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[Digital Foundry] Watch Dogs Legion: PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X|S - Graphics, Performance, Ray Tracing!
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BaneIsPain
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Pixel counts higher win. GET INN!!
On a serious note, it is really identical performance Can't go wrong with either version
On a serious note, it is really identical performance Can't go wrong with either version
The PS5's 22% uplift in pixel fillrate over SX likely makes up for the lack of 2 TF.
That's a smart GPU design, IMO. Do more with less.
Guy, if you are so smart that you think that you are, why not you request a job like gpu designer for AMD? to talk about those things to need lot of knowledge and experience that obviously you don´t have. Don´t understimate the work of many engineers from AMD and Microsoft that maybe they thought in all that you thought before. Maybe they have a good reason. And btw if you want to get more credibility change your avatar picture.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So another set of 4+ GB patches is coming?
Tripolygon
Banned
There is RT reflection in all 3 consoles. PS5 version however has a bug that omits showing puddles in the reflection on a glass. This bug is not present on the Xbox Series X and S version.
There is no parity here, the game uses a very fine-grained dynamic resolution scaling which means a higher performance GPU should see a higher resolution but PS5 and XSX are dropping to near identical resolution at similar taxing spots.
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Agnostic2020
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Why would I be upset about parity ? Party is best for all gamers.u just play where u like.
MadchesterManc
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
they said ps5 has last ditch overclocks to make it a 10tf console...............and its at least parity on multiplatform games after launch....................this is in my opinion a 10 tf machine beating a 12 tf console........ this is a win for ps5
SSfox
Member
Yeah graphically pretty same, tho 26 sec VS 18 sec loading times is pretty considerable.
Md Ray
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Md Ray
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01011001
Banned
and to me....................this is a Ubisoft game.........................and therefore..............not a good benchmark.........for anything
Mr Moose
Member
44%, enough time to wonder if you should've bought Assassin's Creed instead.
^ Me, wondering lol
Md Ray
Member
Over -30% reduction.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
got bad news for u man..................ubisoft puts out these multiplat games annually on most platforms......................we r stuck with ubisoft
Yes, and again both deliver way higher than what is needed for current games. 4K@120 is 960Mpixels per second. Even at this extreme rate, XSX is able to deliver 7,6 triangles per single pixel while PS5 9,3 triangles per single pixel. Both are a wash and way above the necessary. The compute difference should be much more relevant for today´s shader heavy games but it is not showing for some reason. I guess the next months will be interesting....
Riky
$MSFT
Rubik8
Member
It’s the same on both. The only way you’d see a winner is if there was a uncapped framerate mode. But there isn’t, so don’t fan the flames.
Just like the theoretical GPU advantage not showing for series X, PS5´s SSD should be twice as fast as the XBOX and reality is not showing anything like that. I guess we will figure out in the next months if the theoretical PS5 and XBOX advantages show...
Null Persp
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PS5 looks lower res here, look at the print and the window in the back.
True, but it a very very small subtle difference, game is almost identical on both console.
Guy on the left in the reflection looks like Craig lol
Riky
$MSFT
ethomaz
Banned
You can play others games like Miles Morales, Demon's Souls, etc... you will see that Sony SSD advantage exists... it is not a fabricated thing.
MasterCornholio
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Well it seems to do pretty well with 1st party games. I'm guessing that's where the XSX will truly show any advantages that it has.
Handy Fake
Member
Looks like a continuation of the puddle bug, puddle isn;t reflecting light in the reflection either.
SegaSnatcher
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While I think parity is great, this is another bad look for the Series X given the marketing. People are expecting higher resolutions for the Series X, but its no better than PS5 version.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
not fanning the flames
Agnostic2020
Member
U really need to get banned over this type thread derailing bs. U made a bad take about series s being better than ps5 its fine but doubling down on that shit should be ban worthy. Unless u r joking .Even series S manages reflected puddles, my theory came true
But knowing u, u r not joking most probably unfortunately.
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Yes, I agree but even with Tons of overdrawn, both are way above what is needed and fillrate should not be a bottleneck in any.
Tripolygon
Banned
And when it is fixed in a patch you end up looking like an idiot, even though that's not hard for you, like in the COD thread and PS5 performance bug that is fixed with a restart. Isn't it crazy how all your supposed wins are from either bugs or gone after a patch? Curious enough you leave out the lower texture filtering which is another bug on Series X and of course the much lower texture filtering on the S.
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Handy Fake
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Like a monkey throwing shit at a dartboard.
M1chl
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Man, that 18 seconds is a far cry from how I understood Cerny's presentation...
PS
For those, like me, who views DF as paid shills:
You also view Fidelity FX as better solution than DLSS 2.0 so your view does not count for much.
Amazin'True, but it a very very small subtle difference, game is almost identical on both console.
Guy on the left in the reflection looks like Craig lol
Iced Arcade
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soooo has anyone actually played this and recommend it? it's on sale and curious
lol ironic af
Riky
$MSFT
Agnostic2020
Member
Did I ever say ps4pro is better than xsx? If I do and derail threads like that then I should for sure .soooo has anyone actually played this and recommend it? it's on sale and curious
lol ironic af
Riky
$MSFT
I was replying to someone who had claimed the seies X AF bug made it inferior you absolute tool.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
DF thinks too much about the configuration file. You can still have a lot of differences with the config settings the exact same.
I’ve seen a lot of people get crazy with explicit IF statements at crunch time.
And even beyond the code base differences things like the AF issue could even be at the driver or api level.
I’ve seen a lot of people get crazy with explicit IF statements at crunch time.
And even beyond the code base differences things like the AF issue could even be at the driver or api level.
DrBillOA
Banned
Means the reflections are not ray traced for this 'bug'.
My twitter favorite has some addition info but it should be stated DF is dropping The ball here, no bug.
@astaranx: Not only the puddle but also the windows
, on #PS5 is grey white like a mere texture, on #SeriesS and #SeriesX, it looks like a real window 
Are you implying that UBI is making PS5 load slower just for parity? You may then use the same flawed logic and argue the graphics are kept the same on XBOX that has a stronger GPU... These consoles are showing better parity than X360 vs PS3 and way better parity than X1 vs PS4 and Neither is showing any major advantages over each other as the theoretical GPU/Memory and SSD specs lead us to believe.
skneogaf
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I think the developers have just chosen the easiest option and set both to the same settings.
Both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses so both could be slightly different but it's so much easier to set the games at settings both will achieve easily which is why fps is absolutely flat.
Both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses so both could be slightly different but it's so much easier to set the games at settings both will achieve easily which is why fps is absolutely flat.
Ubisoft has already shown last gen that they are eager to go for Parity. Especially at launch as to not cause "debates and stuff".
Md Ray
Member
Means the reflections are not ray traced for this 'bug'.
My twitter favorite has some addition info but it should be stated DF is dropping The ball here, no bug.
@astaranx: Not only the puddle but also the windows
Found
Riky
's actual Twitter account.
AllBizness
Banned
They dont know how to differentiate paper specs from reality. They look at the tf count and not realize its theoretical, and they look at the RAM specs and see more bandwidth but in reality it's a split pool with two different speeds 1 slower. In the end it averages same bandwidth as PS5 no advantage.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
The PS5's 22% uplift in pixel fillrate over SX likely makes up for the lack of 2 TF.
That's a smart GPU design, IMO. Do more with less.
If the XSX's performance is, at best, similar to PS5, the PS5 GPU design will be a masterpiece. It's because Sony basically produced the GPU at a cheaper cost (and it performs at the same level), and that money was spent on other features, like SSD, I/O, controller, etc -- which yields exclusive advantages.
New Yorks Finest
Banned
Nice surprise today in the update que on my S|X, patches for one of my fav of all time open world games WD & AC:V...time to dig in!