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Did I “get gud” at Dark Souls?

laynelane

Member
In blight town now. Killed like 186217 slugs and got 1 slab.

Already have the new Londo fire keepers soul

umm. So I should Go fight the “tutorial boss” round 2? That the suggestion? not against, wanna be sure thats what we are speaking on

Do you have your item discovery up? Even one humanity would help a lot, with 10 being the max for it. That could help with titanite farming.

Yep, tutorial boss round 2. He's not too bad once you learn his patterns.
 

laynelane

Member
How does one do that? No idea

You start with a base of 100 item discovery. Eating one Humanity will give you 150 and eating 10 will give you 210. Sometimes I stick with just one since I don't want to chance losing 10 Humanities early game if I die. There's a counter on the upper left of the screen that indicates how many Humanities you've consumed.
 
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Nah. +7 one remember hah
Right you don't want to farm for titanite. +7 should be fine though.

to pop humanity look for them in the items section and "use" them. The number in the corner of the top corner of the screen will go up, that's how many "humanity" you have. you can use one to go from hollow to human at a bonfire or use 1 to strengthen the bonfire so it has 10 estus flasks when u rest there instead of 5. And you can increase it by more later. Sorry if you already knew all that.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Right you don't want to farm for titanite. +7 should be fine though.

to pop humanity look for them in the items section and "use" them. The number in the corner of the top corner of the screen will go up, that's how many "humanity" you have. you can use one to go from hollow to human at a bonfire or use 1 to strengthen the bonfire so it has 10 estus flasks when u rest there instead of 5. And you can increase it by more later. Sorry if you already knew all that.
I do want to farm. But really don’t have the “humanity” to spare. It’s always seemed scarce for me. I’m aware rats are a good farming place to get some. Also, that’s likely why my “slugs” in blight town only turned up 1 slab and 1 green… shard. Was hollow while looking.

Oh trust, I’ve kindled all my bonfires haha
 
I do want to farm. But really don’t have the “humanity” to spare. It’s always seemed scarce for me. I’m aware rats are a good farming place to get some. Also, that’s likely why my “slugs” in blight town only turned up 1 slab and 1 green… shard. Was hollow while looking.

Oh trust, I’ve kindled all my bonfires haha
Well, you could always go back to Sen's and look for the gold serpent ring hidden inside. wearing that increases item discovery. But you will have to walk slowly in the swamp to wear it

I don't want to mislead you into thinking that upping your item discovery means there will be an abundance of large titanite shards every run through the swamp. The drop rate will increase but it will still take a bit of time.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Well, you could always go back to Sen's and look for the gold serpent ring hidden inside. wearing that increases item discovery. But you will have to walk slowly in the swamp to wear it

I don't want to mislead you into thinking that upping your item discovery means there will be an abundance of large titanite shards every run through the swamp. The drop rate will increase but it will still take a bit of time.
At the undead asylum now. Time for round two.
 

Maddux4164

Member
In it for the long haul. He’s kicking my ass. Mainly due to the “fall damage” and me having to heal almost immediately gives him a free shot

But I’ll say the Uchi does 5x the damage. Amazing. Had him at maybe 10% health left. Almost had him. Drake sword is useless on him.

It’s mainly getting off the starting block. You start the fight staggered from the fall and have to heal.
 
In it for the long haul. He’s kicking my ass. Mainly due to the “fall damage” and me having to heal almost immediately gives him a free shot

But I’ll say the Uchi does 5x the damage. Amazing. Had him at maybe 10% health left. Almost had him. Drake sword is useless on him.

It’s mainly getting off the starting block. You start the fight staggered from the fall and have to heal.
Yeah you've got this. Only a matter of time
 

Maddux4164

Member
Victory. Snagged a nice 20k soils. Titanite. And the glory

unequipped everything so I can fast roll. Then just make him look silly at that point
 

laynelane

Member
Ugh. Forgot it’s “large titanite shards” I need. Think he gave me a “slab”. Not sure what to do with those

It's the final material needed to upgrade your weapon to maximum. The slab you have is the only guaranteed one in the base game and there's one in the DLC. Congrats on your victory over the boss!
 
Congrats.

Before u go back, maybe stop by snuggly crow's nest, drop off a piece of rubbish, then quit and reload so snuggly gives you a titanite chunk in exchange.

The slab you just won gets you from +14 to +15

Large shards get you to +10

But you'll need chunks to get from +11 to +14
 
just Fyi, I always play at under 25% equip load. So havel's ring is handy to help you wear as much armour as possible while still being fast

I love fast roll

I love fast movement

I love chasing down and backstabbing people
 

Maddux4164

Member
Congrats.

Before u go back, maybe stop by snuggly crow's nest, drop off a piece of rubbish, then quit and reload so snuggly gives you a titanite chunk in exchange.

The slab you just won gets you from +14 to +15

Large shards get you to +10

But you'll need chunks to get from +11 to +14
Would. But don’t have any rubbish. Used a red eye orb or whatever and caught a couple purging stones
 

Maddux4164

Member
just Fyi, I always play at under 25% equip load. So havel's ring is handy to help you wear as much armour as possible while still being fast

I love fast roll

I love fast movement

I love chasing down and backstabbing people
Without that. Not sure if I had won. My mobility was stupid insane. I try to stay at minimum a “mid roll”. I’ll never fat roll. Ever. Also the bleed damage the Uchi does is INSANE. He went down quickly once I spammed RT
 

Maddux4164

Member
It's the final material needed to upgrade your weapon to maximum. The slab you have is the only guaranteed one in the base game and there's one in the DLC. Congrats on your victory over the boss!
Oh wow. So I’ve got an extremely rare item eh? Really? That’s interesting for sure. Happy to have collected it as obviously it’ll be needed.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Tonight’s accomplishments so far:

Beat the Hydra
Met Dusk
Beat Havel
Beat the Stray demon
leveled up a bunch
collected a couple nice rings
got a nice slab of titanite for later

Mad progress for sure. Progress rocks. Happy I’m not stuck for hours and hours in places like I’m certain has happened to others before
 

Winter John

Gold Member
Yesterday was one of them days when I couldn't do shit. Started a hunter build despite knowing that I don't like the short sword. My timing was off, I was rushing attacks, not defending properly. Got blasted by Havel twice, didn't get the dark knight sword, got killed by him, then 2 skeletons on the way back to him, lost my souls.
To top it all off some asshole invaded me. Is there anything more pathetic than a player decked out in high end gear, invading Undead Burg and fishing for backstabs? He got me the first time with his bullshit, but as soon as the fog doors popped the 2nd time I was ready for him. I dodged, parried his attacks and took him out. 3rd time same thing. 4th time he suicided as soon as he saw me. Then he sent me a buttraged message calling me a cheating hack. That made up for all the frustrations but it was enough for the day. I quit and deleted character.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Yesterday was one of them days when I couldn't do shit. Started a hunter build despite knowing that I don't like the short sword. My timing was off, I was rushing attacks, not defending properly. Got blasted by Havel twice, didn't get the dark knight sword, got killed by him, then 2 skeletons on the way back to him, lost my souls.
To top it all off some asshole invaded me. Is there anything more pathetic than a player decked out in high end gear, invading Undead Burg and fishing for backstabs? He got me the first time with his bullshit, but as soon as the fog doors popped the 2nd time I was ready for him. I dodged, parried his attacks and took him out. 3rd time same thing. 4th time he suicided as soon as he saw me. Then he sent me a buttraged message calling me a cheating hack. That made up for all the frustrations but it was enough for the day. I quit and deleted character.
wow. That’s insane. Did you start a new?

Also… umm… I admit to cheesing Havel.

Noticed upon walking up the steps from the Darkroot Garden he could be seen through the door. Which I knew, meant I can Attack him. Obviously it means he can also attack me. He actually killed me twice. But eventually beat him easily after I knew his “through the door“ pattern lol
 
wow. That’s insane. Did you start a new?

Also… umm… I admit to cheesing Havel.

Noticed upon walking up the steps from the Darkroot Garden he could be seen through the door. Which I knew, meant I can Attack him. Obviously it means he can also attack me. He actually killed me twice. But eventually beat him easily after I knew his “through the door“ pattern lol
all part of dat souls life

your stats are good based on how you describe your play style and your level is about right for sens fortress. If you're not gonna buff uchi with a spell, only put points in VIT, END and DEX from here on. You could put some points in STR after DEX hits 40, but its be more effective to ignore strength until then, unless you want to carry a powerful heavy shield in certain situations...imo that is
 

Winter John

Gold Member
wow. That’s insane. Did you start a new?

Also… umm… I admit to cheesing Havel.

Noticed upon walking up the steps from the Darkroot Garden he could be seen through the door. Which I knew, meant I can Attack him. Obviously it means he can also attack me. He actually killed me twice. But eventually beat him easily after I knew his “through the door“ pattern lol

I'll probably make a dex/faith build. That'll involve getting to Dusk as quickly as possible which is a hassle but worth it

Everybody cheeses Havel when they can.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Ok. Done for tonight.

Accomplishments include:

Hornet ring
dragon crest ring
havels ring

Defeat Sif
Defeat Havel
Defeat Hydra
Defeat Stray Demon
Meet Dusk
Leveled up tons

Got frustrated 0 times
(not bad for a gaming session… some folks just die for 4 hours straight)

This game was made for me. What an absolute joy ride I’ve had in my 3-4 sessions of DS

I am energized and ready for more!!
 

luffie

Member
Exactly. Every room is a damn ambush in DS 🤣😂🤣😂 crazy. Also discovery is 90% of the game. Crazy how much you wont see if you just run through it.
I remember in in one section on Land of giants (forgot the exact name), there was one annoying archer on a narrow ledge who keeps firing arrow, big hole on the side of the ledge.

I sought to run and immediately end it, when i ran closer, I saw how the narrow ledge is wider inside, and in a fraction of a second my mind goes "oh fuck, there must be an ambush!"

Turns out i was right, one hiding skeleton appeared and gave me a good kick off the ledge. My mind goes, "good one FromSoft, good one".
 

Maddux4164

Member
I remember in in one section on Land of giants (forgot the exact name), there was one annoying archer on a narrow ledge who keeps firing arrow, big hole on the side of the ledge.

I sought to run and immediately end it, when i ran closer, I saw how the narrow ledge is wider inside, and in a fraction of a second my mind goes "oh fuck, there must be an ambush!"

Turns out i was right, one hiding skeleton appeared and gave me a good kick off the ledge. My mind goes, "good one FromSoft, good one".
Ahhhh yea. That’s dark souls we know and loathe 😂🤣😂🤣
 
Souls spent
Oh yeh there is a max soul level your character can be, but the returns of levelling up will diminish long before that. I think max level is like 700 or 900 but a character that is say, level 300 is already great at everything and getting negligible gains from level ups after that.

In the old days, people used to think of a soul level 120-125 characters as a "finished" character, because you can build a good character in a certain style that way. So one guy could be a wizard, another guy could be a fighter, etc. But now a lot of people just keep putting more points in whatever they feel like, or so it seems
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
Souls spent
I once tried a hacked saved with max souls (99999999 or whatever it was) and it wasn't enough to max all stats to 99. But no one goes to 99.

Most stats have what's called a "soft cap" at 30 or 40, where the return on investment drops massively. We're talking from 5 points per level to 1 point every few levels.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Tonight I went back for the doll in the Asylum, cleared out the remaining demon statue guys in Senn’s Fortress, and took out Sif.
Nice! I also Have the doll… what’s it do again? Also… SIF gave me mad trouble at first. Took maybe 5-7 tries to beat him. Backing him into a corner and getting underneath him works well.
 

Rubik8

Member
Nice! I also Have the doll… what’s it do again? Also… SIF gave me mad trouble at first. Took maybe 5-7 tries to beat him. Backing him into a corner and getting underneath him works well.
It’s all about stamina. He does a double swipe attack that you need a lot of stamina to block through. Or you have to time a roll through one of the swipes very exactly. Stay between his back legs as much as you can. I think I died 3 times before I got it right.
The doll opens a path through the painting in Andor Londo to the Painted World. That’s the building with all the white robed assassins.
 

Maddux4164

Member
It’s all about stamina. He does a double swipe attack that you need a lot of stamina to block through. Or you have to time a roll through one of the swipes very exactly. Stay between his back legs as much as you can. I think I died 3 times before I got it right.
The doll opens a path through the painting in Andor Londo to the Painted World. That’s the building with all the white robed assassins.
Well, he’s dead. Had to take all my armor off and super fast roll. Worked.

Ahhh. That’s how ya do that painted world. Nice.
 

Maddux4164

Member
Had a short go at Sens last night. Not too long. Was tired. I feel far better equipped for the snake dudes. I’m basically trying to speed run my way to the bon fire before I have more of a proper explore. Almost made it a couple times. Learned the patterns of the snakes and the big ball rather well.

I’ll give it a go later and hope to reach the bon fire. Wasn’t too bad though.
 

BabyYoda

Banned
Had a short go at Sens last night. Not too long. Was tired. I feel far better equipped for the snake dudes. I’m basically trying to speed run my way to the bon fire before I have more of a proper explore. Almost made it a couple times. Learned the patterns of the snakes and the big ball rather well.

I’ll give it a go later and hope to reach the bon fire. Wasn’t too bad though.
Are you talking about the hidden bonfire in Sens Fortress, there's one fairly early on and you have to drop down to get to it, I won't say more than that ;)
 

Maddux4164

Member
Are you talking about the hidden bonfire in Sens Fortress, there's one fairly early on and you have to drop down to get to it, I won't say more than that ;)
I hear ya 😏

I gotta get to one. This place makes Blight Town look like fire link shrine. Again, I actually like ole Blighty.
 
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