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[DF] Hitman 3 PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Comparison

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Are you reading? I was talking about the video title.
Why they never claimed victory for a particular platform in the video title before the XSX actually scored one? They had tons of chances to make videos with "A PS5 advantage" in title.
This is simpy an undeniable fact that showcases the true colors/preferences that some people have.
I already stated that for me this is human and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just stupid to deny it.

I'm absolutely befuddled how any of you you can look at the title of a single video as evidence of a bias that would be so pervasive in a popular YouTube channel like DF that we should categorically dismiss any results coming from that channel as unreliable, simply because our preferred platform hasn't come out on top. Perhaps they simply decided to indicate a clear winner in the titles because people here and on social media were so vastly misinterpreting and misrepresenting the data presented in their comparatives.
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Having a platform preference doesn't indicate bias of the kind that would cause one to falsify comparative videos. Stating something like that absent evidence, whether it's directed at NXGamer or Digital Foundry, is a big indication that no one should take anything you say seriously.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
The only thing i would like to see is why people keep stating that @NXGamer is somehow a biased reviewer.

If you are going to accuse someone, can you please link or show evidence of it. From the videos i have watched he does not show any favoritism to sony when he is reviewing games.

His work is often more detailed than Df, perhaps it's in that he finds more things, that some sets of fans do not like?
There were lots of games that ran better on one x than the pro and I never seen one of his videos where it showed this. I maybe wrong and happy to stand corrected.

in fairness to him I would say the hardcore Sony fans post his videos so much on here that you know it’s always gonna show a few FPS here and there more on ps than Xbox so it could be that.

happy to be corrected
 

assurdum

Banned
I'm absolutely befuddled how any of you you can look at the title of a single video as evidence of a bias that would be so pervasive in a popular YouTube channel like DF that we should categorically dismiss any results coming from that channel as unreliable, simply because our preferred platform hasn't come out on top. Perhaps they simply decided to indicate a clear winner in the titles because people here and on social media were so vastly misinterpreting and misrepresenting the data presented in their comparatives.
XujrOTr.png


Having a platform preference doesn't indicate bias of the kind that would cause one to falsify comparative videos. Stating something like that absent evidence, whether it's directed at NXGamer or Digital Foundry, is a big indication that no one should take anything you say seriously.

But still anyone on DF asking why suddenly Hitman 3 has such gap on ps5 in this multiplat when it's never happened before; That's a big problem if you forget to put in the contest every single tech aspect because are too much busy to praise the other platform over everything. Can we talk for a second about the glacier engine? What exactly has of so sophisticated to run at 1800p on ps5 compared the series X?
 
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sircaw

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There were lots of games that ran better on one x than the pro and I never seen one of his videos where it showed this. I maybe wrong and happy to stand corrected.

in fairness to him I would say the hardcore Sony fans post his videos so much on here that you know it’s always gonna show a few FPS here and there more on ps than Xbox so it could be that.

happy to be corrected
I am not sure what people want tbh, he sounds like he is damned if he does and dammed if he doesn't.

This reminds me of CNN and Fox news. I just want the god damn news, i don't want either's slant on it, i just want the facts.

I think extreme Xbox fans might be getting upset because he's not going all Bloody Mary and singing from the roof tops about one console trouncing the other.

geordiemp geordiemp is a fan

 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
Where he said it's a big thing? They are Xbox partisan and that's it. Why deny that?

I honestly think people go into the videos looking for bias, on both sides.

doesn’t mean there is, like I said DF have praised the ps5 a hell of a lot but people seem to forget that. Also when ps5 was running games better they pointed it out
 

JackMcGunns

Member
They praise it over the Xbox hardware? And how many times they did the contrary?


Praise should go where it's deserved. When they were doing Xbox One X analysis, they said things how they were, Xbox One X is a great piece of hardware, and now that the PS5 is doing well, they're doing exactly that, praising it.

What did you expect? for them to be biased and randomly praise a preferred platform?
 

thelastword

Banned
This is getting embarrassing. Dude you 100% have a bias and play into it in your videos. Acting like you're above that makes you look like a huge fanboy who gets pouty when people say that bias exists.
And I assume, you also believe that DF has no bias.?

One clearly shows their bias, obsfucating detail, having select eagle eyed syndrome. Nxgamer on the other hand brings the eye for detail in every single face off. He has never tried to hide effects or advantages of PS or Xbox over the other. In his analysis, there is always something that he observed or demonstrates through visual cues that was not seen or highlighted elsewhere.

That is not bias, that is showing the entire picture. I imagine many here would prefer if he had selective eagled eye amnesia. Had it not been for Nx, we would have never known what really happened in Far cry 4 on both platforms. Even this gen, we would have never seen the wide disparity he showed in Dirt, shown the better RT in COD or the better Rayshafts in AC Valhalla on PS5. This is a man consistently showing the real differences and not skipping any detail.

He has also never forwarded FUD on any console. Not Xbox or PS. He never entered the no hardware RT, 8Tf at best machine or neither did he expect a gulf so wide between PS5 and Xbox, that he is still dumbfounded on PS5 's actual performance. Any rookie in this industry could have told you that TF don't mean everything, especially with how much more custom the architecture of PS5 was/is vs Xbox. It's also the reason why Nxgamer, a veteran of the industry is not at all surprised when PS5 takes pole position in faceoffs.

This is simply a case of persons who overhyped without thought or logic want now to deflect all valid questions in tech and are still perplexed by PS5's overall performance. Should clue you in as to who the more technical minds are vs persons driven by bias and fanboyism. Tech guys want to see all stats, test all scenarios. Biased persons and fanboys will want to hide details, deride persons asking for receipts because there might be discovery that is opposed to their conclusions and biases.
 

assurdum

Banned
I honestly think people go into the videos looking for bias, on both sides.

doesn’t mean there is, like I said DF have praised the ps5 a hell of a lot but people seem to forget that. Also when ps5 was running games better they pointed it out
They can deny facts. I'm not bias to favour a brand, their choice. But when this thing affect their analysis, it's quite irritating.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
They can deny facts. I'm not bias to favour a brand, their choice. But when this thing affect their analysis, it's quite irritating.

how is it effecting analysis? They easily called out Xbox on a lot games.

like I said people go in thinking they are biased they will always see it that way.
 

JackMcGunns

Member
And I assume, you also believe that DF has no bias.?

One clearly shows their bias, obsfucating detail, having select eagle eyed syndrome. Nxgamer on the other hand brings the eye for detail in every single face off. He has never tried to hide effects or advantages of PS or Xbox over the other. In his analysis, there is always something that he observed or demonstrates through visual cues that was not seen or highlighted elsewhere.
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Except he focuses on titles that have an advantage on PlayStation while often times ignoring when Xbox has the advantage.

Similar to how you were constantly posting PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X every time PS4 Pro had an advantage, but only when PS4 Pro had an advantage despite it being rare lol. That's what being biased is all about.
 

assurdum

Banned
Praise should go where it's deserved. When they were doing Xbox One X analysis, they said things how they were, Xbox One X is a great piece of hardware, and now that the PS5 is doing well, they're doing exactly that, praising it.

What did you expect? for them to be biased and randomly praise a preferred platform?
Don't say bullshit please. They downplay the ps5 hardware specs every single time they can. Leadbetter continue to spread disinformation around the variable frequency even lately. Just John Linneman praise it when he can.
 
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assurdum

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You're telling me not to say bullshit, but say bullshit on the very next sentence?
Uh did you seen at least what they said about the variable frequency? The level of idiocy they reached is something else. Even lately Leadbetter persist to say Days are gone can't runs at higher setting because cpu hasn't enough space by the gpu. Variable frequency not means that.
 
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assurdum

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well maybe, we could get the exact same results.
I think you missed my point. It's not all about power difference. And to be fair the power difference it's not "exactly" in line with the gap expected between the 2 in Hitman 3. That's why they should at least try to contact I/O (how they did for Dirt 5) to see what's changed compared the other multiplat released until now.
 
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Elios83

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I'm absolutely befuddled how any of you you can look at the title of a single video as evidence of a bias that would be so pervasive in a popular YouTube channel like DF that we should categorically dismiss any results coming from that channel as unreliable, simply because our preferred platform hasn't come out on top. Perhaps they simply decided to indicate a clear winner in the titles because people here and on social media were so vastly misinterpreting and misrepresenting the data presented in their comparatives.

Having a platform preference doesn't indicate bias of the kind that would cause one to falsify comparative videos. Stating something like that absent evidence, whether it's directed at NXGamer or Digital Foundry, is a big indication that no one should take anything you say seriously.

You're the one making the connection that just because they have personal preferences their videos are not reliable or they falsified things. I don't think that's the case at all. They're professional in the contents they make although they do happen to miss things that are noticed by others.
I'm just stating the all the crew there but John Linneman has always had a personal preference for Xbox and evidence has been piling on for a decade, it's absolutely nothing new that is surprising me.
Alex Battaglia back in March/April was on the whole "PS5 will actually be forced to downclock and developers will have to choose between CPU or GPU performance" bandwagon on other message boards until proved wrong.
It's absolutely evident they have treated XSX with kid gloves so far in ALL the occasions where XSX was losing, always trying to find excuses for the results, always with really muted tones.
After all you can't bite the hand of a company that gave you business opportunities like announcing the specs of their console or being the first to make a teardown video, so I won't even blame them business wise but the reality is evident.
As soon as the opportunity arised to make fanfare for XSX, they immediatly grabbed it in an absolutely mask dropping moment with their Hitman 3 video title.
Sometimes personal excitement should be contained better if you want to pretend to be neutral ;)
 

thelastword

Banned
Except he focuses on titles that have an advantage on PlayStation while often times ignoring when Xbox has the advantage.

Similar to how you were constantly posting PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X every time PS4 Pro had an advantage, but only when PS4 Pro had an advantage despite it being rare lol. That's what being biased is all about.
Receipts on him choosing titles that is better on PS5. As opposed to pretty much all or most titles are better on PS5 as opposed. He just goes into more depth and detail over DF in explaining it, whilst discovering often effects and disparities DF happens to miss, curiously.

As for me posting lots of faceoffs with PRO. I have a PRO and that console was on top with framerate on so many faceoffs, so I was happy with that. The faceoffs I posted did not post wrong information or biased opinion. It is why I mostly posted Vgtech's vids, which are just unadulterated facts and stats, absolutely raw data with no opinions creeping in... I'd say, I posted many Vgtech threads last gen, so it would seem PRO won quite a bit on framerate.....
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Receipts on him choosing titles that is better on PS5. As opposed to pretty much all or most titles are better on PS5 as opposed. He just goes into more depth and detail over DF in explaining it, whilst discovering often effects and disparities DF happens to miss, curiously.

As for me posting lots of faceoffs with PRO. I have a PRO and that console was on top with framerate on so many faceoffs, so I was happy with that. The faceoffs I posted did not post wrong information or biased opinion. It is why I mostly posted Vgtech's vids, which are just unadulterated facts and stats, absolutely raw data with no opinions creeping in... I'd say, I posted many Vgtech threads last gen, so it would seem PRO won quite a bit on framerate.....
Hitman 3, MK11 and Star Wars Squadrons are all better on Series X.

I don't keep track of which games he analyzes vs. other sites.

Did he do these 3? They were all recent videos from which sites did them. Of course two of these games are old, but youd think he might jump on SW as EA PRed the differences.
 
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assurdum

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You're the one making the connection that just because they have personal preferences their videos are not reliable or they falsified things. I don't think that's the case at all. They're professional in the contents they make although they do happen to miss things that are noticed by others.
I'm just stating the all the crew there but John Linneman has always had a personal preference for Xbox and evidence has been piling on for a decade, it's absolutely nothing new that is surprising me.
Alex Battaglia back in March/April was on the whole "PS5 will actually be forced to downclock and developers will have to choose between CPU or GPU performance" bandwagon on other message boards until proved wrong.
It's absolutely evident they have treated XSX with kid gloves so far in ALL the occasions where XSX was losing, always trying to find excuses for the results, always with really muted tones.
After all you can't bite the hand of a company that gave you business opportunities like announcing the specs of their console or being the first to make a teardown video, so I won't even blame them business wise but the reality is evident.
As soon as the opportunity arised to make fanfare for XSX, they immediatly grabbed it in an absolutely mask dropping moment with their Hitman 3 video title.
Sometimes personal excitement should be contained better if you want to pretend to be neutral ;)
Oh Alex Battaglia. I don't follow him. He is very professional in his videos but sometimes he shit outside the vase and I missed the reason behind. He's clearly a pc fanatic, maybe he like to kiss the ass to Leadbetter? The last quote on era in the Hitman 3 thread about he heard the tools are improved ugh give to me some headache. So tools on series X improve constantly and significantly but on ps5 tools are static and with Hitman 3 more than that was impossible? Ooook.
 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
Oh Alex Battaglia. I don't follow him. He is very professional in his videos but sometimes he shit outside the vase and I missed the reason behind. He's clearly a pc fanatic, maybe he like to kiss the ass to Leadbetter? The last quote on era in the Hitman 3 thread about he heard the tools are improved ugh give to me some shiver. So tools just improve on series X and on ps5 they already squeeze out the best possible ah?

again I will point out that’s how your seeing it, he never implied tools weren’t improving on ps5 at all. He stated that Xbox was improving as everybody knew the tools were behind.

Just proved my point exactly
 

assurdum

Banned
again I will point out that’s how your seeing it, he never implied tools weren’t improving on ps5 at all. He stated that Xbox was improving as everybody knew the tools were behind.

Just proved my point exactly
He stated a bullshit because Hitman 3 can run in toast machine. The anomaly is the ps5 there not the series X performance.
 
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HoofHearted

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He saw one video showing something and another showing something else. Naturally he questioned the disparity. So like anything else the Xbox was patched from the 1.0 disc version to a more stable game, yet when these things came to light, his question was answered and he stepped down.

I think you misinterpreted the point of my post..

Unlike many here, who wants no questions asked in a tech thread, because they deem this an Xbox win. If you really want the Xbox to win, you should want it to do so unequivocally, not by grasping for straws, seeing as the rhetoric prior to the console's landing was a 40-50fps lead for Xbox whilst pushing 4k vs a PS5's 1440p resolution at the framerate deficit. Not only have we not seen that, but rather we have seen PS5 hold the higher resolutions, the higher effects and the better framerates throughout. So it's farfetched to question how it could be performing vs Xbox if they were both at 4k.

I really don't understand where you're heading on your response here??? Are you talking about Hitman 3 here or some other game - as the actual data and details being discussed don't match up to your post above?
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
again I will point out that’s how your seeing it, he never implied tools weren’t improving on ps5 at all. He stated that Xbox was improving as everybody knew the tools were behind.

Just proved my point exactly
Exactly.

People are just sour their favourite plastic box didn't get mentioned.

Everyone has firewalls and anti-virus programs on their PC. If a site reviewing security software said Company X making program Y is working on better tools, name one smart and logical person who thinks that statement means all the other 30 companies making software are sitting there doing nothing for the next 10 years because the editor didn't bring them up?

I'll tell you who.

Video game warriors.
 

assurdum

Banned
Exactly.

People are just sour their favourite plastic box didn't get mentioned.

Everyone has firewalls and anti-virus programs on their PC. If a site reviewing security software said Company X making program Y is working on better tools, name one smart and logical person who thinks that statement means all the other 30 companies making software are sitting there doing nothing for the next 10 years because the editor didn't bring them up?

I'll tell you who.

Video game warriors.
Exactly what? Hitman 3 doesn't runs better on series X because tools have been update. There isn't any evidence about it. Why we need to insult the other intelligence?
What exactly means I heard tools are improved in a thread about Hitman 3 when clearly what he heard hardly is tied to Hitman 3?
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Exactly what? Hitman 3 doesn't runs better on series X because tools have been update. There isn't any evidence about it. Why we need to insult the other intelligence?
What exactly means I heard tools are improved without a prove? So I heard ps5 it's quite close to the series X hardware, what is it the point of such statement?
Would you feel better if DF said PS5 tools are improving too, without mentioning Xbox?
 

assurdum

Banned
Would you feel better if DF said PS5 tools are improving too, without mentioning Xbox?
And what is it supposed to mean? Why they should say that? Did you have idea at least why an engine can work better on platform and not in the other? There are tons of reasons behind it. Put a single case as an evidence of a rumour it's gossip not tech stuff.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Don't say bullshit please. They downplay the ps5 hardware specs every single time they can. Leadbetter continue to spread disinformation around the variable frequency even lately. Just John Linneman praise it when he can.
Hitman 3 in my opinion should be analysed better on ps5 because some stuff deserves more in deeper chats than just it's weaker, end of the story.
Relax assurdum. No matter what DF says about PS5, every gamer knows PS5 is the best console in the world, and every time they say Xbox is better it's because they didn't analyze PS5 correctly.

Got it.
 
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freefornow

Gold Member
Since this has devolved into a alleged DF Xbox bias thread, how was DF perceived on Gaf (especially "old Gaf") in the years 2013 to 2017?
Kinda feel it was somewhat different?
 

assurdum

Banned
Relax assurdum. No matter what DF says about PS5, every gamer knows PS5 is the best console in the world, and every time they say Xbox is better it's because they didn't analyze PS5 correctly.

Got it.
And where I said that? You can save your time in something of better if your argument it's all about feed stupid console war. Grow up. Whatever ignore list is it.
 
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thelastword

Banned
Hitman 3, MK11 and Star Wars Squadrons are all better on Series X.

I don't keep track of which games he analyzes vs. other sites.

Did he do these 3? They were all recent videos from which sites did them. Of course two of these games are old, but youd think he might jump on SW as EA PRed the differences.
Hit man 3 just came out. If you supply him the codes. I'm sure he'll dive in.

Mk11 better on Xbox? What is the disparity? And isn't Squadrons a BC fueled analysis where the Xbonex version carries over? Just like the other star wars game. Jeff Fallen Order.

These are mostly BC games. Then look at DF. They rushed to show Dmc because PS5 had an issue in one mode which was patched, crickets there after. Took their cool time with AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs, took their cool time with COD, but quickly published an analysis on COD when they discovered PS5 dropped frames in the airplane chase mission, which was later proven to be a bug, no questions about bugs then. That is on top of better effects and raytracing on PS5, but they chose to highlight the buggy dips in the plane mission.

Where is the Fenyx Rising analysis? The Dirt face off took a while, then doom wins by a hair on Xbox, it is analyzed. We have a tonne of BC games analyzed by them, another BC game in Cyberpunk is out straight away, where they call the Series S a dainty little machine and that Series X has the higher resolution. Where is the Fortnite comparison. Where is the update video on DMC5.?

The truth is DF gets free codes for all new games. They get codes even before the games release, but Nx has been able to beat them on some face offs after purchasing his own games... And remember, Nx does this part time.... It took a very long time for DF to start rolling face off videos. I guess they were still in shock on PS5's performance. Even now you can see how how they carefully curate what videos they push out..... Look at how many Gears 5 videos, BC videos, Ori videos they have on the site. They will be pushing lots of Bethesda videos too very soon. Look at how many Cyberpunk videos. In a few hours two hit man videos, because they want the dialogue on the Xbox advantage to stay current and in focus.

There is a strategy in how and when and what they release more than Nxgamer will ever dream of, because their channel is their life source and they don't want to upset their sponsors they want to keep them happy and keep that cash flowing. They want opportunities and first looks to keep rolling in.

Nxgamer just does this part time on a weekend. He doesn't have all the time they do to strategize such. He is self funded and normally push out content people beckon him to produce more often than not, all because persons value a more indepth look and a keener eye for detail, they will dm Nx to produce a certain game, which more than often, he will have to go buy a code to deliver
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Hit man 3 just came out. If you supply him the codes. I'm sure he'll dive in.

Mk11 better on Xbox? What is the disparity? And isn't Squadrons a BC fueled analysis where the Xbonex version carries over? Just like the other star wars game. Jeff Fallen Order.

These are mostly BC games. Then look at DF. They rushed to show Dmc because PS5 had an issue in one mode which was patched, crickets there after. Took their cool time with AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs, took their cool time with COD, but quickly published an analysis on COD when they discovered PS5 dropped frames in the airplane chase mission, which was later proven to be a bug, no questions about bugs then. That is on top of better effects and raytracing on PS5, but they chose to highlight the buggy dips in the plane mission.

Where is the Fenyx Rising analysis? The Dirt face off took a while, then doom wins by a hair on Xbox, it is analyzed. We have a tonne of BC games analyzed by them, another BC game in Cyberpunk is out straight away, where they call the Series S a dainty little machine and that Series X has the higher resolution. Where is the Fortnite comparison. Where is the update video on DMC5.?

The truth is DF gets free codes for all new games. They get codes even before the games release, but Nx has been able to beat them on some face offs after purchasing his own games... And remember, Nx does this part time.... It took a very long time for DF to start rolling face off videos. I guess they were still in shock on PS5's performance. Even now you can see how how they carefully curate what videos they push out..... Look at how many Gears 5 videos, BC videos, Ori videos they have on the site. They will be pushing lots of Bethesda videos too very soon. Look at how many Cyberpunk videos. In a few hours two hit man videos, because they want the dialogue on the Xbox advantage to stay current and in focus.

There is a strategy in how and when and what they release more than Nxgamer will ever dream of, because their channel is their life source and they don't want to upset their sponsors they want to keep them happy and keep that cash flowing. They want opportunities and first looks to keep rolling in.

Nxgamer just does this part time on a weekend. He doesn't have all the time they do to strategize such. He is self funded and normally push out content people beckon him to produce more often than not, all because persons value a more indepth look and a keener eye for detail, they will dm Nx to produce a certain game, which more than often, he will have to go buy a code to deliver
Instead of writing 7 parapgraphs, just state you think DF is biased against PS5 and NX Gamer is the best pixel analyzer on the net.
 
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Loope

Member
Hit man 3 just came out. If you supply him the codes. I'm sure he'll dive in.

Mk11 better on Xbox? What is the disparity? And isn't Squadrons a BC fueled analysis where the Xbonex version carries over? Just like the other star wars game. Jeff Fallen Order.

These are mostly BC games. Then look at DF. They rushed to show Dmc because PS5 had an issue in one mode which was patched, crickets there after. Took their cool time with AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs, took their cool time with COD, but quickly published an analysis on COD when they discovered PS5 dropped frames in the airplane chase mission, which was later proven to be a bug, no questions about bugs then. That is on top of better effects and raytracing on PS5, but they chose to highlight the buggy dips in the plane mission.

Where is the Fenyx Rising analysis? The Dirt face off took a while, then doom wins by a hair on Xbox, it is analyzed. We have a tonne of BC games analyzed by them, another BC game in Cyberpunk is out straight away, where they call the Series S a dainty little machine and that Series X has the higher resolution. Where is the Fortnite comparison. Where is the update video on DMC5.?

The truth is DF gets free codes for all new games. They get codes even before the games release, but Nx has been able to beat them on some face offs after purchasing his own games... And remember, Nx does this part time.... It took a very long time for DF to start rolling face off videos. I guess they were still in shock on PS5's performance. Even now you can see how how they carefully curate what videos they push out..... Look at how many Gears 5 videos, BC videos, Ori videos they have on the site. They will be pushing lots of Bethesda videos too very soon. Look at how many Cyberpunk videos. In a few hours two hit man videos, because they want the dialogue on the Xbox advantage to stay current and in focus.

There is a strategy in how and when and what they release more than Nxgamer will ever dream of, because their channel is their life source and they don't want to upset their sponsors they want to keep them happy and keep that cash flowing. They want opportunities and first looks to keep rolling in.

Nxgamer just does this part time on a weekend. He doesn't have all the time they do to strategize such. He is self funded and normally push out content people beckon him to produce more often than not, all because persons value a more indepth look and a keener eye for detail, they will dm Nx to produce a certain game, which more than often, he will have to go buy a code to deliver
So many fucking words devoid of any sense other than accuse a company of being biased.Just be a fucking adult and say it in one sentence, holly shit.
 
Hit man 3 just came out. If you supply him the codes. I'm sure he'll dive in.

Mk11 better on Xbox? What is the disparity? And isn't Squadrons a BC fueled analysis where the Xbonex version carries over? Just like the other star wars game. Jeff Fallen Order.

These are mostly BC games. Then look at DF. They rushed to show Dmc because PS5 had an issue in one mode which was patched, crickets there after. Took their cool time with AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs, took their cool time with COD, but quickly published an analysis on COD when they discovered PS5 dropped frames in the airplane chase mission, which was later proven to be a bug, no questions about bugs then. That is on top of better effects and raytracing on PS5, but they chose to highlight the buggy dips in the plane mission.

Where is the Fenyx Rising analysis? The Dirt face off took a while, then doom wins by a hair on Xbox, it is analyzed. We have a tonne of BC games analyzed by them, another BC game in Cyberpunk is out straight away, where they call the Series S a dainty little machine and that Series X has the higher resolution. Where is the Fortnite comparison. Where is the update video on DMC5.?

The truth is DF gets free codes for all new games. They get codes even before the games release, but Nx has been able to beat them on some face offs after purchasing his own games... And remember, Nx does this part time.... It took a very long time for DF to start rolling face off videos. I guess they were still in shock on PS5's performance. Even now you can see how how they carefully curate what videos they push out..... Look at how many Gears 5 videos, BC videos, Ori videos they have on the site. They will be pushing lots of Bethesda videos too very soon. Look at how many Cyberpunk videos. In a few hours two hit man videos, because they want the dialogue on the Xbox advantage to stay current and in focus.

There is a strategy in how and when and what they release more than Nxgamer will ever dream of, because their channel is their life source and they don't want to upset their sponsors they want to keep them happy and keep that cash flowing. They want opportunities and first looks to keep rolling in.

Nxgamer just does this part time on a weekend. He doesn't have all the time they do to strategize such. He is self funded and normally push out content people beckon him to produce more often than not, all because persons value a more indepth look and a keener eye for detail, they will dm Nx to produce a certain game, which more than often, he will have to go buy a code to deliver
The most shocking for me, was their COD analysis (if we can call it like this).

- They didn't notice the better RT shadows on PS5.
- They missed the flickering on XSX shadows
- They missed the absent muzzle light on XSX (or did they say it was a bug?)
- They missed the much higher quality of firing gun smoke (alpha effects) on PS5 that everybody else noticed.
- They assumed the drops on the cutscene on PS5 was a hardware fault, never even thinking once it could be a bug (while any times there are drops on some XSX games they always assume it's either a bug or software problems because of the tools).

It's like they are so convinced the XSX should have the advantage in all games that they simply couldn't see the PS5 graphical advantages, while having a better framerate, something like:

"XSX is more powerful, after one year of predicting how much more powerfull the XSX is, my brain cannot see it in another way, the game is at worse identical between both consoles and this is what I am going to write!"
 

Warablo

Member
Yeah, I am confused, Digital Foundry used to be THE SITE to review each version. Now since Xbox gets a win they aren't credible?
 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
Hit man 3 just came out. If you supply him the codes. I'm sure he'll dive in.

Mk11 better on Xbox? What is the disparity? And isn't Squadrons a BC fueled analysis where the Xbonex version carries over? Just like the other star wars game. Jeff Fallen Order.

These are mostly BC games. Then look at DF. They rushed to show Dmc because PS5 had an issue in one mode which was patched, crickets there after. Took their cool time with AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs, took their cool time with COD, but quickly published an analysis on COD when they discovered PS5 dropped frames in the airplane chase mission, which was later proven to be a bug, no questions about bugs then. That is on top of better effects and raytracing on PS5, but they chose to highlight the buggy dips in the plane mission.

Where is the Fenyx Rising analysis? The Dirt face off took a while, then doom wins by a hair on Xbox, it is analyzed. We have a tonne of BC games analyzed by them, another BC game in Cyberpunk is out straight away, where they call the Series S a dainty little machine and that Series X has the higher resolution. Where is the Fortnite comparison. Where is the update video on DMC5.?

The truth is DF gets free codes for all new games. They get codes even before the games release, but Nx has been able to beat them on some face offs after purchasing his own games... And remember, Nx does this part time.... It took a very long time for DF to start rolling face off videos. I guess they were still in shock on PS5's performance. Even now you can see how how they carefully curate what videos they push out..... Look at how many Gears 5 videos, BC videos, Ori videos they have on the site. They will be pushing lots of Bethesda videos too very soon. Look at how many Cyberpunk videos. In a few hours two hit man videos, because they want the dialogue on the Xbox advantage to stay current and in focus.

There is a strategy in how and when and what they release more than Nxgamer will ever dream of, because their channel is their life source and they don't want to upset their sponsors they want to keep them happy and keep that cash flowing. They want opportunities and first looks to keep rolling in.

Nxgamer just does this part time on a weekend. He doesn't have all the time they do to strategize such. He is self funded and normally push out content people beckon him to produce more often than not, all because persons value a more indepth look and a keener eye for detail, they will dm Nx to produce a certain game, which more than often, he will have to go buy a code to deliver

I just posted a comparison of fortnite, not by DF so you won’t think it’s biased but you can find it. Series X runs it better if you want to know
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Yeah, I am confused, Digital Foundry used to be THE SITE to review each version. Now since Xbox gets a win they aren't credible?
It's a best 2 out of 3, and some people don't like Xbox winning the crown. I don't remember seeing any PS fans complain PS4 was beating Xbox 1080p vs 900p. Now Xbox wins resolution most of the time. Suddenly resolution doesn't matter anymore. It seemed to only matter from 2013 to 2017. Once One X came out, 4k res didn't seem to matter anymore.

Game 1: 360 beat PS3

Game 2: PS4 beat Xbox One

Game 3 Series X beat PS5
 

M_A_C

Member
The most shocking for me, was their COD analysis (if we can call it like this).

- They didn't notice the better RT shadows on PS5.
- They missed the flickering on XSX shadows
- They missed the absent muzzle light on XSX (or did they say it was a bug?)
- They missed the much higher quality of firing gun smoke (alpha effects) on PS5 that everybody else noticed.
- They assumed the drops on the cutscene on PS5 was a hardware fault, never even thinking once it could be a bug (while any times there are drops on some XSX games they always assume it's either a bug or software problems because of the tools).

It's like they are so convinced the XSX should have the advantage in all games that they simply couldn't see the PS5 graphical advantages, while having a better framerate, something like:

"XSX is more powerful, after one year of predicting how much more powerfull the XSX is, my brain cannot see it in another way, the game is at worse identical between both consoles and this is what I am going to write!"
I agree that they are either biased or just plain incompetent. Honestly it might just be the later. Seriously if they guys knew so much about game engines and making games, why aren’t they doing it? Nxgamer obviously has a real job on top of the great knowledge base to make videos.
 
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