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[ipukespiders]

"safety and moderation"
aka banning

 

[Trogdor1123]

Wait a second, this doesn't say sony is doing it, just other users. It is correct for them to point this out as the information could easily be recorded and shared. That's the point of the share button.

I think this is just a reminder to watch your mouth. I assume chat will be opt in rather than opt out now.

 

[Gold_Loot]

Wait a second, this doesn't say sony is doing it, just other users. It is correct for them to point this out as the information could easily be recorded and shared. That's the point of the share button.

I think this is just a reminder to watch your mouth. I assume chat will be opt in rather than opt out now.

Exactly. Unfortunately for some, critical reading comprehension is a trait that escapes them.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

At least you reread it and got it.

There are dum-dums that are making videos about this too.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Seems like the recordings can be used to get you banned.

 

[Nubulax]

I dont think its Sony doing the recording , its other people in the chat with you that can record and send ..I have to get into a party to test it out

This is what I took it to mean

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Seems like the recordings can be used to get you banned.

Well yeah of course they can lol

 

[Kdad]

Well this is an easy "ignore user" decision

 

[Ulysses 31]

Well yeah of course they can lol

How strict are they?

Can I assume gender?
I can say that there are only 2 genders?
That Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong?

 

[ksdixon]

i'm tired, i'm missing the controversy?

other players in your party chat have always been able to record your voices in gameplay footage. has this changed from being defualted off to defaulted on, and that's what people are complaining about?

 

[Soodanim]

Hey guys

Remember in 2020 when GAF hated outrage culture

Then got outraged over fuck all

Funny times

 

[Kdad]

How strict are they?

Can I assume gender?
I can say that there are only 2 genders?
That Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong?

Why not save those conversations for your therapist or irl friends.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

This is the most consecutive string of bad press I've seen Sony get since the PS3. The hits just keep coming.

 

[WakeTheWolf]

Big nope, but I'm antisocial and don't play online anyway.

Lol this I'd be concerned if I had friends to speak to

 

[Kdad]

This is the most consecutive string of bad press I've seen Sony get since the PS3. The hits just keep coming.

What is the bad news here?

 

[Ulysses 31]

Why not save those conversations for your therapist or irl friends.

I know the answers to those questions, and so does the us legal system. I'm curious what Sony thinks of them.

Edit: In case it wasn't clear, I don't think Sony should be enforcing any kind of political ideology if I were to use party voice chat.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

What is the bad news here?

There is a lot of outrage online over the update. People are upset because they can be recorded, can't create single person parties, among other things.

That was my understanding at least. Am I wrong?

 

[Pankratous]

i'm tired, i'm missing the controversy?

other players in your party chat have always been able to record your voices in gameplay footage. has this changed from being defualted off to defaulted on, and that's what people are complaining about?

The only controversy is that people can't read. Everyone thinks Sony themselves is recording party chats, when they are not.

 

[Moonjt9]

Where did reading comprehension go? This isn’t even difficult to understand. Are schools really this bad now?

 

[spawn]

I believe this was already happening. Say another user is recording their playthrough and they post that playthrough on twitter, youtube, or twitch then your voice could be on that video

 

[Kdad]

There is a lot of outrage online over the update. People are upset because they can be recorded, can't create single person parties, among other things.

That was my understanding at least. Am I wrong?

Who is doing the recording in this screenshot....

 

[bboris77]

I just can’t wait to see the guidelines on how they are going to decide the length of a ban. It is kind of nutty that they are turning themselves into the judge, jury and executioner.

This new internal policing department will have to hire an army of language specialists from all different backgrounds to ensure they can capture all the different culturally and regionally specific nuances of insults and swear words. Lol.

I wonder what is in it for Sony except scoring some popularity points with the PC crowd and appear like they are trendy.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Yes, so no one in a party say to someone "I'll fuck your mom and sister and then kill you and feed you to the pigs".

We've been heavily monitored by Microsoft and Apple, they're not really interested in random users bullshots.

 

[Hendrick's]

I believe this was already happening. Say another user is recording their playthrough and they post that playthrough on twitter, youtube, or twitch then your voice could be on that video

But now they are saying they will take those recordings, review them for any bannable indiscretion, and keep them on file for as long as they want. Also, with this language, they would be legally fine to record you should they choose.

 

[Kdad]

I know the answers to those questions, and so does the us legal system. I'm curious what Sony thinks of them.

Sony's game system is a private affair...they can impose whatever rules they want. Maybe leave your agenda at the door and just play games.

 

[Pankratous]

I just can’t wait to see the guidelines on how they are going to decide the length of a ban. It is kind of nutty that they are turning themselves into the judge, jury and executioner.

This new internal policing department will have to hire an army of language specialists from all different backgrounds to ensure they can capture all the different culturally and regionally specific nuances of insults and swear words. Lol.

I wonder what is in it for Sony except scoring some popularity points with the PC crowd and appear like they are trendy.

I would imagine they are focused primarily on targeted verbal abuse i.e a party user is abusing another party member directly.

I don't think they'll waste time on people being politically incorrect or using swear words generally.

 

[quickwhips]

This is unacceptable. I never used this feature but it's ridiculous.

Must suck not having friends to game with.

 

[spawn]

But now they are saying they will take those recordings, review them for any bannable indiscretion, and keep them on file for as long as they want. Also, with this language, they would be legally fine to record you should they choose.

Good, then we can ban the toxic people who say bannable things

 

[Tripolygon]

Seems like the recordings can be used to get you banned.

You're getting yourself banned for being an asshole. The recording is just there as proof that you did what someone said you did. If you didn't do anything you won't be banned despite if someone claims you did. It is no different from say GAF where someone can report you by clicking the report button.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

But now they are saying they will take those recordings, review them for any bannable indiscretion, and keep them on file for as long as they want. Also, with this language, they would be legally fine to record you should they choose.

They are saying users can send recordings to them for review. This has always been the case

Sony is not doing the recording

 

[Ulysses 31]

Sony's game system is a private affair...they can impose whatever rules they want. Maybe leave your agenda at the door and just play games.

See my edit. If Sony's enforcing any political agenda when using voice chat, I'd want to know about it.

 

[Redlancet]

Reading comprehension?

The official text is just a get-out clause so they aren't responsible if someone records you while saying naughty things in party chat and gets you "cancelled" or whatever as a result.

Basically, its a boilerplate "we imply no privacy in chat" declaration.

oh they know,but you know...fud as always

 

[Kdad]

See my edit. If Sony's enforcing any political agenda when using voice chat, I'd want to know about it.

You can frame a system to protect civil discourse as political if you wish. A gaming system chat function isn't where you get constitutional protections for your speech. If you have such concerns, no gaming console chat function with be suitable for you.

 

[Redlancet]

My how the 2013 tables have turned

its so funny how some of you want to keep this narrative that sony is on the same shitpool that ms on 2013 ,its delusional and laughlable at the same time

 

[MasterCornholio]

Mod of War

Can we have this added to Calverz comment?



It clarifies it a bit and it's a direct link to the twitter account.

Thank you.

 

[Kdad]

Mod of War

Can we have this added to Calverz comment?



It clarifies it a bit and it's a direct link to the twitter account.

Thank you.

Fucking sad that they have to clarify what is perfectly clear already.

 

[jonnyp]

Nothing concern troll about it.

Maybe they should have been more clear in the first place.

Concern liked your post, pretty funny.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

People are upset over more than just the recording aspect from what I am seeing.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Fucking sad that they have to clarify what is perfectly clear already.

It's there for those that need it. It really should be in the OP.

Sony got the camera and now openly admit to recording voice chats this gen?
Wtf man?!

Seeing this from the OP makes you think it's something else.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

"why aren't companies more transparent?"

*company makes helpful disclosure reminding them of something that already existed for over a decade*

"WHAT THE FUCK SCREW THIS COMPANY HOW DARE THEY"

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I've read one reply in this thread and I get the feeling people will take the op out of context

It says "users may record voice chats and send them to us"

It is saying that a USER may send the voice chat to Sony, possibly for reports etc.

That's entirely different to spying or listening in to conversations.

 

[Kdad]

People are upset over more than just the recording aspect from what I am seeing.

Make more threads about it....but this thread is ridiculous.

Only 30 more days of concern threads to go. Yipee

 

[Kdad]

It's there for those that need it. It really should be in the OP.



Seeing this from the OP makes you think it's something else.

Yeah I meant sad that Sony has to clarify...OP needs a timeout for stirring obvious shit.

 

[jonnyp]

"By particapating in voice chats you agree to your voice being recorded." Why is it worded explicitly that way? Sounds like they (Sony) can do whatever they like with that disclaimer.

To cover all legal bases in order to never be held legally accountable by what others do, It's not rocket science. Why would Sony spend large sums of money on infrastructure recording what idiots say in party chat?

 

[Jigsaah]

All they gonna hear is me bitching about getting killed by lag in pvp on Demon's Souls. Have at it Sony.

 

[NeoGiffer]

 

[fersnake]

all your phone calls/sms etc are recorded so what's the big deal here?

 

[ultrazilla]

Bitches be worried about this when they have an Alexa sitting on the shelf behind them listening and recording everything they say.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

How strict are they?

Can I assume gender?
I can say that there are only 2 genders?
That Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong?

This is not a free speech platform, pal.

So toe the line!

 

[TLZ]

I don't get what's wrong with what's written. They're saying other users in your party chat can record what you're saying and report that recording to Sony. Isn't this what people being harassed want?

Either people don't know what they're ranting about or don't read, which I mostly believe is the latter, especially these days.