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Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency, Blockchain, and You: Navigating the Future of Tech (a NeoGAF discussion thread)

Hnjohngalt

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The American Etfs are supposed to get approved and start by june or july in Bitcoin. When this happens, Goldman Sachs and JPmorgan will be selling Bitcoin in stocks basically. I can't see this market crashing anytime soon. The guys i watch say september or maybe not till january. And even then only with a 50% or less correction.

I am new to this so i have no idea for sure. All i know like stock and real estate, the longer you hold the more money you usually make.
 

Ascend

Member
The American Etfs are supposed to get approved and start by june or july in Bitcoin. When this happens, Goldman Sachs and JPmorgan will be selling Bitcoin in stocks basically. I can't see this market crashing anytime soon. The guys i watch say september or maybe not till january. And even then only with a 50% or less correction.

I am new to this so i have no idea for sure. All i know like stock and real estate, the longer you hold the more money you usually make.
This cycle is going to be harder to predict than the previous ones... Normally, I would say to just look at the charts and that alone tells the whole story...
But now... With the amount of dollars being printed... Things might go quite differently than previous cycles. A bit of fundamental knowledge seems useful.

In previous market cycles, BTC had multiple 30% - 40% corrections during the bull market. This year, we've had one 30% correction, one 25% correction, and one 15% correction. The corrections seem to be getting smaller... Additionally, the way the price is currently behaving, it is not akin to a market cycle top. The price remained stable for too long to be considered a market cycle top, because generally the top is sold quite quickly. But we'll see... Everyone is waiting for a correction. So it might indeed not happen for now.

But I must remain vigilant. It is equally possible that we get a correction that will 'compensate' for the lack of deep enough corrections that we have had the last few months. The reason I'm saying that we might get one in the next two days, is because the pi cycle just flashed a 'top' signal. That means that within 3 days of the flashing, there is a new ATH and then a large correction. We have the signal, we have the new all time high right now, all that remains, is the crash.
But it is the only chart signaling this right now, and pretty much everything else is saying we have a lot more potential upside this market cycle. But it's always wise to consider all sides of the equation. If nothing happens this week, I'm more confident that we will simply go up until May. In May I will be vigilant again, around the middle of the month.
 
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This cycle is going to be harder to predict than the previous ones... Normally, I would say to just look at the charts and that alone tells the whole story...
But now... With the amount of dollars being printed... Things might go quite differently than previous cycles. A bit of fundamental knowledge seems useful.

In previous market cycles, BTC had multiple 30% - 40% corrections during the bull market. This year, we've had one 30% correction, one 25% correction, and one 15% correction. The corrections seem to be getting smaller... Additionally, the way the price is currently behaving, it is not akin to a market cycle top. The price remained stable for too long to be considered a market cycle top, because generally the top is sold quite quickly. But we'll see... Everyone is waiting for a correction. So it might indeed not happen for now.

But I must remain vigilant. It is equally possible that we get a correction that will 'compensate' for the lack of deep enough corrections that we have had the last few months. The reason I'm saying that we might get one in the next two days, is because the pi cycle just flashed a 'top' signal. That means that within 3 days of the flashing, there is a new ATH and then a large correction. We have the signal, we have the new all time high right now, all that remains, is the crash.
But it is the only chart signaling this right now, and pretty much everything else is saying we have a lot more potential upside this market cycle. But it's always wise to consider all sides of the equation. If nothing happens this week, I'm more confident that we will simply go up until May. In May I will be vigilant again, around the middle of the month.

BTC had a new ATH today, didn't it? That signaled a crash in 2-3 days afterwards, according to that model. Of course, Coinbase is going public in that period, which, to me, seems like it should drive Bitcoin and everything else even higher. It's really hard to make a decision now.
 
Yo is this thread just for cryptos or can we discuss blockchain techs being used to build the Web 3.0?

If it’s the latter does anyone have any experience using skynet? I just started using it. It’s a decentralized storage. The tech behind it seems to work well but I’m still worried about using it to store anything crucial lol. I don’t doubt the encryption but can’t trust a tech that is so new. I’m excited to see if skynet will get on the polkadot blockchain in the future.
Blockchain is the real winner, crypto has just been its first "killer app". With that being said, web 3.0 has a ways to go but it is looking VERY promising. I have not used skynet but will do some digging on this and come back with an opinion for you.

The best Web 3.0 tech I have worked with quite a lot is IPFS; This tech still needs a bit of work to make it more user friendly as the UI and terminolgy is quite technical. With that being said, it works and it works very well if you know what you are doing. What a life, as majority of us have gotten to live through Web 1.0, 2.0, and hopefully 3.0 :D
 
TFW i missed 30% gain because i lost faith in ETH and converted it all into Bitcoin. EVERYONE TOLD ME ETH WAS DEAD AHHHhH

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CloudNull

Banned
Blockchain is the real winner, crypto has just been its first "killer app". With that being said, web 3.0 has a ways to go but it is looking VERY promising. I have not used skynet but will do some digging on this and come back with an opinion for you.

The best Web 3.0 tech I have worked with quite a lot is IPFS; This tech still needs a bit of work to make it more user friendly as the UI and terminolgy is quite technical. With that being said, it works and it works very well if you know what you are doing. What a life, as majority of us have gotten to live through Web 1.0, 2.0, and hopefully 3.0 :D

Yeah everyone is so excited about the money they can make with Crypto but blockchain is were my interest truly lies. There are so many great technologies being developed right now that very few people are discussing. The birth of Web 3.0 has been glorious but it still has tons of questions of standardization that need to be resolved. Currently I am rooting for Polkadot to become the majority but still tons of blockchains I am not aware of. It will be interesting if any of the big players such as Google, Microsoft, or Facebook get involved. I would prefer another company to rise up..... if only Elon Musk had the energy for one more company lol.
 

Ascend

Member
But i kept reading that Vitalik is MIA and ETH in unscalable. FUCK
Imagine having 2 BTC in 2011 and losing them because your PC was acting up and you deleted everything. (That's me)

Imagine having 7500 BTC and you lost them because you threw away the hard drive in 2013 due to a whiny girlfriend saying the miner is too loud.

Or imagine having 10k BTC and buying two pizzas with them back in 2010.

Someone always has it worse than you.
Welcome to crypto, and don't forget to be happy with your gains.
 
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godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
But i kept reading that Vitalik is MIA and ETH in unscalable. FUCK
From who? Vitalik is focused, and ETH2.0 continues inching closer.
There is VC money going into NFT based projects.
People are staking their ETH, thus making it more scarce.
Coinbase is about to go IPO at ~100B
Dozens of ETH based tokens and scalability projects are successful.
Etc.

The list could go on I guess. The point is that ETH has amazing momentum.
 
From who? Vitalik is focused, and ETH2.0 continues inching closer.
There is VC money going into NFT based projects.
People are staking their ETH, thus making it more scarce.
Coinbase is about to go IPO at ~100B
Dozens of ETH based tokens and scalability projects are successful.
Etc.

The list could go on I guess. The point is that ETH has amazing momentum.
I know. I got fucking duped. I jumped in at 1000$ as well.
 

Ascend

Member
I know. I got fucking duped. I jumped in at 1000$ as well.
It may sound like I'm preaching. But really... I know you feel bad. And that's perfectly fine. We all go through it, one way or another. No one ever got good at trading/investing without mistakes. Losing money is always painful.

3rd rule of trading and investing: Don't blame others nor beat yourself up too much when you make a mistake, but rather think of how you can do better next time to avoid the same thing from happening. There are always more opportunities in the markets.

You can do two things right now.
1) Wait for a correction and rebuy at a similar price that you sold as. The risk is that it might never go that low again, or that it will take a couple of years to do so, and you'll be stuck with your (hyper)inflating fiat for that whole time.
2) Rebuy right now, be it ETH or another coin. The risk is that it drops more just after you buy, and you'll beat yourself up again. But at that point your best bet is to simply hold until it goes higher again.

I would look for a coin that is either in capitulation or in accumulation, and buy that.

4th rule of trading and investing: Never use money that you cannot afford to lose.
 

Ascend

Member
What's the general opinion on XRP? Gonna crash or skyrocket?

I may buy some if the price lowers.
It has been undervalued compared to the rest of the market due to the whole SEC thing in the US. In all honesty, I expect XRP to regain it's 3rd position in market cap, and it shouldn't be too far off from ETH. It has flipped ETH before, and it can do it again. And even if it doesn't, I expect the price to at least double from here, but I can't rule out a correction.
 
It may sound like I'm preaching. But really... I know you feel bad. And that's perfectly fine. We all go through it, one way or another. No one ever got good at trading/investing without mistakes. Losing money is always painful.

3rd rule of trading and investing: Don't blame others nor beat yourself up too much when you make a mistake, but rather think of how you can do better next time to avoid the same thing from happening. There are always more opportunities in the markets.

You can do two things right now.
1) Wait for a correction and rebuy at a similar price that you sold as. The risk is that it might never go that low again, or that it will take a couple of years to do so, and you'll be stuck with your (hyper)inflating fiat for that whole time.
2) Rebuy right now, be it ETH or another coin. The risk is that it drops more just after you buy, and you'll beat yourself up again. But at that point your best bet is to simply hold until it goes higher again.

I would look for a coin that is either in capitulation or in accumulation, and buy that.

4th rule of trading and investing: Never use money that you cannot afford to lose.
I moved all the money into BTC. Still made around 50% instead of 80%. I actually had some money clear up recently and have no idea what to invest in. Crypto feels like we are in the middle end of the cycle. Not worth the risk. And stocks feel bad now. Any tips?
 

Ascend

Member
I moved all the money into BTC. Still made around 50% instead of 80%. I actually had some money clear up recently and have no idea what to invest in. Crypto feels like we are in the middle end of the cycle. Not worth the risk. And stocks feel bad now. Any tips?
You can put some stable coin out for lending and gain something like 8% APY, depending on the platform.

Either that, or buy PAX Gold. Not only is it tied to Gold, it is actually backed by physical gold.
 
I moved all the money into BTC. Still made around 50% instead of 80%. I actually had some money clear up recently and have no idea what to invest in. Crypto feels like we are in the middle end of the cycle. Not worth the risk. And stocks feel bad now. Any tips?

if youre looking for short term gains, you can prob throw a dart at most tokens and make something still this cycle, but of course timing the peak and getting out accordingly is the hard part. its a still a bull market with barely any analytical indications of an end in sight.
 

Raphael

Member
I am disgusted about the % returns i have on crypto in just 2 months. I entered mid feb due to fomo and i made over 100%.
Now im pissed i havent went in harder but i wont add more now as its so inflated, but then i Will probably be pissed again i didnt eneter now in a month or two.
This isnt sustainable right? Or should i fomo in more?
 
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Ascend

Member
I am disgusted about the % returns i have on crypto in just 2 months. I entered mid feb due to fomo and i made over 100%.
Now im pissed i havent went in harder but i wont add more now as its so inflated, but then i Will probably be pissed again i didnt eneter now in a month or two.
This isnt sustainable right? Or should i fomo in more?
What I would do in this position, is look for coins with good fundamentals that have not yet broken their all-time highs.
 

PSlayer

Member
I am disgusted about the % returns i have on crypto in just 2 months. I entered mid feb due to fomo and i made over 100%.
Now im pissed i havent went in harder but i wont add more now as its so inflated, but then i Will probably be pissed again i didnt eneter now in a month or two.
This isnt sustainable right? Or should i fomo in more?
Me too! i entered in late jan/early feb and overall made 400%. I'm so mad i didn't go balls deep with my money but it's better than lose everything right?
 

Hnjohngalt

Member
Longterm 5 years from now it will be higher. Most old guards think Bitcoin will go to 300k this year. Alt coins will follow 6x or more till then. I think 150k is more likely this year by december. Im not a financial guy. Just read and watch alot of news on net. Im dropping more in next month, once i get money moved around. Not all, but ill do 25% of my portfolio in crypto.
 
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Ascend

Member
Longterm 5 years from now it will be higher. Most old guards think Bitcoin will go to 300k this year. Alt coins will follow 6x or more till then. I think 150k is more likely this year by december. Im not a financial guy. Just read and watch alot of news on net. Im dropping more in next month, once i get money moved around. Not all, but ill do 25% of my portfolio in crypto.
Anything between 100k to 400k is viable for BTC. I know that's a big range. But crypto is simply too unpredictable to give narrow ranges. Even if you don't get the top, chances are that it will drop way below that anyway, and you can rebuy lower later. So if you sell at 150k and it goes to 300k, don't really sweat it. It will likely be at 150k again at some point.

I expect the next bear market to bottom somewhere between 40k and 60k, but I might change that outlook depending on how high we go in this bull market.
 
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Wvrs

Member
I bought 4000 DOGE at 0.05 so made a nice little return so far, gonna hold still. But it was a very uninformed decision to buy it and now it's got me interested in crypto.

I've got a bunch of savings that I'm not doing anything with, where's a good place to get started and learn?
 
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