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Unironically, I say Trans people are human too and shouldn’t be villainized.
Believe me, they’re just like me and you. Dealing with life and daily routines.

I just want to say that Era doesn’t portray all Trans people. What it does, is portraying them in bad light.

It mostly portrays them as crazy, super dramatic, bullies and assholes, it also doesn’t help that some of them think they’re center of the universe just because of their sexuality. Half of them are larping and cis white males(as Era likes to say very much) think they’re King of Trans after talking with them for two days. You know exactly what I mean...

Put Era and those loons aside. Don’t let them make you hateful like themselves.
Trans people deserve to live a good life and be treated fairly.

Era =/= all Trans folk

Peace💯🤘🏻🙏🏻

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I can't wait until we see the very obviously upcoming thread on how video games in general are bad and wastes of time and instead of playing them people should be working for THE CAUSE. It'll be 20 pages long and filled with "wow never thought about it but...you're right"
 

Kiraly

Member
Just read that supposedly the only transphobic issue in the game is that poster they have been going on about?

It's fucking hilarious in a way that they have been losing their shit for MONTHS over a poster that maybe 0.001% of the players will think more than 5 seconds about upon seeing it.
 
How stupid are the staff at ResetEra? We have had post after post with evidence Banshee mcspook is an obvious troll and alt account.

The troll even admitted to being an alt account.

Is B-Dubs some kind of masochist that likes to grovel and be humiliated? And why is Cerium letting a coterie of buffoons blow up his forum?

A puffy pussy a day keeps my psychiatrist away
 

Topher

Gold Member
@Xaero Gravity sorry if I'm ignorant, but who's Black Chamber Black Chamber ?

Cliff Notes version:

Black Chamber created the OT for Cyberpunk 2077 on resetera.
Resetera has declared CPDR a transphobic company
Certain resetera members hijacked Black Chamber's Cyberpunk 2077 OT
Shit went down
Black Chamber was banned
Hijackers were praised
Now he is here

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teezzy

Banned
Just read that supposedly the only transphobic issue in the game is that poster they have been going on about?

It's fucking hilarious in a way that they have been losing their shit for MONTHS over a poster that maybe 0.001% of the players will think more than 5 seconds about upon seeing it.

The worst part is that it's not even something that's ostensibly malicious. Like if you interpret the image in some hackneyed way... I guess?! Even that feels like a stretch. I'm not transgendered so I dont want to speak on anyone's behalf, but I doubt there was any ill intent there.
 
Unironically, I say Trans people are human too and shouldn’t be villainized.
Believe me, they’re just like me and you. Dealing with life and daily routines.

I just want to say that Era doesn’t portray all Trans people. What it does, is portraying them in bad light.

It mostly portrays them as crazy, super dramatic, bullies and assholes, it also doesn’t help that some of them think they’re center of the universe just because of their sexuality. Half of them are larping and cis white males(as Era likes to say very much) think they’re King of Trans after talking with them for two days. You know exactly what I mean...

Put Era and those loons aside. Don’t let them make you hateful like themselves.
Trans people deserve to live a good life and be treated fairly.

Era =/= all Trans folk

Peace💯🤘🏻🙏🏻

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The worst part is that it's not even something that's ostensibly malicious. Like if you interpret the image in some hackneyed way... I guess?! Even that feels like a stretch. I'm not transgendered so I dont want to speak on anyone's behalf, but I doubt there was any ill intent there.
Quite literally the only outwardly transphobic thing you could maybe point to was an ill advised "Did you assume my gender?" tweet from fucking over a year ago. A tweet that was deleted, apologized for and the dude who tweeted it was doxxed and hounded by Era until he was fired.
 
Just read that supposedly the only transphobic issue in the game is that poster they have been going on about?

It's fucking hilarious in a way that they have been losing their shit for MONTHS over a poster that maybe 0.001% of the players will think more than 5 seconds about upon seeing it.

They're closet transphobes

it's absolutely criminal that transexuals have larger dicks than them. That's all
 
I'm sure they'll find something to attack the game with, after they all play their gifted codes and used copies in the name of investigative reporting
I really got a good laugh at Kyuuji for trading in her ideals and morals by simply HAVING to play the game (under the guise of a trans lens)

Sure thing hun, just admit you want to play the damn game and you're excited for it. There's nothing wrong with that.
 

Dampf

Member
Unironically, I say Trans people are human too and shouldn’t be villainized.
Believe me, they’re just like me and you. Dealing with life and daily routines.

I just want to say that Era doesn’t portray all Trans people. What it does, is portraying them in bad light.

It mostly portrays them as crazy, super dramatic, bullies and assholes, it also doesn’t help that some of them think they’re center of the universe just because of their sexuality. Half of them are larping and cis white males(as Era likes to say very much) think they’re King of Trans after talking with them for two days. You know exactly what I mean...

Put Era and those loons aside. Don’t let them make you hateful like themselves.
Trans people deserve to live a good life and be treated fairly.

Era =/= all Trans folk

Peace💯🤘🏻🙏🏻

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Couldn't agree more!

Trans and of course black people too, are very welcome here, I think I speak for the vast majority of GAF here. :messenger_heart:

Black Lives Matter!

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Quite literally the only outwardly transphobic thing you could maybe point to was an ill advised "Did you assume my gender?" tweet from fucking over a year ago. A tweet that was deleted, apologized for and the dude who tweeted it was doxxed and hounded by Era until he was fired.
Considering this is pretty much just a jab a pronoun nazis on twitter... Calling this "outwardly transphobic" is quite the stretch.

Congratulations to Era staff for allowing lunatics to blow up their forum over a nothingburger.
 

LordCBH

Member
Resetera is really overestimating it's importance in the grand scheme of the internet if they think people go there for shit other than gaming talk. The literal second they close up the gaming section, which they are absolutely going to do, they will lose at least 85% of their entire member base.

no way in hell they’ll close it. But they’ll make it so sterile and worthless that it would be better off closed. They use it as a honey trap to get rid of the undesirables.
 
Unironically, I say Trans people are human too and shouldn’t be villainized.
Believe me, they’re just like me and you. Dealing with life and daily routines.

I just want to say that Era doesn’t portray all Trans people. What it does, is portraying them in bad light.

It mostly portrays them as crazy, super dramatic, bullies and assholes, it also doesn’t help that some of them think they’re center of the universe just because of their sexuality. Half of them are larping and cis white males(as Era likes to say very much) think they’re King of Trans after talking with them for two days. You know exactly what I mean...

Put Era and those loons aside. Don’t let them make you hateful like themselves.
Trans people deserve to live a good life and be treated fairly.

Era =/= all Trans folk

Peace💯🤘🏻🙏🏻

Absolutely this. It's easy to fall into this trap if you don't know anyone outside of era who is trans. There are plenty of great trans people who are put out by the radicals on places like era.

I have a trans friend who frankly says a lot worse about that bunch on era than anything I've seen posted here on gaf. But they wouldn't dare say anything publicly because it's way more drama than it's worth.

I think a lot of the bitterness on era comes from people who don't just want to transition, be accepted and live their lives happily. They want to use it to make people as miserable as possible because they themselves are not happy and cannot be happy - for reasons unrelated to their gender/sexuality of choice. It's just a shield for them to weaponise their other agendas a lot of the time and to make the conversation be about them as much as possible. These are very sad, broken, needy people who need help but go about it all the wrong ways and thought literally just throwing a dress on one day and making demands was going to fix everything for them (I really do mean that literally - the nerdy guys who have made zero effort to transition or portray any form of femininity/behaviours beyond grabbing their mums old dress and pulling it over their zelda t-shirts blows my mind).

A lot of them refuse to look within themselves to make any meaningful changes - and just want the world to make sense to them by being protected from everything and silencing any possible threat to their deluded perception of society/reality. But that cannot and will not ever be the case. I wish they could be happy - but the road they go down leads purely to madness. I wish them all the best and hope that they grow up down the line and can find happiness. But what I will not do is pander to irrational demands of a vocal minority who have let's face it - latched onto this hobby as a crutch for their agenda.
 
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To be clear, when i mentioned the CDPR gender tweet, I meant it was the only thing you could stretch and maybe point to as transphobic, I think the uproar over it is patently insane.

no way in hell they’ll close it. But they’ll make it so sterile and worthless that it would be better off closed. They use it as a honey trap to get rid of the undesirables.
Nah dude, I get your idea, but I really think this shit has been rumbling for a while now. I've seen people ask about it on Era even before this went down, when CyberPunk drops and everyone hypes it up and ignore the tut tutting of the usual suspects all it's gonna take is someone to bring up the Ubisoft shit and the ND shit and some out of context posts and tweets and use the grist they get from this incident and the mods will totally bow down and shutter the gaming section.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Absolutely this. It's easy to fall into this trap if you don't know anyone outside of era who is trans. There are plenty of great trans people who are put out by the radicals on places like era.

I have a trans friend who frankly says a lot worse about that bunch on era than anything I've seen posted here on gaf. But they wouldn't dare say anything publicly because it's way more drama than it's worth.

I think a lot of the bitterness on era comes from people who don't just want to transition, be accepted and live their lives happily. They want to use it to make people as miserable as possible because they themselves are not happy and cannot be happy - for reasons unrelated to their gender/sexuality of choice. It's just a shield for them to weaponise their other agendas a lot of the time and to make the conversation be about them as much as possible. These are very sad, broken, needy people who need help but go about it all the wrong ways and thought literally just throwing a dress on one day and making demands was going to fix everything for them (I really do mean that literally - the nerdy guys who have made zero effort to transition or portray any form of femininity/behaviours beyond grabbing their mums old dress and pulling it over their zelda t-shirts blows my mind).

A lot of them refuse to look within themselves to make any meaningful changes - and just want the world to make sense to them by being protected from everything and silencing any possible threat to their deluded perception of society/reality. But that cannot and will not ever be the case. I wish they could be happy - but the road they go down leads purely to madness. I wish them all the best and hope that they grow up down the line and can find happiness. But what I will not do is pander to irrational demands of a vocal minority who have let's face it - latched onto this hobby as a crutch for their agenda.
Lots of it’s not even that deep - it’s mostly just sad, lonely, incels, who no one ever pays attention to because they’re losers - especially women - so they use this as a way of getting attention. If you don’t give them the attention they so crave more than anything then they can get even more attention by rallying the online outrage mob because you’re now a transphobic for not caring about them.

That’s all it is really. They crave attention because they’ve never received it, and the easiest way to get attention is to yell and screech about being a minority in this woke era we live in now.
 

Ymir

Member
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Watch out guys, we've got a badass here.

There's no room in hell for this wrath, just like there's no room in Reeee for anyone who just wants to talk about video games.
HAHAHAHA What is that fake troon going to do? Write more than the 19 page mental breakdown that Shiron did? These are the typical losers growing up in school that only talked massive shit when no one was around so there were no repercussions.
 

Dabaus

Banned
What makes me sad about this situation is that unfortunately Resetera has big influence and power among gaming industry.

They have that power, yikes.

This is the concerning thing here. Although i dont think the game publishers look at that insane asylum and think "lets cater to them," its that restera types have infiltrated game companies.
 

Legit question here:

Why do some many gaming journalists fucking despise both the medium they report on and the entire reading base they cater to? This isn't like working at Subway where you do it to make money and can actively hate the product, this is a specialized field that pays banks but they still have utter disdain for everything about it.

Fucking review movies, review books, review fucking YOUTUBE videos, why force yourself to work in a field you utterly hate with a passion?
 

Dick Jones

Gold Member

Crunch to play a video games? Fuck off with that shit, that can't be true. (obviously not you A Regular Guy A Regular Guy and sophnar0747 sophnar0747 )
There is legitimate crunch in the gaming industry and these spasticated spanners are delegitimising their complaints.
I didn't realise that plagiarising other reviews, having difficulty with tutorials and shilling like a whore would cause so much strain.
Glorified bloggers.
 
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BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I’m not one to talk as I’ve used the word but tranny shouldn’t be said, imo. It’s a legit slur and just makes the community look bad and cut off potential new members who find it offensive, which is a perfectly reasonable response. Same deal in the real world. People from across the spectrum find it offensive, not just trans and liberals. I don’t think there should be bans for it but it’s really not a big deal to just say trans.

I'm trying to clean up my trans talk. I am a bit cavalier when it comes to the trans jokes (and I also didn't know "tranny" was a slur). Truth is I have nothing against trans people, a good acquaintance is a transitioned trans woman. I currently work with another (back when we still had to go into the office, anyway). I just don't like the hyper aggressive, cartoonish minority version of them that plague Ree. I am not sold that even half of them are genuinely trans - they come off as confused, mentally ill hyper-angry villains that give normal (for lack of a better word) trans people a bad name. You know, people just living their life but happen to be trans.
 
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graywolf323

Member
B-dubs continues to placate the crazies.


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Yes, we are now officially going to dig into members social media.


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"we must weed out the evil conservatives that infest our ranks!"

GTFO

trans rights are human rights

black lives matter

fuck white supremacy

there's no such thing as a good republican

conservatism is a cancer

this is the lie Era was founded on, that you wouldn't get banned for being a Republican/conservative & they can't claim Trump changed that since Era was founded AFTER Trump

but this stupidity is rampant on Era (as shown by B-Dubs post as well) and enforced by the heads of the site, they're basically pushing the only good conservative is a dead conservative
 

Arimer

Member
Legit question here:

Why do some many gaming journalists fucking despise both the medium they report on and the entire reading base they cater to? This isn't like working at Subway where you do it to make money and can actively hate the product, this is a specialized field that pays banks but they still have utter disdain for everything about it.

Fucking review movies, review books, review fucking YOUTUBE videos, why force yourself to work in a field you utterly hate with a passion?

If i had to guess it's because they didn't aim to be games journalists thats where they ended up. I would imagine they went into writing thinking they'd be the next big thing and found out they are a dime a dozen. So they get paid 50k a year or whatever to basically be the PR arm of an industry that doesn't need them which leads to them feeling unfulfilled and empty. ITs why so many want to write about the most minor of injustice they perceive in a game. Because then they can claim their work has meaning.
 
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kiryani

Member
Crunch is part of the gaming industry, it’s like complaining butchers have to kill animals against their will.

If I signed up to be a dev/tester I would know crunch is part of the job.

Why are people so desperate to be offended on other people’s behalf. These guys know the career they’re in, it’s not like they’re forced to work in this industry because they can’t get a job anywhere else, they’re fairly highly coveted jobs
 

El_Cinefilo

Member
What I still don't really get about it all is just how much the knives are out for Cyberpunk on that site and for how long. There's been tens of thousands of posts over years protesting about Cyberpunks trans issues, people calling for discussion of the game and studio to be banned. Every thread where people try to discuss the game gets derailed with people drive by shit posting protesting the game, despite there being disclaimers everywhere and dedicated stickied threads to discuss the games issues.

When you look at it, the controversy seems to pretty much all be from some smart ass who has access to Cyberpunks twitter making a few poor edgy jokes. Sonic the Hedgehog's twitter has probably tweeted more bad transphobic stuff. In CDPR's case they actually fired the person responsible though.

By the time the "Mix it Up" poster was revealed Era had already sentenced the game and decided they knew everything about it. It seems like in this dystopian future everything is hyper sexualised and Trans people are just as much as everyone else, in an equal way. Maybe that's not the case, but the game isn't out yet to find out.

The character creator controversy is probably the most ridiculous of all. The character creator in CP2077 seems to be one of the most fluid and customizable ever seen in a AAA game, but because the voice overs are tied to the gender (unlike most other games where it's simply male body or female body, each with their own appropriate voices) it's unacceptably transphobic? really?

I'm not saying Cyberpunk is above criticism, or there is no reason for concern that the game (which isn't even out yet) might be problematic, But Era doesn't allow discussion on those potential issues, just dogpiling based on assumptions, Pretty much anything that might be perceived as anything other than an attack on CDPR is handed a swift ban.

It's kind of baffling that they think that's the best way to deal with things.
 
If i had to guess it's because they didn't aim to be games journalists thats where they ended up. I would imagine they went into writing thinking they'd be the next big thing and found out they are a dime a dozen. So they get paid 50k a year or whatever to basically be the PR arm of an industry that doesn't need them which leads to them feeling unfulfilled and empty. ITs why so many want to write about the most minor of injustice they perceive in a game. Because then they can claim their work has meaning.
But what gets me is that reviews are not the be all end all of gaming journalism. I'd never want to work there, but I'd love to do deep dives on older weird games, guys like Civvie11, Spoony before he went mad, Critikal and other make/made bank by exploring lesser known/explored topics and truly enjoyed themselves and were darlings. I just don't get how none of them cannot find anything fun or interesting to talk about.
 
If i had to guess it's because they didn't aim to be games journalists thats where they ended up. I would imagine they went into writing thinking they'd be the next big thing and found out they are a dime a dozen. So they get paid 50k a year or whatever to basically be the PR arm of an industry that doesn't need them which leads to them feeling unfulfilled and empty. ITs why so many want to write about the most minor of injustice they perceive in a game. Because then they can claim their work has meaning.

C'mon man, sure they wanted to be games journalists. That's very kid's dream. Some go and pursue it and I'm sure there are no shortage of takers for a job that involves playing videogames and then writing 2,000 words of copy. People do that on here for free. Not to say that it's an easy job or whatever, I understand that making your hobby your employment takes the fun out of it to an extent, deadlines are deadlines and I'm sure they work long hours from time to time (like most of us) but it's still a job that people want to do.
 

Ymir

Member
Black Chamber has now leveled up to Neo Nazi

Ashodin said:
mentok15 said:
I'm a little shocked that they were a full MAGA arse.
Way deeper than that, a neonazi too

The person who buys women has more to say about this issue

messofanego said:
All of this. The staff needs to action to get rid of respectability politics. It benefits the privileged. There's a reason why neo Nazis mainstreamed themselves with more civil language and dressing sharp, because they knew respectability politics works with the moderates and liberals who care more about civility, order, and negative peace than doing the hard thing and fighting. I'm gonna do the thing where I drop the MLK Jr quote but it's a bit longer than the usual paragraph used about white moderates because it addresses combating white supremacy with not just words:

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity."

Awkwardly dropping MLK quotes on a "video game" message board for woke points is kind of gross


Now they want Vestan banned since he's clearly a transphobic CDPR employee and was part of the black ops deceit by Black Chamber
MinusTydus said:
So did Vestan un-volunteer the one-month ban now that Black Chamber has been dusted?

Gotta have that "unofficial" (in that you can't prove anything) CDPR rep presence on the site, eh?

Does he no longer feel sorry now? Change of heart?

(Not asking you, Mewn, question is for the staff).

First of all, right after the thread is posted, Black Chamber will be taking a one month ban to acknowledge the role that his communication (and lack thereof) played in things escalating as far as they have. I want to make it clear that the staff did not propose this; Black Chamber himself wants to serve this ban to show that he's serious about being sorry and about wanting to support the trans community. Vestan has also asked to extend his ban to a month for the same reason.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Crunch is part of the gaming industry, it’s like complaining butchers have to kill animals against their will.

If I signed up to be a dev/tester I would know crunch is part of the job.

Why are people so desperate to be offended on other people’s behalf. These guys know the career they’re in, it’s not like they’re forced to work in this industry because they can’t get a job anywhere else, they’re fairly highly coveted jobs

Crunch is part of almost every IT and tech job. Long-ass hours as any project looms or goes live/production is also part of the job. I get that many game developers have to crunch more often and get paid less than they would using the same exact skills in other industries, but hey, they chose that life. They could unionize or get out of the industry. I am sympathetic, but only to a point.
 
Black Chamber has now leveled up to Neo Nazi



The person who buys women has more to say about this issue



Awkwardly dropping MLK quotes on a "video game" message board for woke points is kind of gross


Now they want Vestan banned since he's clearly a transphobic CDPR employee and was part of the black ops deceit by Black Chamber
How can they so freely cast these aspersions? Isn't this libelous?
 

Ymir

Member
Crunch is part of almost every IT and tech job. Long-ass hours as any project looms or goes live/production is also part of the job. I get that many game developers have to crunch more often and get paid less than they would using the same exact skills in other industries, but hey, they chose that life. They could unionize or get out of the industry. I am sympathetic, but only to a point.
Crunch is a part of most salary positions. Any major project/delivery to client that is behind schedule always has people working past their "normal" hours.
 
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