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[LordOfChaos]

Nintendo Plans Switch Model With Bigger Samsung OLED Display

Nintendo Co. plans to unveil a model of its Switch gaming console equipped with a bigger Samsung OLED display this year, hoping the larger touchscreen can prop up demand in time for the holidays, people familiar with the plan said.

www.bloomberg.com

Bloomberg breaking the news. Looks like it's already in motion.

 

[01011001]

max out that form factor by minimizing the bezels. so that the shape can stay the exact same and still fit in existing docks.
that's what they should do.

also joy cons WITH FULL SIZED STICKS! get rid of those god awful joy cons they have now!

edit: just saw that they're supposedly 720p... that is disappointing and doesn't give me hope that the new hardware is that much of an improvement in terms of performance. a 1080p screen would have been nice, with a mode that plays existing, unpatched Switch games in docked mode when using it porable. this would mean up to 1080p games in portable mode without any patches needed by developers.

but Nintendo is gonna Nintendo, so they will either do something really weird or they will just disappoint.

 

[LordOfChaos]

also joy cons WITH FULL SIZED STICKS! get rid of those god awful joy cons they have now!

Yeah I can't deal with the standard joycons in portable mode without a grip at least. The asymmetrical button placement and tiny ass joysticks makes me feel like I'm straining my right thumb to get to it.

 

[Pachi72]

Also get rid of that stupid ass Dpad buttons.

 

[01011001]

Yeah I can't deal with the standard joycons in portable mode without a grip at least. The asymmetrical button placement and tiny ass joysticks makes me feel like I'm straining my right thumb to get to it.

the sticks are the biggest issue I have. they are absolutely useless for shooters, they feel like ass in general and they have the worst drifting issues of any controller out there.

I am currently using the Hori Split Pad, that has nice sticks and buttons and is pretty good quality, but it lacks gyro and rumble. I can do without the latter but gyro is a must, the issue is, the only joycon replacements that have normal sized sticks and gyro are super cheap china ware controllers with very questionable quality and quality control. I heard some of them have massive dead zones and some don't (all the same product, so a massive variation in production quality within the same product line)

 

[Andodalf]

Nintendo might finally match the screen quality of the decade old vita

 

[bender]

Bigger screen, but still 720p. Weird.

 

[Aldric]

edit: just saw that they're supposedly 720p... that is disappointing and doesn't give me hope that the new hardware is that much of an improvement in terms of performance.

... The article flat out says this model is capable of 4K resolution docked... That's a huge improvement, likely thanks to DLSS.

 

[01011001]

Nintendo might finally match the screen quality of the decade old vita

the Vita's OLED was atrocious. early OLED screens, especially low resolution ones like the Vita's, had way too much brightness variation in the pixels (there is a term for that but I can't remember... it's like clouding but for individual pixels) so if you looked at say a green texture or a green colour in general, it would not look evenly lit or shaded. the colour would look like it has some sort of visual noise

here I threw together a small image of what I mean it would look like. Left the solid red colour, and right how it will look like on an OLED vita. on darker or less saturated colours it would look 10 times worse as well.

on a handheld screen right in front of your face this also again looks worse than on a screen that's a bit farther away from you.

like I said tho, this was not only an issue the Vita had. my old LG G-Flex also had an early OLED of the time and also had this exact issue.

... The article flat out says this model is capable of 4K resolution docked... That's a huge improvement, likely thanks to DLSS.

4K output doesn't mean shit. the One S can output 4K but games don't suddenly run at that resolution.

 

[Mercenary09]

Bigger screen, but still 720p. Weird.

I mean do you want a worse battery for a small tradeoff of a 1080p screen that you likely will barely tell the difference on?

 

[Mercenary09]

The 720p screen is fine. On a 7 inch display you would barely notice a difference if it was 1080p plus the battery would drain a lot faster. Docked will likely use a form of DLSS to upscale to 4K. If it starts production this summer we could get it this holiday as that's when the PS5 and Series X started production too. Perhaps BotW2 is still possible this year

 

[Aldric]

4K output doesn't mean shit. the One S can output 4K but games don't suddenly run at that resolution.

The hell are you talking about? Of course it means something to mention this model outputs 4K graphics, especially with the rumors about DLSS and Nintendo's partnership with Nvidia. In fact doesn't DLSS upscale native 720p to 4K?

 

[01011001]

The hell are you talking about? Of course it means something to mention this model outputs 4K graphics, especially with the rumors about DLSS and Nintendo's partnership with Nvidia. In fact doesn't DLSS upscale native 720p to 4K?

well I surely hope that these rumors are true. but that would make it even more disappointing that the screen is not 1080p

 

[LordOfChaos]

the Vita's OLED was atrocious. early OLED screens, especially low resolution ones like the Vita's, had way too much brightness variation in the pixels (there is a term for that but I can't remember... it's like clouding but for individual pixels) so if you looked at say a green texture or a green colour in general, it would not look evenly lit or shaded. the colour would look like it has some sort of visual noise

here I threw together a small image of what I mean it would look like. Left the solid red colour, and right how it will look like on an OLED vita. on darker or less saturated colours it would look 10 times worse as well.

on a handheld screen right in front of your face this also again looks worse than on a screen that's a bit farther away from you.

like I said tho, this was not only an issue the Vita had. my old LG G-Flex also had an early OLED of the time and also had this exact issue.




4K output doesn't mean shit. the One S can output 4K but games don't suddenly run at that resolution.

OLED Fringing maybe? I remember early models would have a big red finger sticking out of each pixel, especially with early Pentile layouts combined with low PPI

 

[01011001]

OLED Fringing maybe? I remember early models would have a big red finger sticking out of each pixel, especially with early Pentile layouts combined with low PPI

not sure if that's what it's called. it looked like in my example image.
here an example image with grey colour

and it really annoyed me to look at this every time a solid colour was on screen. it looked like your screen was constantly dirty or something.

 

[ReBurn]

I'll buy one.

 

[Craig of War]

 

[longdi]

vita oled was very good for its time.
iirc it uses full rgb subpixels whereas other oled screens use pentile subpixels.
maybe the brightness variations are not perfect but vita screens are pin sharp

i feel nintendo will probably use pentile 720p which makes the switch oled looks lower res than 720p.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Needs to be at 1080p min and a more powerful system,

thus the Switch 2 that can play Switch 1 games.

 

[Mercenary09]

Needs to be at 1080p min and a more powerful system,

thus the Switch 2 that can play Switch 1 games.

I mean do you want a terrible battery life in exchange for a 1080p screen because that's what you'll get. On a 7-inch screen you can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. Not worth it

 

[Craig of War]

I don't know how i feel bout a 720p in 2021 like come on Xbox 360 had 720p in 2005 for god sake. And even some OG Xbox games for the OG Xbox can run at 720p lol

 

[Termite]

720p OLED is fine by me as long as games are all hitting native res. Not hitting native res is what makes games look shitty.

I'd much rather this than a 1080p non-OLED screen where games are running at 900p or some such.

Most importantly, it demonstrates why Nintendo has shown so little. They're hiding the games until they can show them running on the Pro. BotW 2 in 4k will be such a massive increase from the first game.

Also, feeling pretty good about hacking my original Switch yesterday! Great timing.

 

[Kumomeme]

hope this one should come with 5000mh battery. paired with 720p screen should give good amount of battery life.

 

[Mercenary09]

I don't know how i feel bout a 720p in 2021 like come on Xbox 360 had 720p in 2005 for god sake. And even some OG Xbox games for the OG Xbox can run at 720p lol

You're comparing 720p games played on a TV screen to 720p games played on a 7-inch portable device. Not the same at all. If you upgrade that screen to 1080p your eyes will barely notice a difference. When you play this on a TV you're going to get 4K likely through DLSS.

 

[01011001]

vita oled was very good for its time.
iirc it uses full rgb subpixels whereas other oled screens use pentile subpixels.
maybe the brightness variations are not perfect but vita screens are pin sharp

i feel nintendo will probably use pentile 720p which makes the switch oled looks lower res than 720p.

I envy people who can look over that, but to me that shit was an eyesore like no other. the Vita 2000's screen was way nice IMO not only because it was brighter and therefore better suited for a handheld console, but also because it didn't have that issue due to being an LCD panel

 

[BennyBlanco]

well I surely hope that these rumors are true. but that would make it even more disappointing that the screen is not 1080p

tensor cores in the dock

 

[digitaltrance]

I am already thinking about scalpers for this thing...grr.

 

[Azelover]

I highly doubt the 4k thing..

But let's wait to see what it's all about.. hopefully it won't be expensive.

 

[ReBurn]

I highly doubt the 4k thing..

But let's wait to see what it's all about.. hopefully it won't be expensive.

dlss will save us

 

[Fake]

Finally some quality.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I highly doubt the 4k thing..

But let's wait to see what it's all about.. hopefully it won't be expensive.

I'm not that skeptical about it, it's not going to be rendering 4K for AAA games, but with DLSS upscaling Switch level games rendering internally at 1080p could look pretty good upscaled to 4K

 

[e&e]

Does anyone screeching about 720p actually want a portable?

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I mean do you want a terrible battery life in exchange for a 1080p screen because that's what you'll get. On a 7-inch screen you can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. Not worth it

Phone screens say different.

 

[longdi]

I envy people who can look over that, but to me that shit was an eyesore like no other. the Vita 2000's screen was way nice IMO not only because it was brighter and therefore better suited for a handheld console, but also because it didn't have that issue due to being an LCD panel

yes i remember oled then have grey clouding problems.

put on a grey wallpaper and it is evident in dark environment the blotching and spots

my vita suffered from it, but not an issue for me. Dont affect the visuals, I enjoy its inky contrast and deep colors.

Probably other batches are better or worse, since sony can buy all the premium screens for a cheap handheld.

 

[Derktron]

I see a lot of fuss over it being 720p and I have to agree on it, but then again it makes sense only if the battery would be an issue but then again portable gaming mini PC's run at 1080p, and no issue there. So I don't know why Nintendo would go again for a 720p screen then upgrade the size of the screen to a 7 inch. Makes no sense at all, then why make an upgrade if you aren't going to make a full upgrade?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

I’ll buy it sight unseen. The Switch has been my favorite console since the PS2.

 

[Derktron]

I don't know how i feel bout a 720p in 2021 like come on Xbox 360 had 720p in 2005 for god sake. And even some OG Xbox games for the OG Xbox can run at 720p lol

Do you not realize that it's a portable console, not a damn home console?

 

[godhandiscen]

720p with 8 hours of battery life would be a good trade off.

 

[longdi]

720p 7" pentile oled would make things a little too blocky imo

 

[carlosrox]

Nintendo might finally match the screen quality of the decade old vita

How'd that work out for the Vita?

 

[Andodalf]

How'd that work out for the Vita?

It was the best handheld of all time and home to the GOAT game P4G

 

[_Ex_]

vita oled was very good for its time.

Yes it was, it was glorious, still is. My original Vita's OLED screen still looks fantastic to this day. Pixels so sharp you could shave with them.

Anyway, the Switch's aping of the Vita continues, big surprise.

 

[hroerekr]

Unless they have a magic tech to run games in portable mode with 1080 while maintaining a decent battery life, they better keep the 720p and focus on running games with that sweet native pixel perfect res.

On the other hand, the 4k bit sounds ridiculous when current games can barely render 1080p docked.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Not shocked or surprised whatsoever.

 

[carlosrox]

It was the best handheld of all time

LOOOOOOOOOL

 

[graywolf323]

I'm fine with 720p if it helps battery life & games can lock in at being native resolution in handheld then with the increased power

I'll definitely be there day 1 as long as my budget allows for it, I've been wanting a Switch Pro for years now

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

I've mentioned it before, but there is no way it will natively render any games at 4k but will likely be able to output at 4k.

I'm hoping for DLSS for this thing, that would be awesome.

 

[Astral Dog]

max out that form factor by minimizing the bezels. so that the shape can stay the exact same and still fit in existing docks.
that's what they should do.

also joy cons WITH FULL SIZED STICKS! get rid of those god awful joy cons they have now!

edit: just saw that they're supposedly 720p... that is disappointing and doesn't give me hope that the new hardware is that much of an improvement in terms of performance. a 1080p screen would have been nice, with a mode that plays existing, unpatched Switch games in docked mode when using it porable. this would mean up to 1080p games in portable mode without any patches needed by developers.

but Nintendo is gonna Nintendo, so they will either do something really weird or they will just disappoint.

Its always the same argument, but dude, a 1080p screen would be a total waste of resources, leave that thing for the proper next gen switch.

The current model can't even take advantage of the 720p screen in many cases because the graphics are so demanding,it would need a gigantic leap in everything or else it will end with tons of sub native games again,the power upgrade would be better used in docked mode and framerate while taking the existing games run at proper native 720p OLED, that alone will be a huge upgrade and deliver top notch portable graphics at a fair price

Its just a Pro version not the Switch 2

 

[Kenpachii]

DLSS would be a huge improvement.

 

[Fake]

DLSS would be a huge improvement.

DLSS and AA will save all Switch games.