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[DaGwaphics]

Did I say It's always dipping? The fact that it dips after compensating to 1800p, VRS selective resolution drop even more, and no raytracing is just embarrassing.

I expect this same level of outrage when Spidy uses dynamic resolution or TI for performance mode. Especially if there is so much as one instance where an explosion or chaotic frame causes a stutter.

I haven't seen a Sony first-party title that successfully locks the frame rate throughout, that's very difficult to do on console. There is generally a second here or there where a target gets missed, I hope you keep your exacting standards the same across the board.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Never experienced it, but read about it on Xbox One X, at least. Not sure about other XO versions. It's a well-known PC issue though.

Then I guess your eyes aren't as good as you think.

 

[cragarmi]

I have no idea, mate. All I know that I just received a confirmation that Oman will introduce 5% VAT in April 2021.

I wouldnt expect anything much till the 19th tbh, gotta stay patient for Soony, im sure it will be worth the wait Lets face it, Dirt and Yakuza is not going to cut it!

 

[Sinthor]

Should Microsoft have included a Kinect connector knowing that no one asks for this? Compared to PSVR, to which people are hoping for version 2 within the following years.

Well, to be fair I think options are always good. Unless there's some hardware reason that it wasn't viable maybe? Like the camera not being compatible or something?

Bottom line, even if it's a PITA, I think it's good to offer options to your user base.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Maybe they didn't enjoy the race and just left. It's easy to blame 120 FPS.

Maybe they saw what happened to some being cut in half so they ran for their lives!

 

[Stuart360]

All this FUD from Xbox gamers ,ban them all. Xbox users are shamelessly spreading FUD about Xbox. Report them!!!

Xbox are shambles.They don't understand product rollout. Trying so hard to be loved & liked they are damaging their product roll out. There's no quality control. The product is getting reputation damaged each announcement because of retarded marketing of TFlops & power. Now everytime its a fucking meme & banta.

Whats all this running to social media ,try get fake likes. This shit goofy as fuck. Who is allowing this in HQ. Elite company's don't market products like this. This is sloppy.Now you got youtubers making your product look bad. Don't release cheap,shitty teardown video rollouts & show products not ready. Makes the brand look bad.



That is why Sony don't send stuff out that is not ready. And control their own product. As for XSX man oh man you ain't getting next game games. Expect downgraded pc versions of ports.At this rate there's going to be a new X device in 2-3 years.

One of the most cringeworthy posts i have read on here, and thats saying something with this thread.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Nope

Dirt 5 next gen upgrades may miss PS5 launch, saves won't transfer from PS4 version

Xbox Series S/X next gen upgrades still on launch day, and saves will transfer from Xbone through Smart Delivery.

www.neogaf.com

So just later in the year. Thats within a month and a half of the PS5s which isn't anything to worry about.

 

[Codexer]

 

[pasterpl]

GT Sport on PS4 Pro, 1440p@60fps (checkerboarded to 4K)

Dirt 5 on Xbox Series X, Quality mode "Dynamic" 4K@60fps

gt7 ps5

point is, you can find shitty screenshot in every game

Bo_Hazem while I enjoy your posts, you agenda is tiring

 

[Sinthor]

MS has said all XBO games will be available at launch.

Sony literally dropped a PS2 chip in the PS3 to make it BC. They then removed this chip.

MS's BC plans are completely software emulation which is 100x more impressive than Sony dropping a chip on an MB. They could have added a Cell chip here.

Sony's BC plan has essentially locked them into a path unless they figure out how to do software emulation like MS. Every Sony console that wants to maintain BC must have CU's in multiples of 36.

Its how they ran compatability on the Pro and its how they will on the PS5. 36 is 36 for a number

You know that's not true about the CU's right? You can disable CU's via software. So they could easily have some box in the future running say 60CU's and be just fine with backwards compatibility. That being said, they might have an issue if say we were using quantum computers and that translated to only 2 CU's or something. But they're fine and NOT locked into multiples of 36. That would just be silly.

 

[MasterCornholio]

gt7 ps5

Isn't there outdoor shots?

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

So just later in the year. Thats within a month and a half of the PS5s which isn't anything to worry about.

I didn't say it was, just wondered if that (and the fact it's yet another game without PS4 to PS5 save transfer) was possibly the reason so many Sony fans seem to want to dunk on Dirt 5.

 

[pasterpl]

Isn't there outdoor shots?

whole gt7 gameplay so far was from first person perspective

 

[ToadMan]

I expect this same level of outrage when Spidy uses dynamic resolution or TI for performance mode. Especially if there is so much as one instance where an explosion or chaotic frame causes a stutter.

I haven't seen a Sony first-party title that successfully locks the frame rate throughout, that's very difficult to do on console. There is generally a second here or there where a target gets missed, I hope you keep your exacting standards the same across the board.

I think if the games are "next gen" - whether that's gameplay, or presentation or both - then allowances are made for fps dips, dynamic res etc. It's why BB is popular despite its presentation shortcomings.

But if the game looks like DIRT both figuratively and literally, it's not unreasonable to expect it to maintain its target frames and res at least. It doesn't augur well for next gen if the image quality is that bad coupled with performance degradation.

 

[Dodkrake]

gt7 ps5

point is, you can find shitty screenshot in every game

Bo_Hazem while I enjoy your posts, you agenda is tiring

Let me help you with some non 720p resolution there

 

[Bo_Hazem]

gt7 ps5

point is, you can find shitty screenshot in every game

Bo_Hazem while I enjoy your posts, you agenda is tiring

You have no agenda when putting that extremely gimped screenshot, huh?

Here is the 4K screenshot from the video:

Your BS is pretty transparent. 576p screenshot.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I didn't say it was, just wondered if that (and the fact it's yet another game without PS4 to PS5 save transfer) was possibly the reason so many Sony fans seem to want to dunk on Dirt 5.

I don't know about that compared to games like GT and Forza Dirt 5 looks bad to me.

whole gt7 gameplay so far was from first person perspective

I would have used an outdoors shot since the Dirt 5 ones were outside a tunnel. Just to make the comparison make more sense because a grey tunnel isn't exactly the same thing.

Not exactly the best comparison but much better than the tunnel in my opinion.

Bo_Hazem thanks for the shot.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

You have no agenda when putting that extremely gimped screenshot, huh?

Here is the 4K screenshot from the video:

Your BS is pretty transparent.

His point flew completely over your head...

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Then I guess your eyes aren't as good as you think.

I'm Bo "Eagle Eye" Hazem.

 

[ToadMan]

I didn't say it was, just wondered if that (and the fact it's yet another game without PS4 to PS5 save transfer) was possibly the reason so many Sony fans seem to want to dunk on Dirt 5.

PS4 to PS5 save transfer is up to developer, not Sony.

 

[Dodkrake]

His point flew completely over your head...

What was his point then? To pass a sub 720p screenshot of a 4k compressed video as a representation of reality?

 

[DaGwaphics]

I think if the games are "next gen" - whether that's gameplay, or presentation or both - then allowances are made for fps dips, dynamic res etc. It's why BB is popular despite its presentation shortcomings.

But if the game looks like DIRT both figuratively and literally, it's not unreasonable to expect it to maintain its target frames and res at least. It doesn't augur well for next gen if the image quality is that bad coupled with performance degradation.

That's more an issue with the engine used and the artistic talent though. Games like that weird tiger one on the PS4 do happen.

I actually don't think Dirt 5 looks bad in the DF video. They've obviously spent more time on the track than the IQ of the scenery, but that is their choice. This is definitely a game about flying through some mud rather than taking photos of the scenery from the track. Plus this game is releasing on current-gen so the engine is still current gen and they've turned things up where they can. It will be great to see some output from engines built entirely for next-gen capabilities.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

I'm Bo "Eagle Eye" Hazem.

Not if you've never seen screen tearing on the PS4.

You're Bo "Closed Eye" Hazem.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

i don't think its going to be a masterpiece but from watching its early days its got better and better, solid 8/10 maybe a little more for me.

I would like to know how its going to be supported, is this a once and done, no dlc, no new weapons or armour being added to the game. Games like this need deep systems and content addition to make them last.

I hope they have them.

Besides that this game to me looks great, its something different on the ps5.

I might not get this at the start but i will def get this later down the line.

*Sprinkles some quality fish food in the tank. Yeah I definitely saw the growth in the games showing. I bet that Godfall and Destruction All-stars will be PS5 big PS Plus games come this time next year.

 

[Lysandros]

If this image was from the PS5 version you would see at least twenty spectators on the left since it has 20% higher polygon throughput.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

I don't know about that compared to games like GT and Forza Dirt 5 looks bad to me.

There are no other "new" racing games at launch. Though Forza Horizon 4 is getting Xbox Series X enhanced at least. Might be a big deal to some people.

It's just weird we've got Sony fans bashing the game in here.

PS4 to PS5 save transfer is up to developer, not Sony.

I never said otherwise. At the end of the day it still doesn't change many games won't have PS4 to PS5 save transfers and it's compounded if the PS5 version is delayed, ala Yakuza 7 and Dirt 5

 

[Bo_Hazem]

His point flew completely over your head...

And use 576p screenshot as 2160p (4K)? That's called "FUD". I show undeniable proofs for all my claims, but using sleazy tactics to discredit people is disrespectful.

 

[saintjules]

 

[Wraith Phantom]

When is Dirt 5 coming out for the PS5? I always thought the PS5 version would be available with the systems launch.

After Bo's screenshot. We wont miss it. Whenever that destruction car game shows up. And it looks better than Dirt. I don't think PS guys will care. We are good. We can wait for GT.

 

[JTCx]

No one would travel to kill me because I love PlayStation. I can give you my exact location if you're interested though.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

And use 576p screenshot as 2160p (4K)? That's called "FUD". I show undeniable proofs for all my claims, but using sleazy tactics to discredit people is disrespectful.

The point is that you can always find shitty stills of a game. Do you know what I find disrespectful? That you would never hammer so hard on Dirt5 if the marketing rights were for Sony. Your agenda is obvious to everyone.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Let me help you with some non 720p resolution there

Even those aren't 100% 4K screenshots btw, slightly lower, here is a 4K of the same frame above:

 

[MasterCornholio]

There are no other "new" racing games at launch. Thoughorza Horizon 4 is getting Xbox Series X enhanced at least. Might be a big deal to some people.

It's just weird we've got Sony fans bashing the game in here.

I don't think it really matters if there are other next gen racers at launch. If the game looks poor than that's the way it is. Dirt 5 doesn't look good on the XSX and I'm sure it will look worse on the PS5. It's not like we can say that Bugsnax looks amazing because it's the only game of it's type at the PS5s launch.

 

[yewles1]

You have no agenda when putting that extremely gimped screenshot, huh?

Here is the 4K screenshot from the video:

Your BS is pretty transparent.

I don't know about that compared to games like GT and Forza Dirt 5 looks bad to me.



I would have used an outdoors shot since the Dirt 5 ones were outside a tunnel. Just to make the comparison make more sense because a grey tunnel isn't exactly the same thing.

Not exactly the best comparison but much better than the tunnel in my opinion.

Bo_Hazem thanks for the shot.

I legit didn't notice the motion blur in GT7 during gameplay before, amazing!

 

[Tajaz2426]

The point is that you can always find shitty stills of a game. Do you know what I find disrespectful? That you would never hammer so hard on Dirt5 if the marketing rights were for Sony. Your agenda is obvious to everyone.

I am not warring and I disagree with how a lot of people handle themselves, but I gather the point may be that people crap on PS5 being dynamic 4K with games like Demons Souls and now we have seen gameplay and it is dynamic 4K.

If that isn’t the point of some posters then I don’t agree with it being said. I am excited for both consoles to push limits this gem. Even though I am a PC gamer, the consoles seem to be pretty interesting.

 

[ToadMan]

There are no other "new" racing games at launch. Though Forza Horizon 4 is getting Xbox Series X enhanced at least. Might be a big deal to some people.

It's just weird we've got Sony fans bashing the game in here.

It looks bad - it looked bad at the reveal back in June/July whenever it was and people said so then.

It's nothing to do with console choice - it's a multiplat.

I never said otherwise. At the end of the day it still doesn't change many games won't have PS4 to PS5 save transfers and it's compounded if the PS5 version is delayed, ala Yakuza 7 and Dirt 5

How many games?

 

[Riky]

"Wake up. I dont give a fuck about xbox never bought the junk box in my life. This brand is a running meme. Xbox need to get better quality control on their product. Its just looking tragic & dumb right now"

Wow the quality of posting has really fell off around here hasn't it.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The point is that you can always find shitty stills of a game. Do you know what I find disrespectful? That you would never hammer so hard on Dirt5 if the marketing rights were for Sony. Your agenda is obvious to everyone.

Well, it's the first next gen game running on XSX. And many were shitting on "Dynamic" 4K from the green side. That's why I'm hammering "the truth", which is quite painful to some as it seems.

 

[xHunter]

I didn't say it was, just wondered if that (and the fact it's yet another game without PS4 to PS5 save transfer) was possibly the reason so many Sony fans seem to want to dunk on Dirt 5.

I mean, cant the same thing be said about xbox fans? "Seems like the reason people try to defend the game is because its associated with xbox"

 

[MasterCornholio]

I guess you haven't met Bo_Hazem bodyguard.

Included with every PlayStation 5.

 

[MiguelItUp]

I love how so many people are like, "Wow, Dirt 5 looks like shit! XSX sucks, close shop, we're done here!" Lol.

 

[Sethbacca]

Wait what? When did external SSDs become an option? I'm assuming if it's an option. It will only be for last gen titles?

 

[LivingD3AD]

Am i the only one who thinks something major is wrong with Series X hardwares wise?! There is no a single ray tracing showcase running on the hardware so far! And dirt 5, first XsX real gameplay showcase looks like dog shot running on the hardware and the game doesn’t have any sort of ray tracing! This is unbelievable!

 

[Mr Moose]

Never experienced it, but read about it on Xbox One X, at least. Not sure about other XO versions. It's a well-known PC issue though.

Depends on the game, but there's been some games on PS4 that doesn't have it when the Xbox One version does (and probably the other way around too).
Sniper Elite 4

Crysis Remastered/CoD MW, most recent ones that I remember.

 

[Hendrick's]

Am i the only one who thinks something major is wrong with Series X hardwares wise?!

Yes

 

[Codexer]

 

[Sinthor]

That's good to see! I was wondering when we'd start seeing things like this. Was hoping it would be soon...otherwise I would have started to think they may miss the launch dates!

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

I mean, cant the same thing be said about xbox fans? "Seems like the reason people try to defend the game is because its associated with xbox"

Whataboutery isn't a particularly good look, but the original FUD thread with the Ars Technica lies had plenty of Xbox fans saying it's trash.

I don't think it looks good either, but it's clearly being weaponised despite being multiplatform, which is, frankly bizarre. On both sides.

 

[PSNplanetcolony]

Am i the only one who thinks something major is wrong with Series X hardwares wise?! There is no a single ray tracing showcase running on the hardware so far! And dirt 5, first XsX real gameplay showcase looks like dog shot running on the hardware and the game doesn’t have any sort of ray tracing! This is unbelievable!

No, I just think its lazy development or low budget games. Lets see what their flagship looks like next year.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Am i the only one who thinks something major is wrong with Series X hardwares wise?! There is no a single ray tracing showcase running on the hardware so far! And dirt 5, first XsX real gameplay showcase looks like dog shot running on the hardware and the game doesn’t have any sort of ray tracing! This is unbelievable!

No you are not alone, a lot of PS fans have these concerns.