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[yurinka]

Do everyday people even care about esports? It seems like a weird money laundering thing. The only people that care about it seem to be the people competing and the marketers.

disclaimer: old man opinions

EVO has audiences of hundreds of thousands. Same goes with the top players combined. Biggest tournaments of other genres have several millions of audiences. Huge audiences of a very targeted audience are super valuable for marketing. In this case, this is why all fighting game devs/publishers traditionally made big announcements at the EVO finals. It's like the fighting game Superbowl.

Seems they just buy what MS doesn't want

Yes, exclusive fighting games. This is why fighting games fans play on PlayStation instead of in Xbox. So this is why tournaments are played on PlayStation. And why Sony buys the biggest fighting game tournament.

Gaikai and Onlive were, first of all, bought to increase and evolve PSNow with their infrastructure and know how.
So after game streaming and virtual reality, Sony is now investing in e-sports _ expanding once again their gaming services (they're probably in on everything right now) _ don't know how can anyone see this negatively or as a trolling worth buying/business decision.

Sony has been funding fighting games event for a while puttting money for prize pools here and there, making online tournaments of the main ones, etc.

As an example, for SFV in addition to partly fund the game development, Sony gave Capcom half a million dollars on top of that for the SFV eSports prize pools and hosted the Capcom Cup (yearly finals of SFV eSports) at their PlayStation Experience (or whatever was called) event.

 

[longdi]

The Dusk Gollem SF6 + Ono being fired claims were proven to be totally fake. The game was still not under production, Ono wasn't its director, Ono retired for other reasons (covid destroying huge Capcom eSports plans for 2020 + health issues), leaked Capcom future released scheduled shown SF6 wasn't delayed but instead planned for late 2022 matching the timeframe mentioned in Ono's words made months/years before, Ono wasn't replaced by any female, etc.


They didn't mention it, but I assume that not much. Very likely less than what they pay for E3 stand. Most EVO staff were unpaid volunteers and prize pools were almost non-existent. It's a community event but made in Las Vegas. And due to the scandal almost every single company was cancelling it so it was basically dead.


Fighting games tournaments are traditionally played on PlayStation instead on PC because many players are mostly (or only) played on PlayStation and because it's cheaper to buy dozens for a tournament plus easier to make sure all the machines from all tournaments have exactly the same performance.

i hope it is not much and a non news. feels weird buying over a tainted organization with small outreach to boot..

 

[Kerotan]

I feel more sorry for people who think generations can be won.

They can though. It's a pretty simple concept. They can be won in terms of sales and they can be won in terms of who has the best games.

 

[yurinka]

Probably means SF6, KoFXV, GG Strive are all console exclusive for life.

Well, GG Strive is and KoF XIV and SFV were. SF6 seems that will be multiplatform and crossgen, but who knows if KoFXV will end being exclusive.

 

[ZehDon]

In terms of eSports, this isn't a particularly big "get" and it certainly doesn't fall into Sony's wheel house - they pretty much just make cinematic third persona action adventure games. It feels more like Sony boosting community relations by keeping a fan-favourite event alive, one that would be on its last legs after 2020 saw partners walk away, players refuse to participate, and the eventual cancellation of the event due to COVID-19.

PlayStation gamers tout PlayStation exclusives as their holy grail; if they're so good, why is there this rush for Sony to buy up something big? Are these exclusives suddenly not good enough? Very strange attitude. This buy-in feels like a "good buy Sony" moment, keeping EVO alive, instead of a "Sony countering Microsoft" moment with some big headline-grabbing acquisition. What a strange reaction...

 

[Heisenberg007]

Doesn't impact gamers just yet; I think it's more about being front and center with the PlayStation brand and leveraging this as a revenue stream. If it is a profitable venture, then it means good things for PlayStation gamers down the road.

More money = more investments + better games.

 

[Heisenberg007]

PlayStation gamers tout PlayStation exclusives as their holy grail; if they're so good, why is there this rush for Sony to buy up something big? Are these exclusives suddenly not good enough?

Not at all. I think these exclusives are bigger and better than ever before.

One concern, however, is that MS is buying other established studios and IPs. It is not necessarily producing new content but reducing the amount of content that will come on PlayStation by locking previously multiplatform games to Xbox.

This is a big reason why people want Sony to buy studios -- to ensure some fan-favorite games remain on PlayStation.

 

[ToadMan]

But what fighting games has playstation even made recently?

This is not a news item for casual gamers like yourself and Geoff grubb. You may return to your console war foxhole.

 

[ToadMan]

I'd much rather see the tournament scene remain largely independent, instead of being overseen by a singular publisher-platform holder. With the genre's focus on esports, assuming this succeeds and Evo continues to be the most prominent worldwide tournament, this acquisition would potentially make Sony a quasi-gatekeeper of fighting games and their content, regardless of what consoles are allowed at the actual events. I'm not particularly optimistic about this announcement, but I will be interested to see, whether Sony ultimately finds partially owning Evo to be more trouble than it's worth.

This would be my concern but then again, this is only a joint venture acquisition so Sony aren’t the only voice and I don’t think evo would survive as a partisan console manufacturer event, so I think Sony will not influence the direction too much.

There might be a bit more advertising, they might make a bigger deal of Evo in their own marketing and maybe it drives funding of titles but I don’t think it’ll suddenly become a PS only thing.

 

[turtlepowa]

They can though. It's a pretty simple concept. They can be won in terms of sales and they can be won in terms of who has the best games.

But why would a non shareholder care about sales numbers? That's pretty pathetic. I don't care how often my plastic toys sell and i don't care how often my toaster sells as long as it's enough for the companies to continue. Games are a matter of taste, there is no winner except you are talking about that ridiculous metascore or Geoff's
promotional event.

 

[DForce]

This was proven to be blatantly false.

Capcom leaked game schedule shown SF6 being scheduled for late 2022, matching Ono's works years ago mentioning they wanted to spend the same amount of time with SFV series than they did with SFIV series, and that wouldn't release SF6 before that. Ono also mentioned they wanted to wait to see PS5 in the market to see what next gen consoles and games offer and how they could use that to design the next SF around it. Plus Ono wasn't the game director, he was an executive producer.

Plus SF6 still wasn't under full production when he left and the reasons for him retiring weren't related to SF6 at all. He had health issues for working too much (in addition to work on SF he had several other roles and job positions at Capcom) and covid destroyed the huge eSports plans Ono designed with a new eSports division he just built that included to bring SFV to the Olympic games, a giant Capcom Pro Tours with many dozens of events around the world, a deal to make a SFV league with colleges from USA and another with Japan, a SFV deal with ESPN and more. Capcom CEO even mentioned eSports was going to be the main pilars of the company for hte next decades and were going to invest a lot of it.

And well, when Ono had all this ready then covid happened and destroyed all these plans. Made a first attempt to make eSports tournaments online but didn't make sense for USA vs Japan etc matches. So he quitted.

Max discussed this on Twitch last year.



He talks about how Ono wasn't fired, but he was demoted over the years at Capcom. What he Max doesn't say in this video (he mentioned during a Twitch stream) that SFV was going through development issues and some fighting game director of Capcom vs SNK has taken over. He also mentions that Covid has ruined Capcom plans to release this game earlier, too. Max said he has heard similar things, but didn't want to go into detail until the information was out there.

 

[JunkerWoland]

This would be my concern but then again, this is only a joint venture acquisition so Sony aren’t the only voice and I don’t think evo would survive as a partisan console manufacturer event, so I think Sony will not influence the direction too much.

There might be a bit more advertising, they might make a bigger deal of Evo in their own marketing and maybe it drives funding of titles but I don’t think it’ll suddenly become a PS only thing.

Over the past few years, Evo has essentially turned into the equivalent of a fighting game trade show, a place where companies want their current and future products to be seen by competitors, consumers, and business partners. The potential concern wouldn't be Evo becoming a Playstation-only event in terms of hardware representation, but rather Sony holding significant influence over the direction of the genre and individual titles. Essentially, if you want to be at Evo, you'll have to meet Sony's standards both as a business partner and in terms of software content. In recent years, we've already seen companies make concession for the event, itself, but now the promoter is also one of the key platform holders, which conceptually gives them a much bigger say in how the scene develops.

As for the other partner in this acquisition, they're a subsidiary of an esports production company; they're likely only involved, because Sony needs someone with experience in throwing & managing these types of events. Assuming Sony eventually finds Evo to be a fruitful acquisition, it won't be surprising, if they ultimately buyout this partner and take everything in-house.

More generally, if the acquisition's purpose was to give Sony a springboard into the competitive-event space, I don't see them acting as a passive agent.

 

[DForce]

Microsoft owns Smash? Did I miss something?

https://smash.gg/

Event organizer.

 

[DForce]

In terms of eSports, this isn't a particularly big "get" and it certainly doesn't fall into Sony's wheel house - they pretty much just make cinematic third persona action adventure games. It feels more like Sony boosting community relations by keeping a fan-favourite event alive, one that would be on its last legs after 2020 saw partners walk away, players refuse to participate, and the eventual cancellation of the event due to COVID-19.

PlayStation gamers tout PlayStation exclusives as their holy grail; if they're so good, why is there this rush for Sony to buy up something big? Are these exclusives suddenly not good enough? Very strange attitude. This buy-in feels like a "good buy Sony" moment, keeping EVO alive, instead of a "Sony countering Microsoft" moment with some big headline-grabbing acquisition. What a strange reaction...

Sony has been involved in the FGC for some time now.

Sony announces online PS4 tournament series, with headliners like Call of Duty and Mortal Kombat 11

‘Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, EA Sports FIFA 20, Mortal Kombat 11, Warface, NBA 2K20, SoulCalibur VI, and BlazBlue Cross...

www.destructoid.com

Announced by way of their official blog, Sony says that they're kicking off a new tournament series on June 1. It's called "PS4 Tournaments: Open Series," and will build off of 2019's Challenger Series. The idea is to get people competing in seven games (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, EA Sports FIFA 20, Mortal Kombat 11, Warface, NBA 2K20, SoulCalibur VI, and BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle) in weekly online tournaments for rewards (PS4 themes, elite avatars and cash prizes of $100 and "a share of" a $1000 prize pool). "High performing players" could also get invites to invitational tournaments.'

They're only expanding on what they have already been doing for some time now. If they're invested in the FGC, then they might as well buy the EVO brand.

 

[carlosrox]

Why?/I don't give a shit about EVO.

 

[hlm666]

I don't understand why there is a perception that evo is a big entity/compeititon? and it looks even more pointless without smash if you look at the participant numbers.

Evolution Championship Series 2019 - Event Results & Prize Money :: Esports Earnings

Evo 2019 prize pool, player earnings and tournaments on August 4, 2019.

www.esportsearnings.com

Largest Overall Prize Pools in Esports - Esports Tournament Rankings :: Esports Earnings

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www.esportsearnings.com

 

[Derktron]

This clearly does not make sense, Sony doesn’t have competitive games like Nintendo and hell even Microsoft does. I don’t understand why would they even buy EVO. I think Sony doesn’t know what’s it’s supposed to be doing.

 

[Derktron]

Wonder what this means for Smash...

I’m sure Nintendo would do their own events.

 

[pixelation]

LAAAAAAME!!!

 

[Derktron]

Its fine guys, Square Enix will follow next Wednesday

Okay and Nintendo is going to buy Capcom and Xbox.

 

[DForce]

I don't understand why there is a perception that evo is a big entity/compeititon? and it looks even more pointless without smash if you look at the participant numbers.

Evolution Championship Series 2019 - Event Results & Prize Money :: Esports Earnings

Evo 2019 prize pool, player earnings and tournaments on August 4, 2019.

www.esportsearnings.com

Largest Overall Prize Pools in Esports - Esports Tournament Rankings :: Esports Earnings

This list represents video game tournaments with the largest prize pools in esports. Tournament data is based on information published on the internet. Sources include news articles, forum posts, live report threads, interviews, official statements, reliable databases, VODs and other...

www.esportsearnings.com

Entrants are not a good indicator. The FGC is still small but it's still growing.

There are many great fighting game players who do not enter EVO because they're unable to travel. Players getting more sponsors and bigger prize pools could change that. They also recently started Evo Japan within the past few years.

This clearly does not make sense, Sony doesn’t have competitive games like Nintendo and hell even Microsoft does. I don’t understand why would they even buy EVO. I think Sony doesn’t know what’s it’s supposed to be doing.

Then why are they hosting tournaments every single week on their Twitch channel?

 

[PlayerPurple]

I don't understand why there is a perception that evo is a big entity/compeititon? and it looks even more pointless without smash if you look at the participant numbers.

Evolution Championship Series 2019 - Event Results & Prize Money :: Esports Earnings

Evo 2019 prize pool, player earnings and tournaments on August 4, 2019.

www.esportsearnings.com

Largest Overall Prize Pools in Esports - Esports Tournament Rankings :: Esports Earnings

This list represents video game tournaments with the largest prize pools in esports. Tournament data is based on information published on the internet. Sources include news articles, forum posts, live report threads, interviews, official statements, reliable databases, VODs and other...

www.esportsearnings.com

What you seem to be missing is that all of those high-prize pool tournaments are hosted/funded by their game’s publisher. Valve hosts the Dota tournaments, Blizzard hosts Overwatch League, etc.

EVO, however, is hosted primarily by FANS with funding help from sponsors. No grassroots org can compete with big pubs in prize pools, yet EVO’s already made a name for itself.

Think about how much bigger it’s about to get now that one of the biggest gaming publishers in the world will be funding it.

 

[reksveks]

What you seem to be missing is that all of those high-prize pool tournaments are hosted/funded by their game’s publisher. Valve hosts the Dota tournaments, Blizzard hosts Overwatch cup , etc.

EVO, however, is a fighting game tournament hosted primarily by FANS with funding help from sponsors. No grassroots org can compete with big pubs in prize pools, yet EVO’s already made a name for itself.

Think about how much bigger it’s about to get now that one of the biggest gaming publishers in the world will be funding it.

Isn't The International prize pool largely fan funded? But yeah, it's comparing apple to oranges.

 

[jm89]

This clearly does not make sense, Sony doesn’t have competitive games like Nintendo and hell even Microsoft does. I don’t understand why would they even buy EVO. I think Sony doesn’t know what’s it’s supposed to be doing.

Playstation has been one of the biggest supporters of the fgc for a while now. I don't find it surprising at all. This helps them push playstation as the place to play fighting games. It's marketing on the biggest fighting game stage.

And it probably didn't cost them much considering the damage that was done to evo with the stuff with the owner.

 

[PlayerPurple]

Isn't The International prize pool largely fan funded? But yeah, it's comparing apple to oranges.

Kind of. Their pools are partially funded by a percentage of season pass sales within the actual game. But Valve still throws in $1.6 million per year.

Compare that to EVO’s $200K total, even with sponsor help, in 2019. It’s no contest.

Having a huge publisher behind your tournament is a game changer.

 

[Life]

Now we ESPORTS

 

[skit_data]

This clearly does not make sense, Sony doesn’t have competitive games like Nintendo and hell even Microsoft does. I don’t understand why would they even buy EVO. I think Sony doesn’t know what’s it’s supposed to be doing.

One of the playstation youtube channels biggest playlists is this one:

 

[bender]

I think Sony doesn’t know what’s it’s supposed to be doing.

If only Derktron were running Sony.

 

[Dream-Knife]

I mean, this is potentially absolutely massive for the FGC. It was a big deal when ESPN hosted the SF5 finals a couple years back, that seems like it would be the norm when you have Sony budget and marketing behind it.

Also I enjoy how there are threads saying Sony is totally lost when it comes to multiplayer and esports (here is a good one), and here they are buying an esports company and the response is to ask why? lol

People that care about watching games aren't watching them on ESPN or traditional television.

 

[cireza]

Great. Can't wait for Sony to force the tournaments to be played on shit/rushed ports as they did with Street Fighter IV on PS4. Evo had to backtrack and run the tournament on 360 in the end.

 

[Heisenberg007]

If only Derktron were running Sony.

I find it hilarious that someone can point out and say that a company (and a division) doesn't know what it's doing when that company has been breaking records left, right, and center.

The company that has now become Japan's second most valuable company (up from #7 or #8 in just a few years) doesn't know what it's doing

 

[Rikku-X]

The top two fighting games by far are the least esports centric. And EVO is not realy big at all and was on it's breath. So I really hope Sony paid no more then 100k for this.

 

[Calverz]

Wasnt the evo creator found out to be a sexual abuser?

 

[Calverz]

smh at ppl down playing evo, have no idea

Dont think people are downplaying it. I think its more to do with the big picture. Like how will this help the average joe playstation user? The ones who dont play fighting games? When you compare to what microsoft are doing, surely you can understand this POV. Its great for fighting game fans....maybe? Ok its good for hardcore fighting fans of evo. Everybody else......not so sure.

 

[Shelookdlvl18]

DC fans - "Sony, should bring back Evo. Drive Club was awesome."

Jim Ryan - "Evo you say? Coming right up."

 

[hlm666]

Kind of. Their pools are partially funded by a percentage of season pass sales within the actual game. But Valve still throws in $1.6 million per year.

Compare that to EVO’s $200K total, even with sponsor help, in 2019. It’s no contest.

Having a huge publisher behind your tournament is a game changer.

25% of the battle pass goes to the prize pool, valve are taking more than they are giving then even after running costs. The audience size matters, fighting games just don't seem to be pulling the audience. When looking through that top 500 to see where the evo fell (it wasn't in the top 500) zotac (a low end pc hardware company) hosted a 300k fortnite comp. The top fighting game comp seems to be Capcom Cup (which people in this thread said Sony have already dropped money into Capcom for) and it topped out at 380k in 2019.

Capcom Cup 2019 - Tournament Results & Prize Money :: Esports Earnings

Capcom Cup 2019 prize pool and results in Los Angeles on December 15, 2019.

www.esportsearnings.com

I just don't understand what Sony is chasing with this, to me the sensible thing to do is make a league for their own games on psn. A ps5 Destruction Allstars comp would make more sense, could start something like the "playstation esport series" and they could add more sony games to it as time goes by like GT7 for example.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

In terms of eSports, this isn't a particularly big "get" and it certainly doesn't fall into Sony's wheel house - they pretty much just make cinematic third persona action adventure games. It feels more like Sony boosting community relations by keeping a fan-favourite event alive, one that would be on its last legs after 2020 saw partners walk away, players refuse to participate, and the eventual cancellation of the event due to COVID-19.

PlayStation gamers tout PlayStation exclusives as their holy grail; if they're so good, why is there this rush for Sony to buy up something big? Are these exclusives suddenly not good enough? Very strange attitude. This buy-in feels like a "good buy Sony" moment, keeping EVO alive, instead of a "Sony countering Microsoft" moment with some big headline-grabbing acquisition. What a strange reaction...

I think people want Sony to buy more studios because they feel Microsoft will literally buy them all up meaning that these cherished franchises and games might not come to PlayStation anymore. Despite Sony having a huge first party, third party games are also generally great sellers on PlayStation and if they aren’t on gamer’s preferred or favorite platform, then they feel it’s a monumental lost for them.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

25% of the battle pass goes to the prize pool, valve are taking more than they are giving then even after running costs. The audience size matters, fighting games just don't seem to be pulling the audience. When looking through that top 500 to see where the evo fell (it wasn't in the top 500) zotac (a low end pc hardware company) hosted a 300k fortnite comp. The top fighting game comp seems to be Capcom Cup (which people in this thread said Sony have already dropped money into Capcom for) and it topped out at 380k in 2019.

Capcom Cup 2019 - Tournament Results & Prize Money :: Esports Earnings

Capcom Cup 2019 prize pool and results in Los Angeles on December 15, 2019.

www.esportsearnings.com

I just don't understand what Sony is chasing with this, to me the sensible thing to do is make a league for their own games on psn. A ps5 Destruction Allstars comp would make more sense, could start something like the "playstation esport series" and they could add more sony games to it as time goes by like GT7 for example.

Yeah, admittedly I’m still kind of wondering or shall I say surprised that they did this. I’m assuming they probably wanted more market share or presence in the fighting game community mostly. What gets me is since seem to mostly care more about high production games that make millions of dollars(AAA games), yet most fighting games are as niche as it gets. Also, most fighters are made in Japan, so you know....umm.....we’ll see.

Then again, they probably didn’t spend that much to acquire EVO and it’s another category they can venture into that can garner them attention with the FGC. Should be quite interesting.

 

[Sony]

I can see why they thought they needed to do this. Sony was practically a sponsor of EVO, why waste money every EVO when you can partner with them and get all the exposure.

 

[The Cartographer]

This isn't arrogant Sony anymore, this is lunatic Sony.

 

[MagnesG]

Kind of. Their pools are partially funded by a percentage of season pass sales within the actual game. But Valve still throws in $1.6 million per year.

Compare that to EVO’s $200K total, even with sponsor help, in 2019. It’s no contest.

Having a huge publisher behind your tournament is a game changer.

With their own interests. Not sure EVO with Sony in charge will remain EVO.

 

[kyoji]

Dont think people are downplaying it. I think its more to do with the big picture. Like how will this help the average joe playstation user? The ones who dont play fighting games? When you compare to what microsoft are doing, surely you can understand this POV. Its great for fighting game fans....maybe? Ok its good for hardcore fighting fans of evo. Everybody else......not so sure.

MS have made a move that they desperately needed that made alot of sense for them in buying bethseda considering how far behind they were compared to sony and nintendo 1st party, so its not even a comparison. Its something they needed to do stay in the conversation. Sony games division is not reactionary they are proactive, i dont understand why some people continue to ignore that, theres only 5 generations now to use as evidence.

Sony buying evo doesnt effect how they go about bringing up studios now or in the future, They are an entertainment company and every gen people like to doubt them doom gloom whatever, but they have been market leader for years now in the gaming space and no doubt the most popular, and thats not to say arrogant sony is back it just means they are doing things right. Evoloution is the biggest open tournament for fighting games (a very underdog genre) with tons of room for growth, hardcore players and casuals alike attend evo, you dont have to be a pro, its essentially the world cup of fighting games and if you have been keeping up with what they have been doing the past few years it makes since for them to take a more prominent place in this space, with the right nuturing and backing fighting games can really take off, they are not just button mashers although thats how most approach them - they are much deeper than that.

 

[GymWolf]

INCREDIBLE NEWS.

Spoiler

 

[Papacheeks]

The Dusk Gollem SF6 + Ono being fired claims were proven to be totally fake. The game was still not under production, Ono wasn't its director, Ono retired for other reasons (covid destroying huge Capcom eSports plans for 2020 + health issues), leaked Capcom future released scheduled shown SF6 wasn't delayed but instead planned for late 2022 matching the timeframe mentioned in Ono's words made months/years before, Ono wasn't replaced by any female, etc.


They didn't mention it, but I assume that not much. Very likely less than what they pay for E3 stand. Most EVO staff were unpaid volunteers and prize pools were almost non-existent. It's a community event but made in Las Vegas. And due to the scandal almost every single company was cancelling it so it was basically dead.


Fighting games tournaments are traditionally played on PlayStation instead on PC because many players are mostly (or only) played on PlayStation and because it's cheaper to buy dozens for a tournament plus easier to make sure all the machines from all tournaments have exactly the same performance.

Where was this proven fake? I guess thats where my confusion comes from. So ono isn't director of SF6 or he is? I remember Maximilian dood had a bunch of stuff on this and he knows people within capcom as well. Specifically the people who work on street fighter.

 

[Snake29]

In terms of eSports, this isn't a particularly big "get" and it certainly doesn't fall into Sony's wheel house - they pretty much just make cinematic third persona action adventure games. It feels more like Sony boosting community relations by keeping a fan-favourite event alive, one that would be on its last legs after 2020 saw partners walk away, players refuse to participate, and the eventual cancellation of the event due to COVID-19.

PlayStation gamers tout PlayStation exclusives as their holy grail; if they're so good, why is there this rush for Sony to buy up something big? Are these exclusives suddenly not good enough? Very strange attitude. This buy-in feels like a "good buy Sony" moment, keeping EVO alive, instead of a "Sony countering Microsoft" moment with some big headline-grabbing acquisition. What a strange reaction...

So what you say is that Sony needs to do exactly what MS does, otherwise some of you are getting a bit nervous. I never understood why people are so concerned by Sony doing not the exact same as MS?

This just say they are comfortable with what they are doing instead just going after MS and doing the same. Otherwise people would say "look they are just trying to copy MS right now". Sony is big in the eSports with Gran Turismo Sports and fighting games:

PlayStation Competition Center | PlayStation Tournaments

Ready to play? Ready to watch? Visit the Competition Center at compete.playstation.com now.

compete.playstation.com

Overzicht FIA Certified Gran Turismo Championships 2020-serie - gran-turismo.com

www.gran-turismo.com

 

[Calverz]

MS have made a move that they desperately needed that made alot of sense for them in buying bethseda considering how far behind they were compared to sony and nintendo 1st party, so its not even a comparison. Its something they needed to do stay in the conversation. Sony games division is not reactionary they are proactive, i dont understand why some people continue to ignore that, theres only 5 generations now to use as evidence.

Sony buying evo doesnt effect how they go about bringing up studios now or in the future, They are an entertainment company and every gen people like to doubt them doom gloom whatever, but they have been market leader for years now in the gaming space and no doubt the most popular, and thats not to say arrogant sony is back it just means they are doing things right. Evoloution is the biggest open tournament for fighting games (a very underdog genre) with tons of room for growth, hardcore players and casuals alike attend evo, you dont have to be a pro, its essentially the world cup of fighting games and if you have been keeping up with what they have been doing the past few years it makes since for them to take a more prominent place in this space, with the right nuturing and backing fighting games can really take off, they are not just button mashers although thats how most approach them - they are much deeper than that.

Yea but you didnt address my original point. What does this do for me? As a ps5 owner who only dips in and out of fighting games? As an xbox owner, look at all the shit im getting on that.
This is why people are looking at this strangely.

 

[Life]

Yea but you didnt address my original point. What does this do for me? As a ps5 owner who only dips in and out of fighting games? As an xbox owner, look at all the shit im getting on that.
This is why people are looking at this strangely.

Why are you even reading this thread? Why does anything with "Sony" written on it attract a flood of fanboys? How can people be so narrow-minded as to only associate Sony with a fucking gaming console? And why is it the said fanboys pretend to know how to do business better than Sony itself?

Think on this: if this sort of news doesn't excite you, doesn't change anything for you, or make you feel anything....could it be, SOMEHOW, that you're not the fucking target audience?

 

[Kamina]

Okay and Nintendo is going to buy Capcom and Xbox.

You cant buy XBox silly, but Capcom is fair game

 

[kyoji]

Yea but you didnt address my original point. What does this do for me? As a ps5 owner who only dips in and out of fighting games? As an xbox owner, look at all the shit im getting on that.
This is why people are looking at this strangely.

https://smash.gg/ what does this do for you? you do realize ms acquired that right? This move made no sense at all for them seeing as how theyve been non existant in supporting the fighting game scene so what does that do for you as a gamer? please explain that. lol the point is mute, acquiring evo doesnt halt or impact sony doing something with a studio or not.
I addressed your original post, you are trying to compare a company that has had consistent output for 20 years to one that is trying to build a reputation like that. Theres no need to go out and make large purchases all the time when you already have the roots and foundation in place. Thats not to say get comfortable but if you examine ps4s output i think its safe to say they have not.

I also want to mention that on this very forum sony have been crucified for talking about things too far in advance, and they have done a better job in not doing that, but just because they arent talking about things or doing things doesnt mean things arent happening for the fanbase. Im a big fan of showing your worth not just talking about it. basically sony have not given any reason to doubt them or if they are still for gamers.

 

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Next week: Sony buys 25% stake in McDonalds.

Sony fans: "It's good exposure, think of all the happy meal toys!"