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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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HeisenbergFX4

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Both systems will see performance gains in the future. What he should ask Microsoft is when they will expect the XSX to vastly outperform the PS5. Hopefully XSX owners don't have to wait long for that to happen because it's something some of the expected from the beginning.

I do not believe the XSX will "vastly" outperform the PS5 really ever.

I do expect to see things turn around for XSX owners very soon
 

HoofHearted

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I do not believe the XSX will "vastly" outperform the PS5 really ever.

I do expect to see things turn around for XSX owners very soon

Agreed/Same - based on the initial wave of discussions to-date - it appears this generation of games will (sadly) be about miniscule differences on framerate dips and fleeting image quality differences for the foreseeable future until game engines catch up and implement the native capabilities of the available hardware ...

I'm much more interested in the advancements that both of these consoles bring to games moving forward .. (example - latest DF video on RT enhancements between PS4P and PS5)..
 

timmyp53

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Have you used the cards in Demon Souls? you could literally hop between worlds within 2-3 seconds without having to ever touch an archstone ever. The level of immediacy sony is able to demonstrate at such an early stage for PS5 via miles and demon's souls is truly commendable. Cold War has it's card system too, but dear lord is it a broken mess.
I did try the cards on demon soul and saw the game help cards for areas but ran into bugs where when i tried to resume from the home menu they would just start the game from the main menu. I'm assuming the updates constantly on DS are working on it.
 
There is always something new on next year :messenger_grimmacing_

This is true but HDMI 2.1 TVs are still too new for it to make sense to buy one right now. There just isn't enough options right now to make a confident purchase.

Every article keeps hyping up the LG CX but there are just as much articles saying those TVs have issues right now, so waiting 6 months to a year for more options to be released is a smart move.
 
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Shmunter

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I do not believe the XSX will "vastly" outperform the PS5 really ever.

I do expect to see things turn around for XSX owners very soon
I feel the opposite. Indeed, my money is on the gap widening in PS5 favour.

The ssd feeding ram and devs tapping into the programmable geometry engine is still uncharted territory. Not sure what XsX has to offer apart from general refinement.

See how it plays out.
 
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I did try the cards on demon soul and saw the game help cards for areas but ran into bugs where when i tried to resume from the home menu they would just start the game from the main menu. I'm assuming the updates constantly on DS are working on it.

For the cards to work in Demon Souls you need to have first loaded the game and be in the main menu(conintue from checkpoint menu). From there the game works like a gem with cards. for instance you can choose "Shrine of Storms" card and it takes you right there without navigating to the nexus. then from shrine, say if you want to jump into the gates of boletaria, just pull up the card and there you're right at the gates in 2-3seconds without needing to go to the main menu or use the nexus or touch archstones
 

timmyp53

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For the cards to work in Demon Souls you need to have first loaded the game and be in the main menu(conintue from checkpoint menu). From there the game works like a gem with cards. for instance you can choose "Shrine of Storms" card and it takes you right there without navigating to the nexus. then from shrine, say if you want to jump into the gates of boletaria, just pull up the card and there you're right at the gates in 2-3seconds without needing to go to the main menu or use the nexus or touch archstones
I think I saw the card for the archstones when I was in my first hours but yeah there would only have been one for boleteria, game help and the usual trophy ones so I think so you may be right.
 

saintjules

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My man Moore's Law with the hammer



Interesting indeed. So rumors from this are:
  • Silent Hill may be revealed at TGA and Kojima is rumored to be working on it
  • GOW Ragnarok gameplay demo has been ready for some time, but Sony is holding off on revealing it due to PS5 demand taking over the headlines
  • MGS Remake had been worked on for 3 years, simultaneously with Demon's Souls. MGS is the game Cerny has been working on (rumor)
The MGS seems doubtful, unless Bluepoint is a bigger Studio than I imagined.
 
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vpance

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Too much smoke around Silent Hill for months now, it's defintely on. Kojima being able to work on it again is an amazing win.
 
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sircaw

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Just be real. Guys like that are exactly the same as this Tom guy you all love to hate. Only difference is that one is doing his actual job and the other is just an attention whore.

These things are what pisses people of though, least on my side of it.

And people then repeat shit like here, being smart arses, this is how these wars develop.

These executives need to be better, all of them.
 

SSfox

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My man Moore's Law with the hammer



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I want to believe so much in MGS remake, as MGS1 is my favorite game of all time, but it's looks like made up fake leak.
 

Zheph

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Isn't there a MGS reference in DeS? It would adds up but I gotta agree with the size of the studio, its less than 100 person I believe... Two AAA games at the same time?
 
They just can't let it go can they. Why can't they enjoy their games on their system and stop trying to come out with this "more powerful crap"

It's just a world of butt hurt and pain.

AMEN. i hope all of the warriors can see this post. there is no loser here. We are only mocking the arrogant XBOX marketing including the FUD spreaders, the same as we did to PS3. history just likes to repeat for whatever reason.
 

THEAP99

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They just can't let it go can they. Why can't they enjoy their games on their system and stop trying to come out with this "more powerful crap"

It's just a world of butt hurt and pain.
It's so sad. You'd think with all those "great gamepass value games" they'd be busy.. but nah
 

Futurematic

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But now Sony A8H (A85) 55" oled got price drop because of black week, from 1899€ -> 1299€ (~1500$) aka lowest it have dropped on EU, includes 22-24% VAT.

If you’re willing to sacrifice HDMI 2.1 the Sony A8H beats the CX in everything else. I spent an hour side by side with control over settings and content at my awesome local indie shop, the Sony just looks better especially colours and black/off vs near-black/on pixels. I am very happy with the A8H paired with the PS5.

There’s always trade-offs after all.

By not having hdmi 2.1 what I am losing? Worse color gamut? Worse lag? What else is there for 2.1 hdmi beside being able to send higher resolution/fps material?

You lose:
ALLM to switch TV to game mode and prioritize input lag. Samsung TVs murder picture quality to achieve this alas.
(if you have a Sony TV & PS4/5 they do this de facto)

VRR. Nice for minor framerate drops as the screen syncs refresh rate to prevent tearing but seems buggy enough to wait for 2021 TVs if that feature is key for you. Also more important on PC vs consoles, given consoles doing better on locking frame rate this generation so far.

120fps/native or dynamic 4K. If you play high level CoD and other multiplayer fast paced shooters this ends discussion of HDMI 2.0–buy a CX or X900H.

Chroma 4:4:4 is too much at 60fps/4K/HDR, dropping to 4:2:2 and costing minor colour and sharpness. Note that 60/4K & 30/4K/HDR both still do 4:4:4 on HDMI 2.0 at least.
 
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