Gunslinger
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I actually got my ps5 on that day. Knowing i was faster than 20 mil bots feels good! Take that machine!!!
You do realize neither of those things matter for bots right?
They're both already in place anyway.
Yep and that's what they should have done from the beginning.At this point, they should not even allow any purchases online to make sure all stores some up with ways to stop bots. They just need to do store purchases only and one per customer.
Yeah the picture captchas just kill me.Why the hell am I still constantly asked to click on crosswalks and traffic lights or figure out illegible words (which I usually get wrong like 5 times in a row) if bots can just ingore it?
In my opinion this whole PS5 release is a grand disaster. Sony surely knew how many units they got and they should prevent this whole situation by doing lottery or something? It would limit the bot activity and hamper some scalpers.
I like how you put the blame on consumers here. No one can buy from scalpers if scalpers don’t do their thing first.I mean the ideal solution is just for everyone to have self control and stop buying from scalpers, but
I like how you put the blame on consumers here. No one can buy from scalpers if scalpers don’t do their thing first.
It's just capitalism, yeah? <rolls eyes>I don't really blame the scalpers either. Buying cheap and selling high is the oldest business practice around.
It is on Sony/Microsoft and the retailers to find a way to keep this from happening if they deem it a problem. And if they don't deem it a problem, THAT is who you should be angred the most with.
Luckily genuine buyers can go into a store and buy one, bots can't.You forgot to mention that they also stopped genuine buyers from buying as well.
Let's not confuse incompetence and crappy web design for something else (i.e. "whoa they are actively blocking bots").
And scalpers wouldn't do their thing if they weren't enabled by consumers. That's just facts. You don't have to like it. I don't like it.I like how you put the blame on consumers here. No one can buy from scalpers if scalpers don’t do their thing first.
Is then why is ps5s selling at much higher price on ebay. Ps5 had alot more stock yet it is in much higher demand. Ms need to get thire shit togetherBoth are sold out at Walmart too, troll.
Only one item sale tied to a single credit card.this is crazy, but what is a feasible alternative?
Why the hell am I still constantly asked to click on crosswalks and traffic lights or figure out illegible words (which I usually get wrong like 5 times in a row) if bots can just ingore it?
Only one item sale tied to a single credit card.
And scalpers wouldn't do their thing if they weren't enabled by consumers. That's just facts. You don't have to like it. I don't like it.
I mean the ideal solution is just for everyone to have self control and stop buying from scalpers, but
Only one item tied an a shipping address, no PO Boxes.Only one item sale tied to a single credit card.
Didn't know you can produce disposable cardsThat's already how it's done.
You realize they can automatically produce a one time use disposable card number at the time of purchase.
Didn't know you can produce disposable cards
But I think you can block this type of cards since some shop or service already block debit cards, so I think it's not impossible.
MS is selling everything they ship. It took me over a month to find an XSX. Hell, even the Series S sells out just as quickly.Is then why is ps5s selling at much higher price on ebay. Ps5 had alot more stock yet it is in much higher demand. Ms need to get thire shit together
YepYou only blamed the consumers though:
That's not what we're talking about.Drug Dealers are to blame?
Drug Buyers are to blame?
Both are to blame?
Yes you do.I don't know what you want from me dude.
Only if you believe it.You want me to say "scalping is bad"?
Of course it is.Yeah, it's a disgusting practice,
Created by consumers?and a monster that was created by the consumers who continue to enable it.
The same thing that would happen without the enabler: the product would not be sold at a marked up price. It takes two to tango.What would happen without the scalper?
Well actually with the scalpers and without the consumers the scalpers would still be buying up lots of stock. Without the scalper the stock would be on store shelves and then consumers could buy it at MSRP. No consumer WANTS to pay the huge markup.The same thing that would happen without the enabler: the product would not be sold at a marked up price. It takes two to tango.
What's silly is that you go out of your way to blame consumers FIRST and FOREMOST and say nothing about the scalpers until you are pushed on it.You seem like you think I'm pro-scalper because I'm able to acknowledge that the consumers aren't blameless in this. That's pretty silly.
The scalpers are buying lots of stock because the consumers have consistently taught them that they will buy scalped stuff. Hence enabling giving way to the 'monster' that scalping has become.Well actually with the scalpers and without the consumers the scalpers would still be buying up lots of stock. Without the scalper the stock would be on store shelves and then consumers could buy it at MSRP. No consumer WANTS to pay the huge markup.
Should I also say that the sky is blue in every post I make, just to avoid someone jumping down my throat about something obvious?What's silly is that you go out of your way to blame consumers FIRST and FOREMOST and say nothing about the scalpers until you are pushed on it.
Nah not me but that doesn't make me dislike scalpers any less.Have you bought scalped stuff before or something? Is that why you're so defensive about the people who give scalpers money they don't deserve?
We have that in common. What we don't have in common is the level of sympathy we have towards people who do stupid shit without thinking about long-term consequences.Nah not me but that doesn't make me dislike scalpers any less.
I just think the consumers who pay those prices would prefer to buy it at MSRP at a reputable retail outlet if they could. If scalpers took 1000 consoles off of store shelves, that's 1000 people who can't buy it at MSRP.We have that in common. What we don't have in common is the level of sympathy we have towards people who do stupid shit without thinking about long-term consequences.
But they can buy it at MSRP from a reputable retailer, if they're patient. And they should. They should have done it last gen too, and the gen before.I just think the consumers who pay those prices would prefer to buy it at MSRP at a reputable retail outlet if they could. If scalpers took 1000 consoles off of store shelves, that's 1000 people who can't buy it at MSRP.
He is literally comparing drug addicts and dealers to Timmy getting a Ps5. So yeah...That's not what we're talking about.
I don't know what you want from me dude. You want me to say "scalping is bad"? Yeah, it's a disgusting practice, and a monster that was created by the consumers who continue to enable it. I don't have anything else to say on the matter.