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[DinoD]

That’s because it’s not true...

This game won’t run at 4K 60fps on either console. Not native at least. The game engine is too taxing. Both consoles will let you choose performance modes.

I wouldn’t trust OPM with anything.

Yakuza: Like a Dragon on Xbox Series X - how next-gen hardware delivers a cross-gen experience

Yakuza: Like a Dragon has Sega's much-loved series taking to the new generation in style, an Xbox Series X launch title…

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Deleted member 775630]

he says exactly that

he said people upgrading consoles like people upgrading their graphic cards in PCs

and no one cares for launch lineup for 3080 gpu

since when gpu has a launch lineup

he is trying to downplay launch line ups to defend microsoft

people upgrade gpu to power

people buy consoles for new games including launch lineups

If people care about power they will not stick to a console for 6 plus years

He said that consoles are more and more like PC'S but not completely there yet. He also said in case of consoles it's not only about launch titles. And In case of PC no one cares about launch titles.

So big difference with what you are claiming he is saying. But Tom Warren always gets people triggered in this topic.

 

[Yoboman]

Source: @OPM_UK

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This can't be right. Having done my research, MS have promised 8k and they are known for telling the truth

 

[MistBreeze]

He said that consoles are more and more like PC'S but not completely there yet. He also said in case of consoles it's not only about launch titles. And In case of PC no one cares about launch titles.

So big difference with what you are claiming he is saying. But Tom Warren always gets people triggered in this topic.

What u r saying is leading to same conclusion
He is trying to downplay launch line up by mentioning no one buing rtx 3080 cares for launch line up
He just made theories that consoles are becoming PCs to downplay launch line up importance for consoles


No one talked about PCs Ryan Mcaffry was talking about xbox series x having a weak launch

he tried to shove in PCs to the conversation to find excuses to Microsoft

No one should defend a console basically having the weakest launch line up in history

even xbox one had better launch line up

ryse, killer instinct , dead rising 3

 

[scie]

This can't be right. Having done my research, MS have promised 8k and they are known for telling the truth
[...]

This 8K is the biggest marketing bullshit ever... They implemented HDMI 2.1 so they can output a 8K signal. It is the same of having an Intel integrated graphics which can outout 4k/60 signals, but can only run minesweeper.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

This 8K is the biggest marketing bullshit ever... They implemented HDMI 2.1 so they can output a 8K signal. It is the same of having an Intel integrated graphics which can outout 4k/60 signals, but can only run minesweeper.

Obviously 8K is purely for marketing reasons, both companies used this, but we already have 1 game that is running natively at 6K, so I can imagine that some indie titles will actually run at 8K by the end of this gen.

 

[ToadMan]

I can not defend sony for raising games price to 70 dollars

This is very easy to defend. You may not want to pay more perhaps and don’t have to like it, but increasing the price of games is easily defensible.

Assuming its all true why would there be a 30FPS difference between the two platforms?

I can understand the GDK might be causing some issues but a 30FPS drop on the XSX?

Something doesn't seem right to me.

At a guess, the Xsex version is basically the BC version.

PS5 version is not due until March and will be optimised properly.

Which I’d expect to be patched in the Xsex version too.

So I’d say Yak is being rushed to get it out for Xsex launch but the “real” next gen version is due March.

 

[Sinthor]

Obviously 8K is purely for marketing reasons, both companies used this, but we already have 1 game that is running natively at 6K, so I can imagine that some indie titles will actually run at 8K by the end of this gen.

I thought there was one game already that was shown at 8k? It was basically a card game...if I'm recalling that right?

Bottom line, you're dead on with this. Yes, both Sony and MS are saying....truthfully..that the new consoles support 8K graphics...so it's technically more than video playback. But as you also note....we will not be seeing major mainstream games running at 8k. The power required to do games at say 8k@30fps or 8K@60fps would be ENORMOUS and far beyond either console. I don't believe there's any PC card right now that will actually run major games at 8k either, is there? I remember reading some statements from AMD where they said that 8k would take multiple GPU's and requires roughly SIX TIMES the power it takes to push 4k gaming today. So maybe the card does exist out there that can do it, but it would doubtless costs thousands of dollars.

So no...while we may see some simplistic title that actually hit the 8k mark this generation...conceivably anyway...we won't be playing something like CyberPunk 2077 or Call of Duty in 8k anytime soon!

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

 

[DrDamn]

He's not wrong. This launch lineup is awful across the board. Keep deluding yourself if you wish.

 

[devilNprada]

Well, CatLady offered me a blow job for a starter,

Fixed

 

[3liteDragon]

Anyone know what he's talking about? Thought the SSD inside was soldered to the motherboard.

 

[MistBreeze]

A question to people

what of ps5 accessories u will buy?

is the charging dock important?
The pulse headset maybe the most important out of them?

I only ordered the box,,, no accessories whatsoever

wait and see approach
Droping money in launch games is best imo
as for games I plan to buy all of my games digitally going forward for convenience purpuses

- although I dont want to download and wait for demons souls and miles morales - but thinking for long term If I lost disksof these games I will be forced to rebuy them from psn

decessions ,,,, decessions

 

[TLZ]

Give me NAO.

 

[Sinthor]

Anyone know what he's talking about? Thought the SSD inside was soldered to the motherboard.

Given the price shown here, I expect this is just an external SSD drive to use as storage expansion. If so, it will only work for PS4 games, or to STORE PS5 games (you would have to copy them back to the internal SSD to play them).

If it's an internal drive, you're right that the main storage is soldered in and you can't touch it, but there is an expansion slot that can be used to extend the internal storage and that will work to run PS5 games as well. MAYBE this price is right for a 500GB drive like that....but I think it's probably an external drive instead.

The typical SSD that would work for internal storage (though we don't yet know officially as Sony hasn't released an official list) is about $250 for a 1TB drive. Again, we have to wait to hear from Sony what their recommendations will be to expand internal storage.

 

[Zoro7]

How are some still defending that dreadful series X launch lineup? Like seriously, I get you might be a fan boy but Jesus.

 

[3liteDragon]

Given the price shown here, I expect this is just an external SSD drive to use as storage expansion. If so, it will only work for PS4 games, or to STORE PS5 games (you would have to copy them back to the internal SSD to play them).

If it's an internal drive, you're right that the main storage is soldered in and you can't touch it, but there is an expansion slot that can be used to extend the internal storage and that will work to run PS5 games as well. MAYBE this price is right for a 500GB drive like that....but I think it's probably an external drive instead.

The typical SSD that would work for internal storage (though we don't yet know officially as Sony hasn't released an official list) is about $250 for a 1TB drive. Again, we have to wait to hear from Sony what their recommendations will be to expand internal storage.

I know about the expansion slot and stuff, I was just confused as to why it was just called "PS5 SSD" instead of having another brand name (unless this is being sold by Sony and they haven't announced it yet).

 

[TLZ]

There is a unique taste that goes with well done. I eat so much meat, the best way isn't even steak though. Something we call "Madhbi" which is cooking meat on stones. No fancy-ass forks and knives, directly to the business like a real caveman.

Man I'm fasting and starving and can smell the barbecue in that video from here!

 

[Rossco EZ]

have we heard what resolution and fps cyberpunk runs at yet on PS5/XSX?

 

[Sinthor]

I know about the expansion slot and stuff, I was just confused as to why it was just called "PS5 SSD" instead of having another brand name (unless this is being sold by Sony and they haven't announced it yet).

Yeah, that's bizarre alright.... I figure it's not the brand and actual name of the drive though. Was looking and even the Western Digital drive that's supposed to be ok and work for the PS5 is about $150 for the 500GB version and $230 for the 1TB. I guess we'll see pretty soon!

 

[geordiemp]

XSX in BC mode is confirmed (by Microsoft to DF) to use no architectural improvements (RDNA 2) in their mode. Not saying PS5 is doing the same but it could be.

That means games are not using OPTOINAL techniques like VRS, ray tracing and mesh shading in the code, thats about it.

Dx12 api and games ran fine on 5700 RDNA, RDNA2 just adds some more options on top. This GCN thing is just posters not getting it.

 

[yewles1]

This is very easy to defend. You may not want to pay more perhaps and don’t have to like it, but increasing the price of games is easily defensible.



At a guess, the Xsex version is basically the BC version.

PS5 version is not due until March and will be optimised properly.


Which I’d expect to be patched in the Xsex version too.

So I’d say Yak is being rushed to get it out for Xsex launch but the “real” next gen version is due March.

I'm sorry, but people had plenty of time to prepare for such inevitability.

 

[Jose92]

have we heard what resolution and fps cyberpunk runs at yet on PS5/XSX?

We have not heard at what resolution and how well the game will run on current gen consoles, mind you next gen.

 

[Rossco EZ]

We have not heard at what resolution and how well the game will run on current gen consoles, mind you next gen.

yeah i’ve been keeping my eye out for info about it but haven’t heard much. only thing i’ve seen is on the xbox store it says ‘4K Ultra HD’ but nothing about if that’s 4k30 or 4k60

 

[geordiemp]

Source: @OPM_UK

Spoiler

That difference does not compute, something is fucked up somehwere.

 

[Rea]

By man-children maybe.

What the hell is that?

 

[FunkMiller]

Source: @OPM_UK

Spoiler

There’s a chance OPM have the info wrong here, but if not, it gives me strong deja vu from 2013, when we started to get clear information out about the disparity between Ps4 and X Box One. And if it’s true for this game and more, I wouldn’t want to be a strong XBox defender that’s spent months trumpeting Microsoft’s claims about power.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Source: @OPM_UK

Spoiler

I'd say we better wait for Sega to confirm this, it just doesn't make sense to have double the freaking framerate.
If it turns out to be true... hell's gonna break loose.

 

[LivingD3AD]

That difference does not compute, something is fucked up somehwere.

Salehi also feels that hitting the 12 TFLOPs peak performance on the Xbox Series X will only be possible under ideal conditions if all components work at their peak efficiency. However, he feels that is not the case with the PS5, which will work at the 10.28 TFLOPs peak performance for the most part. PS5 Chief Architect Mark Cerny also drove home the point that TLOPs are not the only performance metric during the PS5 reveal last month.

Contrary to previous reports, Crytek developer feels the PlayStation 5 can sustain its 10.3 TFLOPs better and is easier to develop for than the Xbox Series X

A Crytek developer by the name of Ali Salehi has opined in an interview to a Persian gaming site that developing for the PlayStation 5 is easier than the Xbox Series X. He also said that the Xbox's higher TFLOP advantage is only applicable in ideal conditions and that the PS5 can better sustain...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[FranXico]

XSX in BC mode is confirmed (by Microsoft to DF) to use no architectural improvements (RDNA 2) in their mode. Not saying PS5 is doing the same but it could be.

Architectural improvements are there, wether you are running code for GCN or RDNA. It's features which would have to be enabled by software that do not get used (there are ways to forcibly enable them, but at the risk of compromising compatibility).

 

[Codexer]

 

[B_Boss]

Original music? Not a fan of the orchestral Japanese soundtracks, reminds me of cheesy RPG’s. Licensed quality music like in Death Stranding. Now that was a perfect selection.

I am not sure what Japanese orchestral music you’ve been listening to but I assure you, that might be too much of a blanket statement lol. Japanese gaming/RPG orchestral and of composed music is some of the greatest and well written music on planet Earth . Try a few:

 

[Dodkrake]

XSX

- Most powerful console ever, 25TF (a minimum of 40 fps, it's math)
- Fastest SSD (VA offers 2.5x multiplier, effective 18GB/s, plus efficiencies around PRT and VRS, so it's like 36GB or more)
- Smart Delivery (it installs the best version for your system, no questions asked, no additional money like phony)
- 120fps with Ray Tracing at up to 8k (if developers are not lazy)
- Dolby3D, amazing sound and compatible with all your speakers, no need for proprietary shit
- Proprietary expansion card, to ensure maximum compatibility (and much better than opening your console every day to switch the SSD)

 

[Pedro Motta]

XSX

- Most powerful console ever, 25TF (a minimum of 40 fps, it's math)
- Fastest SSD (VA offers 2.5x multiplier, effective 18GB/s, plus efficiencies around PRT and VRS, so it's like 36GB or more)
- Smart Delivery (it installs the best version for your system, no questions asked, no additional money like phony)
- 120fps with Ray Tracing at up to 8k (if developers are not lazy)
- Dolby3D, amazing sound and compatible with all your speakers, no need for proprietary shit
- Proprietary expansion card, to ensure maximum compatibility (and much better than opening your console every day to switch the SSD)

The amount of dumb shit is staggering.

 

[chilichote]

XBox Series X 1 TB Disc Version? Is there a Version without Drive?

 

[YoodlePro]

Is the Cold War heating up?

 

[Gudji]

XBox Series X 1 TB Disc Version? Is there a Version without Drive?

It's probably just to avoid employee mistakes/confusion with XSS.

 

[chilichote]

It's probably just to avoid employee mistakes/confusion with XSS.

You're probably right, but it would be weird if an employee confused the Series X with the Series S - the boxes and the consoles are absolutely not similar^^

 

[BGs]

Contrary to previous reports, Crytek developer feels the PlayStation 5 can sustain its 10.3 TFLOPs better and is easier to develop for than the Xbox Series X

A Crytek developer by the name of Ali Salehi has opined in an interview to a Persian gaming site that developing for the PlayStation 5 is easier than the Xbox Series X. He also said that the Xbox's higher TFLOP advantage is only applicable in ideal conditions and that the PS5 can better sustain...

www.notebookcheck.net

Today, the importance of TFs...




Well, maybe this better...

 

[Rudius]

Wreckfest at 60FPS ?

That would be amazing. I already completed the game, but would buy the dlc if they provide 60fps.

 

[Redlight]

There’s a chance OPM have the info wrong here, but if not, it gives me strong deja vu from 2013, when we started to get clear information out about the disparity between Ps4 and X Box One. And if it’s true for this game and more, I wouldn’t want to be a strong XBox defender that’s spent months trumpeting Microsoft’s claims about power.

Why? Are you going to destroy them with your superior wit?

 

[Shmunter]

I am not sure what Japanese orchestral music you’ve been listening to but I assure you, that might be too much of a blanket statement lol. Japanese gaming/RPG orchestral and of composed music is some of the greatest and well written music on planet Earth . Try a few:

Hehe, your right. I was shooting from the hip. I don’t know enough about the subject because rpg’s are not my cup of tea. No Ill will intended.

 

[B_Boss]

Fixed

Are you insane lol? I don’t believe she deserves to have that written about her .

XSX

- Most powerful console ever, 25TF (a minimum of 40 fps, it's math)
- Fastest SSD (VA offers 2.5x multiplier, effective 18GB/s, plus efficiencies around PRT and VRS, so it's like 36GB or more)
- Smart Delivery (it installs the best version for your system, no questions asked, no additional money like phony)
- 120fps with Ray Tracing at up to 8k (if developers are not lazy)
- Dolby3D, amazing sound and compatible with all your speakers, no need for proprietary shit
- Proprietary expansion card, to ensure maximum compatibility (and much better than opening your console every day to switch the SSD)

Why would anyone on earth ever need to “open up your console everyday to switch the SSD” lol? Unless of course this is a joke post, etc.

 

[azertydu91]

Are you insane lol? I don’t believe she deserves to have that written about her .



Why would anyone on earth ever need to “open up your console to switch the SSD” lol? Unless of course this is a joke post, etc.

This was a joke post.

 

[geordiemp]

There’s a chance OPM have the info wrong here, but if not, it gives me strong deja vu from 2013, when we started to get clear information out about the disparity between Ps4 and X Box One. And if it’s true for this game and more, I wouldn’t want to be a strong XBox defender that’s spent months trumpeting Microsoft’s claims about power.

 

[Reave]

In all likelihood, the game is just a half-assed port for Xbox S|X and PS5 — not a console issue.

Yakuza (and even Judgment) we’re built on the same old ass Kamurocho assets they’ve used for years.

If that’s any indication about how willing they are to go the extra mile, these next-gen resolution/framerate numbers should come as no surprise.

 

[ghairat]

In all likelihood, the game is just a half-assed port for Xbox S|X and PS5 — not a console issue.

Yakuza (and even Judgment) we’re built on the same old ass Kamurocho assets they’ve used for years.

If that’s any indication about how willing they are to go the extra mile, these next-gen resolution/framerate numbers should come as no surprise.

Doesn't answer the question of why it is running 4k @30fps on XBOX series X. Makes no sense what so ever.

 

[Garani]

IMHO the charger is the greatest add-on possible for a PS5. I could finally charge without looking for a USB port of a active computer.

 

[Reave]

Doesn't answer the question of why it is running 4k @30fps on XBOX series X. Makes no sense what so ever.

It kinda does when you look at their track record.

4k/30fps for Series X makes about as little sense as Judgment running at 1080p/30fps on PS4 Pro.

Point being, they just don’t give a shit about resolution and frames. Never have.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

IMHO the charger is the greatest add-on possible for a PS5. I could finally charge without looking for a USB port of a active computer.

I had one for the PS4. Kept it next to my sofa, so I never actually had to walk to the console to do anything.