, built in mic, look at what you can do in Astrobiot, ( you can blow into the fucking controller and make a fan spin lol) again Sony are pushing the boundaries for its gamers, they could of just gone with the ps4 bog standard once again, but they wanted evolution.

The sound engine, the best one ever in a console, live breath the world, just the three things above, if you don't have these you are missing out on what next generation is about. Imagine playing multiplats without the things above, why would settle for second best with Sony gives you it all and so much more.

Console is cool
console is quiet
console is beautiful

Everything sony has been showing, yes its a slow trickle but everything is on point.

Sony has new games for its console release, they want you to experience next gen and are offering you that chance. Imagine releasing a new console generation with no new games for it, i mean seriously Who the fuck does that?

I seriously believe the next 5 weeks are going to show why Sony have made the best console ever.

Big things are still to come, i bet they have tonnes in reserve still. Brace yourself in sony fan, things are about to get seriously good

Fish rule
xxxxxx "lollipop_disappointed:
 
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Pretty sure Sony can't say anything hardware related before AMD make their presentation on 28th.

Makes no sense as MS already did showed their cards at hot chips. If this is the case MS getting are completely screwed over in this so called partnership. Also you question whether Sony actually build better graphics card than AMD themselves if all they are doing is using Sonys customizations.

Its a bad look.
 

DaGwaphics

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The funny thing is I've seen a lot of people saying: "XSS is a really good budget console. But I'm going to buy the XSX".
I haven't seen anybody saying they are going to buy the XSS, they just praise it but they aren't buying it.

Now isn't the time for the XSS. I'm really interested in seeing if it is a successful idea that caries forward and maybe brings more gamers into the console space or a blazing failure. Certainly could go either way.

That decision won't start to be made until post launch when we get the comparison videos of software running on the three new platforms. Obviously the PS5 and XSX are going to look better, but to what degree, enough to make buyers laugh at the XSS or will the reaction for many be "it looks like the same games to me". How that plays will decide how successful or not the XSS is going to be.
 

Loxus

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Makes no sense as MS already did showed their cards at hot chips. If this is the case MS getting are completely screwed over in this so called partnership. Also you question whether Sony actually build better graphics card than AMD themselves if all they are doing is using Sonys customizations.

Its a bad look.
Not really, Sony is no.1 in camera technology.
So AMD using Sony tech isn't far fetched.
 

MistBreeze

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Sony approach of exclusive games and new features for hardware sure keeps people hyped up every generation

I really don't like hardware is irrelevant approach of microsoft

and to add insult to injury no first party day one titles

how can they expect people to run and purchase one right away
 

Axonometri

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Good Morning! What's the chance we start seeing more here in US market this week? I tried to watch a couple of those weekend videos... Uh.. yeah... Hopefully we get our own now.
 

Mr Moose

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No. It’s not a stand since it’s not detachable. It’s part of the console itself.
This is like saying the whole bottom of any console is a stand.
And you can’t even see it when you put it vertically.
Stop reaching please
It's a stand, what the fuck do you want me to call it? I can't remove my monitors stand, guess what, its still a stand.

Let's assume that you could count the circle base in the vertical orientation as a stand. The horizontal orientation doesn't need a stand but it has small rubber feet. If we can call those stands then we have gone truly crazy.
The circular bottom thing is a stand and it cannot be removed, the stand is on no matter what way you lay it.
 
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zubairali2

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I think Mark Cerny really listened to consumers and developers this generation. He could of easily just built another boring standard box unit and throw a lot of pr spin around it but he went in a completely new direction.

The ssd for example is not just some last-minute bolt-on, its fundamental to how games will be designed and played on the console for years to come, imagine what Sony's developers will be doing in 4-5 years vs the limitations of multiplat games. Buying a ps5 will always make sure that Sony fans are at the forefront of gaming evolution.

The controller, i mean again, Thank you Cerny, for giving us the best controller on the planet, all those extras, more advance feedback options and haptics, built in mic, look at what you can do in Astrobiot, ( you can blow into the fucking controller and make a fan spin lol) again Sony are pushing the boundaries for its gamers, they could of just gone with the ps4 bog standard once again, but they wanted evolution.

The sound engine, the best one ever in a console, live breath the world, just the three things above, if you don't have these you are missing out on what next generation is about. Imagine playing multiplats without the things above, why would settle for second best with Sony gives you it all and so much more.

Console is cool
console is quiet
console is beautiful

Everything sony has been showing, yes its a slow trickle but everything is on point.

Sony has new games for its console release, they want you to experience next gen and are offering you that chance. Imagine releasing a new console generation with no new games for it, i mean seriously Who the fuck does that?

I seriously believe the next 5 weeks are going to show why Sony have made the best console ever.

Big things are still to come, i bet they have tonnes in reserve still. Brace yourself in sony fan, things are about to get seriously good

Fish rule
xxxxxx "lollipop_disappointed:

i knew that if cerny continued to work with sony for the ps5, i'd have no doubt that what he would be building for next generation will be revolutionary. watching the ps4 reveal, road to ps4 and ps5 videos really shows that this man cares for the future game development.

for microsoft....i hardly see any kind of consistency or enthusiasm. just build a powerful box and here you go, make something great lol
 

PSX

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Love it, now we can delete online or single player mode from actual full size games, which means we get more free space on the SSDs well done!

 
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sircaw

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It's a stand, what the fuck do you want me to call it? I can't remove my monitors stand, guess what, its still a stand.


The circular bottom thing is a stand and it cannot be removed, the stand is on no matter what way you lay it.

I think we are about to see an angry moose on the loose lol. :messenger_heart:

Breath my friend breath lol


i was about to link Stephen kings the stand to you but i thought that might make you go postal "lollipop_disappointed: sorry
 
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Md Ray

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I think Mark Cerny really listened to consumers and developers this generation. He could of easily just built another boring standard box unit and throw a lot of pr spin around it but he went in a completely new direction.

The ssd for example is not just some last-minute bolt-on, its fundamental to how games will be designed and played on the console for years to come, imagine what Sony's developers will be doing in 4-5 years vs the limitations of multiplat games. Buying a ps5 will always make sure that Sony fans are at the forefront of gaming evolution.

The controller, i mean again, Thank you Cerny, for giving us the best controller on the planet, all those extras, more advance feedback options and haptics, built in mic, look at what you can do in Astrobiot, ( you can blow into the fucking controller and make a fan spin lol) again Sony are pushing the boundaries for its gamers, they could of just gone with the ps4 bog standard once again, but they wanted evolution.

The sound engine, the best one ever in a console, live breath the world, just the three things above, if you don't have these you are missing out on what next generation is about. Imagine playing multiplats without the things above, why would settle for second best with Sony gives you it all and so much more.

Console is cool
console is quiet
console is beautiful

Everything sony has been showing, yes its a slow trickle but everything is on point.

Sony has new games for its console release, they want you to experience next gen and are offering you that chance. Imagine releasing a new console generation with no new games for it, i mean seriously Who the fuck does that?

I seriously believe the next 5 weeks are going to show why Sony have made the best console ever.

Big things are still to come, i bet they have tonnes in reserve still. Brace yourself in sony fan, things are about to get seriously good

Fish rule
xxxxxx "lollipop_disappointed:
:messenger_grinning:
 

pasterpl

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The funny thing is I've seen a lot of people saying: "XSS is a really good budget console. But I'm going to buy the XSX".
I haven't seen anybody saying they are going to buy the XSS, they just praise it but they aren't buying it.

i have pre-ordered both; xbseries x and series s
 

ArcaneNLSC

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I'm shocked at that... Unless that's just a logistic issue with regards distribution.


They'll obviously get more stock in but everything they've been allocated was sold out on day 1 with the $200 deposit then they had a second preorder window of a $50 deposit which was the 2021 stock. So now until they get the next wave will likely be all 2022 stock
 

ArcaneNLSC

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I'm shocked at that... Unless that's just a logistic issue with regards distribution.


I should state an example of numbers the staff member gave me was and I don't know how accurate or precise or if he was just giving and example but what he stated was out of the 10 million launch consoles Australia allocated something like 200,000 PS5's with EB Games getting 40,000 of them
 

ToadMan

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Xbox Series X said to be in production
18 May 2020

Xbox Series X production is underway, France on priority list
16 May 2020

guess they were lying :p
if the first retail has a manufacture date of 15.sept.2020

Those first dates are when they started production - producing the components such as silicon, custom moldings and wiring looms for example.

Once they have a stock of component inventory at the assembly location (s) individual Xboxes get constructed from the components. After that they test for quality compliance. At the end of that process it is considered to have been “manufactured”. Hence the September date on the casing - that’s the date the assembled item was completed, not the date of manufacture of the sub components.

It’ll be the same for Sony.
 
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