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notseqi
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Link to the offending post please. I notice that I am crusading for VFXman but fucking hell, so far the arguments against him have been shit.He does post the "PS games coming to PC" theory, specifically TLOU, an awful lot though - and refuses to reply or engage when challenged on it. IfVFXVeteran is so sure TLOU is coming to PC, why not post the evidence and shut up dissenting voices? "Dude trust me" isn't going to cut it.
fuk u bo
No worries, let's try to shift it into a more constructive discussion.
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Bo_Hazem
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MrS
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This post is literally a reply to a post of yours, so I don't know if you're simply not paying attention to what people say to you or you're just skim reading things. He has said the same thing numerous times over the past three months too, others can attest to that, and I've probed him on it without getting any reply. If you want those posts, you'll have to go through his post history.
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Yoshi
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I always perceived SCE as pretty edgy, I must say.See, I'm weak against beauty. That avatar forces me to be polite.
notseqi
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fuck off green dragon
Bo_Hazem
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I'm scary, listen to me.
You listen to this 10 times in a row and you'll surrender to me.
notseqi
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I'm scary, listen to me.
You listen to this 10 times in a row and you'll surrender to me.
fukken classic
VFXVeteran
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I don't need to deliver sources. Do you ask
HeisenbergFX4
for his sources? You need to trust that the mods have already vetted me and that should be good enough. I'm not giving up my sources to anyone just to score some internet points.
nush
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You're not a news outlet, if you can't source your claims don't make them or put up with people disagreeing with you.
I think that tag has gone to your head.
VFXVeteran
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notseqi
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Another reason why it might be difficult to understand where he is coming from.I don't need to deliver sources. Do you ask
If you'd ask me for my job I would not be able or allowed to give you a straight answer.
But, then again, VFXman won't tell you that, which further hinders progress in discussion : )
It's in his tag though.
Almost like people that have never worked in a job with a ton of responsibilities.
Explosive Zombie
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I would never do that. I considered the idea of changing my avatar at some point but it would have to be after a significant amount of time and I would have to really like the other avatar.Are you guys going to do like @Ornlu and adopt similar letterposter avatars for Halloween?
notseqi
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I don't like you referring to your tag. I don't need proofs but riding on a validation is not a good look.
VFXVeteran
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I didn't make this tag - the mods did. You got a problem with it, take it up with them. 2. I have shut up about my inside talks since it's never scored me anything with certain camps and only caused more contention.
Lastly, disagreeing with me how? If someone says, "Sony won't port this game to the PC." like they did with HZD - and I hear from a Sony friend that HZD is coming to the PC - why would I not argue against the person who has no clue of the inside while I do?
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MrS
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If you make a claim, you should back it up. Show a mod if you're not comfortable posting it in a thread. Prove that TLOU is coming to PC or stop talking incessantly about it. Nobody here gets away with making outlandish claims and passing them off as fact.
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notseqi
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I am not sure how to put this adequately but I could give you info you would find very interesting, just not pertaining to the goal of this forum.
Could not give you any sources, never.
But... if you were interested enough you'd beg for more info.
Why does the speculation thread have a fuckton of posts?
If we have somebody here with fresh info that he is willing to disclose, is it this easy to run him off this forum?
You all want receipts, proofs, sure. Let's get fired and blacklisted for one guy rubbing his pants.
If he is what he says he is you guys are overtaxing him for stuff he has so far been willing to give up freely. How fucking hyped must he be about the work he does while willing to give up info on shit you're not supposed to know?
VFXVeteran
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That's not how this works.
You have two choices. 1) Try to ask someone that is another insider in the industry that may corrobarate my claim (either at another site like Beyond3D), or 2) Wait for a verification or denial from Sony themselves.
I was kind enough to pass on what I've heard. By now it shouldn't be 'outlandish' as you speak, as much has happened since people thought ANY Sony-made game was coming to PC (what a shock HZD was for many people). I won't make that mistake again though.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
A woman should be home with the children, building that home and making sure there's a secure family atmosphere.Gibson avatar already taking over and making you aggressive.
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HeisenbergFX4
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I don't need to deliver sources. Do you ask
Always makes me nervous when I log on and see me tagged on a ban thread.
That said you have all the validation you need in the Mods, you dont need to prove anything to anyone else.
If they choose not to believe you they can always just ignore you
notseqi
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That's a thing, but discussion is also valid. Discussion about facts given.
I am very hesitant to advocate being truthful to whatever somebody is saying but 'vetted' does carry some weight.
I was worried about somebody being free from criticism but I think, at least for me, it has been debunked.
nush
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I only know him from the bitching in this topic, I'm not in any camp. Thanks.
HeisenbergFX4
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I mean I have said a lot of things as facts on these boards and only a small handful of people know where my info comes from.
If some rando on the board here wants more proof I can't help them there as most of the time I say something I show
Mod of War
what I have to back up said statements.Sometimes I dont have that proof other than this is what I was told either in person or over voice chat.
Sometimes I cant prove what I say because of too sensitive of info in the chat and cant edit it out enough.
Especially having the Vetted tag proves enough to me someone knows what they are talking about and shouldnt have to prove something to randoms here.
Some of us share info because we are excited about what we hear/know and we almost always take abuse for it.
We don't do it to get rich or famous
notseqi
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I'm not camping in any way. I'd like some measured responses but we're not getting them, rightfully so(?).
Speculation could be rife in he way of neglecting actual info.
I am willing to go to bat for acclaimed sources.
The Mad Draklor
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It's called riding the Appeal to Authority coattails, especially when the information in question has more to do with technical expertise related rather than insider rumblings.
notseqi
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Achieving what?
CatLady
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Why is this post offensive? And why do you feel VFX should be compelled to reveal his sources to you? Most likely they are under NDAs and their jobs could be at risk.
Sony fans in in the next Gen Sony Safe Space never demanded any kind of proof when all the fake insiders they all idolized were pushing 13+ TFs. They just swallowed it all at face value. You guys* only want proof when you don't like the information being given.
* I'm not referring to you specifically, just a lot of the Sony super fans in general.
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The Mad Draklor
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Of what is "achieving" referring to?
MrS
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I asked VFX a question and I got an answer: he is not willing to substantiate his claims. All good and I am drawing a line under this. Discussing it further achieves nothing.
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Bonsaibäumchen
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I mean I have said a lot of things as facts on these boards and only a small handful of people know where my info comes from.
If some rando on the board here wants more proof I can't help them there as most of the time I say something I show
Sometimes I dont have that proof other than this is what I was told either in person or over voice chat.
Sometimes I cant prove what I say because of too sensitive of info in the chat and cant edit it out enough.
Especially having the Vetted tag proves enough to me someone knows what they are talking about and shouldnt have to prove something to randoms here.
Some of us share info because we are excited about what we hear/know and we almost always take abuse for it.
We don't do it to get rich or famous
Some of you - yes - others not so much.
End of discussion for me anyways.
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
OMG we've been teleported to Meta GAF again. At least it's not Virgin GAF
Bo_Hazem
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Laconian Sword
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I don't understand this. So all his opinions, from games, to computer architecture, to graphics, to business strategy are now "vetted" and to be taken as gospel?
I don't doubt his credentials in his particular corner of the industry and subfield, but this doesn't make him an authority in everything else. Us "randoms" might have our own credentials, right? Something he tends to underestimate from what I can tell.
nush
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Welcome to MetaGaf, farnsgoths.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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I know, this belongs in Virgin Gaf.
Bo_Hazem
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Insider have info, whether it ends up happening or not, it's a personal choice to believe or not. Problem is if someone is pushing it as official, hard-facts.
notseqi
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'What is the rational and optimal solution to the problem you have?'
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
It's all happening too fast. I've got to put the brakes on or I'll smack into something.
Bo_Hazem
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Nikana
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While i agree, we can't ignore that there are a lot of posters who treat insiders/people with knowledge as PR and make the correlation that the person who passed on the information, wether it ends up being true or not, as an advocate for the information.
Which leads to ridiculous posts of console warring snd accusations being thrown around.
People need to chill out when it comes to any type of insider information.
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