DeadMansParty
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it's emulated so the performance is all over the place. The PS5 has awful texture glitches with it, it's sad that it's the most accessible version. The PS3 ports were really solid except for the punch glitch.
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[RUMOR] CrazyLeaksonatrain (Leaker) leaks Bloodborne, Uncharted Collection, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War for PC
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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Fucking Jim ryan son of a bitchThat's how Jim Ryan spins it, i don't think anyone believes it tho.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Is a Blasfemy if Sony dare to put Bloodborne in PC after what they does to Japan Studio
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DonJuanSchlong
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I think it's awesome they want to make more money as a company, would like to expand their playability, and to have PC as the best hardware to play PS games on. Win win for everyone. No negative way to spin this at all, unless it's from a straight up unhinged fanboy.
Tallahassee
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I want TLOU1 on pc as well
ArtemisClydeFrog
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It'll be on Gamepass by the end of the year
//DEVIL//
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Yes... give me more reasons not to own a video game console this generation outside of Nintendo. Thank you.
Yeah I know they are old games. and the new games are probably PS5 exclusives... for a while.. till they hit on PC after few years but still... less reason to own a console really.
Yeah I know they are old games. and the new games are probably PS5 exclusives... for a while.. till they hit on PC after few years but still... less reason to own a console really.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
That's why most PC players don't get consoles except for switch. You know you'll get the games, and best version of the games. Plus you can emulate switch games better than the hardware itself.
OK, I gotta say, I'm calling BULLSHIT on all those people bitching "Well I've just traded in my PS5 and got a beast of a computer instead!", like no way is that possible, I'm still in a queue to get a new GPU, where are you hissy fit throwing mother fuckers getting these GPU's from?
Yerd
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I haven't bought a PS5 yet. Still hoping Demon's Souls comes out on PC. But, I nabbed a 3090FE from best buy when they added stock in january. Join the stock drops discord and get notified when the card you are looking for comes in. I wish I tried to get a 3080 instead, but I'm living with my almost-double-the-cost-for-not-the-equivalent-performance-gain choice.
Just ordered the waterblock from microcenter tonight, will have that installed soon.
Just ordered the waterblock from microcenter tonight, will have that installed soon.
ArtemisClydeFrog
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Perrott
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The negative way to spin this sort of things is that games like Horizon were released for PC with multiple enhancements in shadow quality and draw distances, plus 60fps and native 4K support, while PS5 players don't have any enhancements over the PS4 Pro version, which is inferior to the PC version with maxed out settings.
Days Gone on the PS5 would greatly benefit from a native 4K 30fps mode with the graphics improvements of the PC port in addition to the existing checkerboard 4K 60fps mode, but it is highly unlikely that said "favor resolution and graphics" mode would ever be a thing for PS5 players.
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StreetsofBeige
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The spin is that any fan in favour of walled gardens for their piece of plastic is right after all about PC ports.
All the PS gamers jump ship leaving the PS ecosystem, buy a good PC rig and buy PS games on Steam.
The amount of fear for gamers bailing for PC is incredibly high. Way higher than what Sony and Jim Ryan care about.
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Console gamers/fanboys as always are incredibly shortsighted. Releasing games on pc benefits them down the line.
Today you need a "gaming" PC to run ps4 ports but in a couple of years I guarantee that you will be able to run them in an office laptop with integrated graphics. MGS 4 Could have been played at 1080p 60 on integrated graphics right now if it was released on pc.
Instead you need an old ass ps3 to play it with mediocre IQ or a high end pc to play it in an emulator that's still in an alpha phase
Folks should cut the crap and ditch consoles and game on pc already. That way we would also end with the endless cycle of unnecessary remasters due to consoles and their generational approach.
We got a remaster for NFS hot pursuit, a game that still looks and runs great on very old pcs. Mass effect trilogy remaster. Bioshock... There's people wanting to remaster the Dead Space games... all those 7th gen games can be played on really low end HW at 1080p 60 fps and bought dirt cheap.
Today you need a "gaming" PC to run ps4 ports but in a couple of years I guarantee that you will be able to run them in an office laptop with integrated graphics. MGS 4 Could have been played at 1080p 60 on integrated graphics right now if it was released on pc.
Instead you need an old ass ps3 to play it with mediocre IQ or a high end pc to play it in an emulator that's still in an alpha phase
Folks should cut the crap and ditch consoles and game on pc already. That way we would also end with the endless cycle of unnecessary remasters due to consoles and their generational approach.
We got a remaster for NFS hot pursuit, a game that still looks and runs great on very old pcs. Mass effect trilogy remaster. Bioshock... There's people wanting to remaster the Dead Space games... all those 7th gen games can be played on really low end HW at 1080p 60 fps and bought dirt cheap.
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TaylorSwiftFan
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I think this gen will be a PS3-like gen for Sony. They’ll have to go back and think about what made the PS3 have a resurgence and the PS4 a success.
StreetsofBeige
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Sounds logical to me.
But what do you say to walled garden defenders who don't want PC gamers playing recent or older games at beefed up spec settings because it's makes their console settings look weak, and they want exclusives to feel special justifying buying a console?
DonJuanSchlong
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Agreed, the sooner games release on PC, is the sooner everyone in general can benefit from gaming as a whole. Consoles have been slowly becoming more and more like PC's, over the generations. Remember when console warriors would complain about how being able have a settings menu was a waste of time? Now they have options for framerates and image quality. VRR, raytracing, etc. All options that have been on PC for years now. The only problem is paying for hardware *upfront* for several people, even though you can reap the benefits of no online subscriptions, cheaper games/dlc, better performance/image quality, etc
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Xbox screwing things up since the launch of Kinect until the release of the Xbox one X. Basically handed Sony the eight gen in a silver platter.
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I'd say them to use the power of 2 braincells working in tandem and a couple of hours to learn how to game on PC. We are not in the 90s anymore. PC gaming couldn't be easier to get into.
Besides, on 2021 learning to use a computer is a skill as basic as writing or breathing.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Good point.
What if the guy says I know how to use PCs fine, but I want exclusives to support the console brand, where PC ports steal the thunder?
Well... I would diagnose an acute case of fanboysm.
I would let him know that that line of thought is incorrect. Consoles bread and butter are not the single player games Sony puts together but the most generic miltiplat MTX ridden games like FIFA and GTA.
As long as there are kids and casual players consoles should be fine.
bender
What time is it?
rofif
Banned
Look at gears of war 3. They did pbr back then and it looks completely different from 2
rofif
Banned
If you think owning a pc is so fun and blissful... It's the other way around. It's extremely expensive and something is always wrong. Console = ignorance is bliss.
I always have both since I can't stop. Pc is my blood. I sometimes wish it wasn't
Hypereides
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Not going to deny this move won't bring Sony some new additional cashflow, or has the potential to attract new buyers/fans, but those who claim this scenario is working entirely in their favor, through and through, are acting disingenuous to say the least. There seems to be some fanboys throughout this thread secretly rubbing one out or making gleeful gestures like this:
That said, it would be an overall first time for them to open up the sluicegates to this degree. That in itself makes it kinda risky. It could possibly cause a dent to the perception of their image and brand that'll be hard to revoke. Which, in return, could lead to impact their overall console revenue margins once the masses realise owning a shiny new PS box is just a redundant paperweight and start flocking towards PC instead.
Maybe that's what Ryan wants. Maybe he's attempting to do a smooth shift from being solely a console focused platform to more of a digital service/platform approach like Gamepass or some storefront like EG/GOG. There's definitely some potential in repurposing PS+ or PSNow that way. Digital has a wide range these days. A Sony CEO has previously gone on record stating "consoles are becoming niche". So, perhaps that is their ultimate endgoal and this is their way of handling that transition as vaguely as possible. Either way, it seems like a high-risk high-reward move. So, whatever Ryan is doing, hopefully he's certain that he's betting on the right horse.
Some day, when this is all said and done, I'd like to see some documentary which interviews prior CEOs in detail about what happened behind the curtains during the Sony years spanning from the PS3 up to the PS4.
That said, it would be an overall first time for them to open up the sluicegates to this degree. That in itself makes it kinda risky. It could possibly cause a dent to the perception of their image and brand that'll be hard to revoke. Which, in return, could lead to impact their overall console revenue margins once the masses realise owning a shiny new PS box is just a redundant paperweight and start flocking towards PC instead.
Maybe that's what Ryan wants. Maybe he's attempting to do a smooth shift from being solely a console focused platform to more of a digital service/platform approach like Gamepass or some storefront like EG/GOG. There's definitely some potential in repurposing PS+ or PSNow that way. Digital has a wide range these days. A Sony CEO has previously gone on record stating "consoles are becoming niche". So, perhaps that is their ultimate endgoal and this is their way of handling that transition as vaguely as possible. Either way, it seems like a high-risk high-reward move. So, whatever Ryan is doing, hopefully he's certain that he's betting on the right horse.
Some day, when this is all said and done, I'd like to see some documentary which interviews prior CEOs in detail about what happened behind the curtains during the Sony years spanning from the PS3 up to the PS4.
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TaylorSwiftFan
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Except desktops are basically obsolete these days. Who really own desktops other than PC gamers?
Interfectum
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For this expansion to make sense they need more software related tethers on their PC ports. PSN connectivity, cross save, cross play, etc. Otherwise they aren't really expanding the PS platform onto PC, more like becoming a third party publisher.
TrackZ
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PC to PS cross save would be excellent for these titles.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
turtlepowa
Banned
They already were/are via PS Now. The port just brings a much better quality.
ripeavocado
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ZippyTheOtter
Banned
They found a PS5, I think they could work their magic on a GPU.
But yes, bullshit comments.
Reality Czar
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What cinemas?
Blasphemy.
Guilty_AI
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yurinka
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It's something I missed on Street Fighter V. I think they don't do it due to cheats, revenue share of DLC and microtransactions, etc.
They are breaking gaming history records in terms of revenue for a console platform holder and in many other areas.
Unike MS they aren't expanding PS platform anywhere and don't need to do it, they are just getting some extra cash for a cheap cost by porting a few previous gen old games elsewhere and using them as marketing for upcoming sequels that will be released exclusively on their new console.
PS+PC crossplay can be implemented for games that want to implement it, as it's the case of the Street Fighter V case I mentioned. I'd love to have cross save too.
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yurinka
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They mentioned to have several plans to improve and expand PS Now during this next gen in many ways, being one of them to bring it to PC and mobile. Other ones were reviewing business model (hinting something that sounded like Stadia-like game purchases for those who don't own the console), improving performance or offerings.Not going to deny this move won't bring Sony some new additional cashflow, or has the potential to attract new buyers/fans, but those who claim this scenario is working entirely in their favor, through and through, are acting disingenuous to say the least. There seems to be some fanboys throughout this thread secretly rubbing one out or making gleeful gestures like this:
That said, it would be an overall first time for them to open up the sluicegates to this degree. That in itself makes it kinda risky. It could possibly cause a dent to the perception of their image and brand that'll be hard to revoke. Which, in return, could lead to impact their overall console revenue margins once the masses realise owning a shiny new PS box is just a redundant paperweight and start flocking towards PC instead.
Maybe that's what Ryan wants. Maybe he's attempting to do a smooth shift from being solely a console focused platform to more of a digital service/platform approach like Gamepass or some storefront like EG/GOG. There's definitely some potential in repurposing PS+ or PSNow that way. Digital has a wide range these days. A Sony CEO has previously gone on record stating "consoles are becoming niche". So, perhaps that is their ultimate endgoal and this is their way of handling that transition as vaguely as possible. Either way, it seems like a high-risk high-reward move. So, whatever Ryan is doing, hopefully he's certain that he's betting on the right horse.
Regarding PS Plus, it's way more successful in terms of revenue and userbase than Game Pass. And must be way more profitable because of the costs of the games they put there and not putting most of them day one.
They are breaking gaming industry historical records with hardware, software and service sales, or with revenue for a console platform owner. So I wouldn't expect big changes. Their current strategy works perfectly, they don't need to change it.
I think they will only tweak it by adding some extra revenue sources like licensing movies and tv shows of their IPs, making PC ports of some old games, bringing PS Now to more devices like smartphones and tablets, and maybe allowing to buy games for PS Now and to use PSVR2 on PC. They also seem to be refocusing the target for the small games they funded in the past, which many of them were country specific and now seem to support games with a more global appeal. All these things will help them grow their revenue this generation.
I think in everything else they will continue with their current, super successful strategy, more successful than anyone else. Investing hard in a ton of top notch 1st and 2nd party AAA games, a ton of 3rd party AAA or indie (timed? console) exclusive games, or at least having marketing deals with them. Expanding their own successful studios, restructuring the few ones who don't perform that well and acquiring the ones who did work successfully with them in the past. Fixing in the next gen version of their hardware (PSVR2) and services (PS Now) the main issues they had in the previous gen.
All these things would mean to continue the strategy they mentioned to have in the previous months or years. And sound like a perfect receipt to clearly dominate this generation again as they did in all the previous ones (with the PS3 as exception, where Wii, PS3 and 360 ended pretty close to each other).
With PS4 (and now PS5) Sony became the most successful console platform holder ever.
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StreetsofBeige
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PS Now has been accessible on PC since 2016.
Keihart
Member
Nothing says confidence like squeezing every penny like your are going out of business, closing studios, increasing game prices and selling your exclusives for some cash. Yes, Playstation looks super risky and ballsy right now, i can imagine the piles of cash they must be investing and how the stocks must be rising because of it.
ZywyPL
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Those movies won't be arriving in next few years, so (hopefully) the situation will be back to normal by then.
saintjules
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BigBooper
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Makes a lot of sense. Some Japanese companies seem to believe it wouldn't be profitable to come to xbox and pc, so MS guarantees a base level of money by paying them for Gamepass access. Hopefully a lot more will follow this.
Alright
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Fingers crossed that it's the kick up the arse the japanese need to get some fricking JRPG's back on xbox. Where da funk is our Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey Sequels?
saintjules
Member
Yeah I think this is going to be MS' alternative to get people on their side of the train tracks until they get their stream of games from their Studios. And if you have both consoles, its a glorious thing.
Kokoloko85
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The only one that is annoying would be Ghost of Tsushima. The game is barely a year old.... The rest are welcome on the PC lol
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
What about Gravity Rush 1&2 on PC?
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