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Paulxo87

Member
There are chinks in the armor on the other side and they are destined for destruction. There was one ridiculous thread over there earlier this week where someone was upset that the prisoner characters in spiderman were not politically correct. You could see some people in there just openly mocking the thread as ridiculous. I'm seeing it more and more over there. I'm also seeing a lot more life over here on neogaf. They are all coming back.. slowly but surely lol.
 

regawdless

Banned
There are chinks in the armor on the other side and they are destined for destruction. There was one ridiculous thread over there earlier this week where someone was upset that the prisoner characters in spiderman were not politically correct. You could see some people in there just openly mocking the thread as ridiculous. I'm seeing it more and more over there. I'm also seeing a lot more life over here on neogaf. They are all coming back.. slowly but surely lol.

The horror. Let's pray not all will come back.
 
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Kerotan

Member
There are chinks in the armor on the other side and they are destined for destruction. There was one ridiculous thread over there earlier this week where someone was upset that the prisoner characters in spiderman were not politically correct. You could see some people in there just openly mocking the thread as ridiculous. I'm seeing it more and more over there. I'm also seeing a lot more life over here on neogaf. They are all coming back.. slowly but surely lol.
That thread was just retarded. Some people just like complaining and not being happy. It's just so happened many of them congregated over there.
 

Paulxo87

Member
That thread was just retarded. Some people just like complaining and not being happy. It's just so happened many of them congregated over there.

Never in my life have I ever seen something so pathetic. It was even too pathetic for many of the users commenting lol. Some of these clowns are demented beyond repair.
 
I’ve been addressing old injustices one by one for the past three years. That would be a giant waste of time if abusive authoritarian moderation were tolerated going forward.
As members of a community that thrives on debate it's common to believe we all have a say in what goes on, its direction etc.

Except, by their very nature, internet discussion boards are not democracies, they are far closer to monarchies.
And in this regard we have some very good examples of fair and just rule here, and plenty that show where such principles are absent elsewhere.

[insert Monty Python reference about women in lakes distributing swords here]
 

Humdinger

Member
Listen, if I went around saying that I was Emperor because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.

I remember listening to this skit on old phonograph records when I was a kid and memorizing the lines. I loved how witty the language was. Decades later, I can still remember it. In fact, when I walk by a neighborhood house where a dog named Arthur lives, I often say to myself, "Arthur, King of the Britains... King of the who?" and then launch into a little rehearsal of the sketch. Neighbors probably wonder what I'm muttering and laughing about.

p.s. Here's the obligatory video, for anyone who doesn't know what the heck we're talking about:




"Help help, I'm being repressed." lol
 
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Karunamon

Member
Good stuff. I like the fact that people put effort into posts here so they are better articulated than something like a YouTube comment. At the same time people don't get into mad deep arguments here.

glances over at the supreme court thread

Yeah.. heh.. no mad deep arguments here..
 
Post screenshots of resetera posting screenshots and mocking so we can mock the screenshots of resetera mocking screenshots of here. Meta af bro.

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It was from twitter user, "Reset era hot takes" or something. I knew that site was a cesspool, but holyshit. After looking at their moderator supported hot takes, I would support almost literally anything they oppose- They are like diametrically opposed to truth/justice/civility, etc.
A lot of them seem pretty unstable. I feel like there's a new "I'm giving up on life" thread every week.
 
Not sure where to ask this exactly, but as someone who used ResetEra a lot, my go-to place has always been Latest Threads, which was the best way to stay up-to-date with announcements, trailers and such. Maybe I'm blind but I don't see such an option on Gaf? Latest activity refers to any activity in any thread, old or new. New posts also includes new content in old threads. Individual categories' pages tend to bury small threads as the big ones get more activity. Found a way to do it for each category by sorting them per "first message", but is there a single page where you can get all the latest threads from all categories?
 
The speed at which resetera turned from the promised land into the sewers of the internet was impressive.

I know not everyone agrees, and there's folks more knowledgeable about me about how the split went down (I managed to make a Gaf account around 2 months before it happened, so I was a newb here), but I still stand by the fact that the first 6-12 months of Era were pretty great. There were issues, but there was also a staff that legitimately seemed to believe in the policies they touted, they were open and receptive to suggestions and requests, and you could easily have even controversial discussions without ban graveyards and mods continously tone policing. I used to make plenty of threads back then because they resulted in some excellent discussions, even when folks didn't agree with me.

Fast forward to even 2019, let alone this mess of a 2020, and it's unrecognizeable. Staff ignores requests and suggestions, they ban anyone based on prejudices, they need to police every discussion to make sure nobody disagrees too much, every thread therefore results in everyone posting variations of the same thing because they don't want to get dogpiled on or banned for a different view. Era was at no point perfect, but compared to 2020 Era, 2017-2018 Era was almost paradise.
 

Codiox

Member
I know not everyone agrees, and there's folks more knowledgeable about me about how the split went down (I managed to make a Gaf account around 2 months before it happened, so I was a newb here), but I still stand by the fact that the first 6-12 months of Era were pretty great. There were issues, but there was also a staff that legitimately seemed to believe in the policies they touted, they were open and receptive to suggestions and requests, and you could easily have even controversial discussions without ban graveyards and mods continously tone policing. I used to make plenty of threads back then because they resulted in some excellent discussions, even when folks didn't agree with me.

Fast forward to even 2019, let alone this mess of a 2020, and it's unrecognizeable. Staff ignores requests and suggestions, they ban anyone based on prejudices, they need to police every discussion to make sure nobody disagrees too much, every thread therefore results in everyone posting variations of the same thing because they don't want to get dogpiled on or banned for a different view. Era was at no point perfect, but compared to 2020 Era, 2017-2018 Era was almost paradise.
yeah thats what i felt too.

in 2017 they had the right mindset, it looked like it will work.

i only noticed the shitshow this year tbh but they have truly lost the way of what was the idea of Era in first place.

but as i was saying in the other thread Era never felt like GAF. there is just something special about this place here.

Maybe you were already a lurker here on GAF arround 2013 but that was something special for me. The hype and release of the PS4.

Every E3 was a event arround here with all the hype and the reaction gifs. i get never tired of that.

i hope i will see this here again.
 
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S73v3

Banned
The politics side of this forum is a shit streak for sure, what a mess, but the gaming side and off topic seem pretty nice.

I've been lurking for more than 7 years, seemed like a nice time to join.
 
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Fredrik

Member
I appreciate that there is a place where I can talk about games without every thread ending in toxic discussions and odd bans.

I have no issues with anyone, I just want to talk about games with people outside of my tiny country.

For me it’s complicated enough to deal with a language barrier and it’s even worse if the mods are also searching some hidden meaning in otherwise polite, but probably badly written, posts. Everything can be a mine field.

So I’m really glad the mods here are more laid back! 👌

Still haven’t got used to these new rules but I really like what I’ve seen so far, it’s a good chill spot 👍
 

TheSHEEEP

Gold Member
The politics side of this forum is a shit streak for sure, what a mess, but the gaming side and off topic seem pretty nice.
The politics side of every forum is a terrible place to be avoided at all cost - except if you feel like shitposting.
Even politicians suck at politics, everyone else can only increase their quality of life by not even engaging, IMO. I mostly stick to that rule, or try to, with only one place where I do much or any politics at all.

The difference is that here people generally stick to the topic of gaming in the gaming section and don't use every single thread for politics (as on Era, where this is actively encouraged).
Unfortunately, places like this are not too common. Most follow the route of Era or RPG.net in creating a hive mind where dissent (on political issues) will get you rekt.
 
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Humdinger

Member
Not sure where to ask this exactly, but as someone who used ResetEra a lot, my go-to place has always been Latest Threads, which was the best way to stay up-to-date with announcements, trailers and such. Maybe I'm blind but I don't see such an option on Gaf? Latest activity refers to any activity in any thread, old or new. New posts also includes new content in old threads. Individual categories' pages tend to bury small threads as the big ones get more activity. Found a way to do it for each category by sorting them per "first message", but is there a single page where you can get all the latest threads from all categories?

I don't think there is such an option here. I haven't seen it on other forums, either.

Personally, I stay away from "new posts" and "watched threads" because they contain content from across the board, including all the politics and off-topic threads, which don't interest me. I just go to the Gaming thread and scan down the first page, sometimes the second. I subscribe to a few threads that interest me, so I get notifications for them. If there are recently-created threads, they'll usually be there (unless they're low-activity, in which case they might've dropped to page 3 or 4 or beyond, where I might not see them).

But anyway, no, I don't think there's a one-button option to show only the most recently created threads.
 
yeah thats what i felt too.

in 2017 they had the right mindset, it looked like it will work.

i only noticed the shitshow this year tbh but they have truly lost the way of what was the idea of Era in first place.

but as i was saying in the other thread Era never felt like GAF. there is just something special about this place here.

Maybe you were already a lurker here on GAF arround 2013 but that was something special for me. The hype and release of the PS4.

Every E3 was a event arround here with all the hype and the reaction gifs. i get never tired of that.

i hope i will see this here again.

It's very hard to ever go back to that. Era's activity is fading and the moderation fucked up too hard for the site to recover. Gaf is growing, but it's hard to envision a level of activity like in 2017 or earlier. Places like GameFAQs or r/games are far too sparse and have no standards whatsoever, and thus nobody big really stays there. Likewise, it's hard to see a new player enter the fiel. Nowadays, discussion (gaming and otherwise) is spread out between a billion social networks, comment sections and such. Discord is where official communities seem to be moving, but you can't realistically have a well-managed general Discord for all things gaming: you'd need to have thousands of channels for everything to be covered, and things would just get buried hard.

It's too bad. May be an age thing, but to me discussion forums remain the best place to discuss gaming. What I'm getting these days on Gaf is great, but the relative lack of activity is showing. If I put the Gaming channel and sort them by time of thread posted, I see threads from 36 hours ago on page 1. Many of us stayed on Era for that reason: there is activity, and on discussions that didn't involve stuff mods were overly sensitive about, we could have great discussions, especially first year. That is what I'm finding here on Gaf, but aside from the big themes like Cyberpunk, it's hard to get enough activity sometimes for a good discussion. Maybe this will improve over time, as other places seem to deteriorate and this one keeps growing.
 
I don't think there is such an option here. I haven't seen it on other forums, either.

Personally, I stay away from "new posts" and "watched threads" because they contain content from across the board, including all the politics and off-topic threads, which don't interest me. I just go to the Gaming thread and scan down the first page, sometimes the second. I subscribe to a few threads that interest me, so I get notifications for them. If there are recently-created threads, they'll usually be there (unless they're low-activity, in which case they might've dropped to page 3 or 4 or beyond, where I might not see them).

But anyway, no, I don't think there's a one-button option to show only the most recently created threads.

Thank you! Frankly, it's more of a reflex thing from Era. I don't think I'll even bother too much with Off-Topic or Politics, but it would be nice to have them in one quick place. Could be a little suggestion for staff, not sure how hard would it be to implement.
 
This is factually false/incorrect.

Right, I just checked. Despite the stickied posts on top taking up various slots, the last two threads if ordered by First Comment (eg. thread creation time) are from... 35 hours ago, not 36.

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This isn't meant to be a "gotcha" moment on Gaf. It would be nice to have more activity in general, and it's great to see the site growing towards that.
 
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Right, I just checked. Despite the stickied posts on top taking up various slots, the last two threads if ordered by First Comment (eg. thread creation time) are from... 35 hours ago, not 36.

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This isn't meant to be a "gotcha" moment on Gaf. It would be nice to have more activity in general, and it's great to see the site growing towards that.
Why would you want to order the thread list by "creation time" though?

I'd rather have the active threads appear on the first page to see where the active discussions are taking place.

Plus, it's best members don't spam the "post thread" option for the sake of creating fresh new threads.

Quality > Quantity :messenger_bicep:
 
Why would you want to order the thread list by "creation time" though?

I'd rather have the active threads appear on the first page to see where the active discussions are taking place.

Plus, it's best members don't spam the "post thread" option for the sake of creating fresh new threads.

Quality > Quantity :messenger_bicep:

I agree, but at the same time, new discussions, new news, new trailers warrant new threads. Just because one isn't generating major discourse it does not mean it does not interest me. If you look at the ResetEra thread over here you see so many people (former users and lurkers alike) saying they used Era mainly as a news aggregator, and it was the same for me for the last months I was there. There's use in following new threads, even if the effective discussions happen elsewhere.

But I don't want to derail the thread further. Was just wondering if there was a way to do a Latest Threads like on Era, that's all.
 
I agree, but at the same time, new discussions, new news, new trailers warrant new threads. Just because one isn't generating major discourse it does not mean it does not interest me. If you look at the ResetEra thread over here you see so many people (former users and lurkers alike) saying they used Era mainly as a news aggregator, and it was the same for me for the last months I was there. There's use in following new threads, even if the effective discussions happen elsewhere.

But I don't want to derail the thread further. Was just wondering if there was a way to do a Latest Threads like on Era, that's all.
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cormack12

Gold Member
You can do this already via the RSS options. It looks like they've hidden the RSS button from the classic themes though


If you use a prettifier, you can paste that link above here and it gives you what you want. If you want it embedded as a forum view, I assume one of the admins or devs would need to use xmlcss to make it pretty or apply the same stylesheet? Until then you can create your own zap I guess
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
It's very hard to ever go back to that. Era's activity is fading and the moderation fucked up too hard for the site to recover. Gaf is growing, but it's hard to envision a level of activity like in 2017 or earlier. Places like GameFAQs or r/games are far too sparse and have no standards whatsoever, and thus nobody big really stays there. Likewise, it's hard to see a new player enter the fiel. Nowadays, discussion (gaming and otherwise) is spread out between a billion social networks, comment sections and such. Discord is where official communities seem to be moving, but you can't realistically have a well-managed general Discord for all things gaming: you'd need to have thousands of channels for everything to be covered, and things would just get buried hard.

It's too bad. May be an age thing, but to me discussion forums remain the best place to discuss gaming. What I'm getting these days on Gaf is great, but the relative lack of activity is showing. If I put the Gaming channel and sort them by time of thread posted, I see threads from 36 hours ago on page 1. Many of us stayed on Era for that reason: there is activity, and on discussions that didn't involve stuff mods were overly sensitive about, we could have great discussions, especially first year. That is what I'm finding here on Gaf, but aside from the big themes like Cyberpunk, it's hard to get enough activity sometimes for a good discussion. Maybe this will improve over time, as other places seem to deteriorate and this one keeps growing.
You're not the first to make these observation, that small forums are doomed.

As a fellow observer, I see it a bit differently. I think places like Facebook, Reddit, etc are hollowing out as users search for more meaningful conversation, a so-called Safe Space™ where opinions can be voiced without being cancelled by a mob of your peers. I've seen much much smaller forums than GAF picking up in traffic in the last 18 months, and half the new sign-ups seem to have the same story: sick of Reddit / facebook group / whatever drama and I just wanna talk about [subject].

That isn't to say all those people will come here, specifically. If GAF scraped even 1% of that social-media exodus traffic, this place would surpass 2017 levels without breaking a sweat. I signed up for GAF back in 2018 because I saw the rot in Reddit back then. Figured the best shot would be to invest time into specific forums, instead of giving traffic to these bloated megaforums with no inherent sense of community.
 
You can do this already via the RSS options. It looks like they've hidden the RSS button from the classic themes though


If you use a prettifier, you can paste that link above here and it gives you what you want. If you want it embedded as a forum view, I assume one of the admins or devs would need to use xmlcss to make it pretty or apply the same stylesheet? Until then you can create your own zap I guess
What a lazy prick :pie_dfws:

:messenger_heart:
 
You're not the first to make these observation, that small forums are doomed.

As a fellow observer, I see it a bit differently. I think places like Facebook, Reddit, etc are hollowing out as users search for more meaningful conversation, a so-called Safe Space™ where opinions can be voiced without being cancelled by a mob of your peers. I've seen much much smaller forums than GAF picking up in traffic in the last 18 months, and half the new sign-ups seem to have the same story: sick of Reddit / facebook group / whatever drama and I just wanna talk about [subject].

That isn't to say all those people will come here, specifically. If GAF scraped even 1% of that social-media exodus traffic, this place would surpass 2017 levels without breaking a sweat. I signed up for GAF back in 2018 because I saw the rot in Reddit back then. Figured the best shot would be to invest time into specific forums, instead of giving traffic to these bloated megaforums with no inherent sense of community.

Good post. I don't think they are necessarily doomed, but it's hard for them to reach the level of activity they had some years back, tons of people are accustomed to have these discussion on social media instead. Of course, there's heavy backlash against the way Facebook, Twitter and the likes moderate and treat your data, so it's not outside the realm of possibilities that forums will become more relevant again.
 

Maiden Voyage

Gold™ Member
Not sure where to ask this exactly, but as someone who used ResetEra a lot, my go-to place has always been Latest Threads, which was the best way to stay up-to-date with announcements, trailers and such. Maybe I'm blind but I don't see such an option on Gaf? Latest activity refers to any activity in any thread, old or new. New posts also includes new content in old threads. Individual categories' pages tend to bury small threads as the big ones get more activity. Found a way to do it for each category by sorting them per "first message", but is there a single page where you can get all the latest threads from all categories?

I use the Discord server for this function.
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
Good post. I don't think they are necessarily doomed, but it's hard for them to reach the level of activity they had some years back, tons of people are accustomed to have these discussion on social media instead. Of course, there's heavy backlash against the way Facebook, Twitter and the likes moderate and treat your data, so it's not outside the realm of possibilities that forums will become more relevant again.
A ton of people are accustomed to it, but a ton more people are on the internet compared to before. Facebook et al don't have to bleed out entirely -- or even "mostly" -- in order for places like GAF to grow. In either case, I'm glad to have folks like yourself who wanna just talk and enjoy a community instead of making every URL their personal soapbox.
 
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