Ass of Can Whooping
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So you'd be fine if they paid more money to make the timed exclusive a permanent exclusive because.....it somehow makes you feel better mentally?
Fucking wierd man
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Jeff Grubb: "Starfield is exclusive to Xbox and PC. Period."
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So you'd be fine if they paid more money to make the timed exclusive a permanent exclusive because.....it somehow makes you feel better mentally?
Fucking wierd man
I wouldn't buy any of those games.
Why do you insist on twisting what I say?
If a game is announced as a PlayStation/xbox/nintendo/pc game, I'm like "okay, cool, new game"
If it's a timed exclusive, well, I've already explained it. Not gonna waste time on doing it again.
If a game is announce to be multiplatform but then someone comes in and moneyhats it to be lifetime exclusive on one, then that is of course a dick move.
Starfield
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Starfield rumor claims Tom Cruise is starring in Bethesda's new game
Could Bethesda be recruiting some heavyweight Hollywood talent for their new RPG?
www.gamesradar.com
before you ask, I know nothing about that.
I only know BGS tweeted to him in 2018, after E3
They got Patrick Stewart and Liam Neeson for Oblivion and Fallout 3 respectively, so I wouldn't put it past them if they somehow get Tom Cruise.Starfield rumor claims Tom Cruise is starring in Bethesda's new game
Could Bethesda be recruiting some heavyweight Hollywood talent for their new RPG?
before you ask, I know nothing about that.
I only know BGS tweeted to him in 2018, after E3
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Okay so which is worse between the two
HoofHearted
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OMG this thread is still going????
Jemm
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Starfield rumor claims Tom Cruise is starring in Bethesda's new game
Could Bethesda be recruiting some heavyweight Hollywood talent for their new RPG?
before you ask, I know nothing about that.
I only know BGS tweeted to him in 2018, after E3
I'm not gonna waste my time choosing between a shit and a turd.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
So you think a timed exclusive is just as bad as a permenent one?
If you bothered to read what I say, you'd know how I feel about this. The only time a full on exclusive (as in never coming elsewhere) is as bad as a timed exclusive, is when that exclusivity comes after the game has been announced for other platforms. As in, game is announced for PC/Xbox/Switch/PlayStationm, and is then suddenly moneyhatted to be lifetime exclusive on only one of them.
If that isn't clear enough for you, I don't know what to tell you.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
So, for example Starfield is okay because they never technically announced platforms even though we all knew for the past couple of years up until the beginning of this year it was coming to PS
But I guess for your narrative we can pretend that platforms were still up in the air
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ManaByte
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Starfield rumor claims Tom Cruise is starring in Bethesda's new game
Could Bethesda be recruiting some heavyweight Hollywood talent for their new RPG?
before you ask, I know nothing about that.
I only know BGS tweeted to him in 2018, after E3
Pull n Pray
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The reality is that Microsoft needed exclusives to compete with Sony. And ultimately I think the benefits to consumers from thriving competition outweigh the costs of exclusivity. And this is especially the case with Xbox exclusives since you can play them on PC. And if your PC isn't powerful enough, you can play via xCloud. For a game like Starfield, a little latency wouldn't hurt the experience that much.
Starfield
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Yeah , my "narrative". I think this is a grey area since Starfield was known, but I wouldn't expect sony to allow Kingdom hearts 4 on Xbox if they bought squeenix, so whatever. It is what it is. They own it, they can do what they want with. Doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is moneyhatting things just to keep them away from others.
I'll end this here, I'm just repeating the same answers to slightly different questions anyways.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Really? They showed a logo.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yes we simply don't know if they were developing for the PS platform before the buy
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HoofHearted
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Honestly - does it really matter anymore? Business acquisitions occur all the time. As a direct result of those acquisitions, previous plans and priorities often fall to the wayside...
Granted - there's some ongoing vagueness on a few games from the various updates since the acquisition - however, there are some very specific blurbs from MS execs on the current and future state of the Bethesda IP gained from the buyout that clearly outline future planned direction of exclusivity focused on the Xbox "platform" (XSX/S + PC)...
Reading various articles and statements - It's very clear that, outside of immediate games largely completed or already contracted (i.e. Deathloop / Ghostwire), any "previous" PS platform development or plans are simply no longer a priority.
As a direct result, it's highly unlikely we'll ever see any further Bethesda IP on PS platform beyond these 2 games (unless there's a deal negotiated between MS and Sony to allow GP on PS platforms..)...
ChuckeRearmed
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I agree. When the game is not coming to the console - it is what it is. But when it is timed it is just mocking other people, like creating second class people. The worse when it extended too.
In fact 95% of people who say that timed exclusives are better are the ones who won't have to wait to play the game in the first place
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Well if it was already announced for PS, they should release it on PS. Starfield doesn't really interest me on account on not knowing much about it, so I haven't followed it.
How about you drop this juvenile us vs them console bullshit and try having an actual conversation for a change.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
This is rich coming from you
ManaByte
Gold Member
It wasn't. Bethesda showed a logo of it at their E3 press conference. No platforms were named.
JCK75
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I have to be honest, other than the fact it's being made by Bethesda have we seen anything about Starfield that woudl have us excited for it? all i've seen are some very meh early screenshots. I say this as someone who loves gamepass and my xbox. I mean don't get my wrong I hope it's better than anything they have ever done but I can't have an opinion until I see something.
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If there is a point to any of this, feel free to make it.
Uh, okay, guess i misunderstood you. I meant is was known as in, we known the game is being made, and that is all.
Umbasaborne
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Would bethesda games have “always sucked anyway” if this was a playstation exclusive? 
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
All i'm saying is the pot is calling the kettle black
If Bend Studio announced a new ip, it would have a lot of people on this forum very excited. Never mind if it was Naughty dog.
I suspect the fact that the makers of Fallout and Skyrim have announced their first new IP in 20 years is almost close to that.
tmlDan
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I personally think they have sucked for a long time, on PS or not. Outdated combat, tons of ridiculous game crashing bugs, mediocre story.Would bethesda games have “always sucked anyway” if this was a playstation exclusive?
The only thing i like, and i hope with MS this doesn't change, is the modding community.
Edit: i'm talking about bethesda made games, not the rest of the studios, love the wolfenstein and dishonored series <3
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JCK75
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I loved Skyrim and really liked Fallout 4 but see where they both are lesser in many areas than previous games in the series.
I mean I'm excited about the idea of them making a new franchise but what I've seen so far is lackluster at best..
I find it unlikely that any changes MS made to development approaches will meaningfully alter games designed as multiplatform before the purchase, unless the game was still far from being in a releasable state. Going forward sure, why not right, and there's no doubt they will be focusing on efficiency going forward either. Keeping the pipeline stocked, eventually anyway, is going to be vital to their strategy of course.
As for xcloud on PS5, I wouldn't hold your breath. We've already seen evidence of how tightly Sony protects its closed market thanks to the Epic / Apple lawsuit. Theoretically possible, but it would require MS and Sony to cut a deal, and I see that kind of deal as unlikely. If MS wants to sell games on PS5 that's simple enough, but a deal to compensate Sony (if they would even entertain it) for allowing MS to expand its reach via xcloud on PS5 would be a tough one. I'm not sure even MS would be remotely interested since Sony would probably want access to data that MS tightly guards to derive a compensation formula.
Finally, cheers for being grounded in reality on the uncertainty caused by the vagueness. It's almost absurd how people claim its conclusively established despite just how much wiggle room every public statement has left (as of yesterday at least, haven't checked news yet today). I 100% agree that MS is probably looking to use the acquired IP's to expand its catalogue of console exclusives, and your rationale for the vagueness is as reasonable as anyone's.
So that's a no then. Good, let's drop this and move on.
Heh, I remember back when Morrowind came out. I don't think I was more hyped for a game. And then I started playing, and just couldn't get into it. I loved the world and the mood, but I just kinda got lost and walk aimlessly around, something which has affected most of my time with Bethsoft games.
The only game I actually finished from them was Fallout 3.
Also, their animation has been an issue for decades.
Andodalf
Banned
Lol, it's funny, I've been hard 2021 camp but am starting to see 2022 Spring as more likley.
sinisterpanda
Neo Member
If Starfield was going to be a Playstation exclusive no one would argue over it for 16 pages. Seems like Microsoft is doing some things right.
Pedro Motta
Member
Why would it go head to head with Halo Infinite? Makes no sense a 2021 release date.
Starfield
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if you believe in ladder anything can happen, believe in ladder
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Gavon West
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Accept even your post makes no sense. Zenimax WANTED to be bought. Microsoft had the money to make that happen. Nothing has been moneyhatted.
I can't believe how daft and entitled Sony gamers can be. 16 fucking pages of this same shit that was cleared up months ago. If whatever the hell you game on doesn't have GP, you ain't playing Starfield or any other title released under the Zenimax/Microsoft banner. How much clearer can it get?? That means PS5 and Switch. Holy shit.....
What are you talking about? I game on every platfrom, I love game pass, and I know Zenimax wanted this.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
With MS saying games will be first or best on Xbox.
That they will fulfill prior contract obligations.
And not giving a actual list of what is or isn't *exclusive*
They been QUIET.
Leaves a few possible scenarios.
ZehDon
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
When more than the two known Zenimax games release on other platforms you will see.
captainnapalm
Member
Well I never cheered on PS exclusives so I'm not going to do it now that it benefits me as a PC gamer. Exclusives are bad for the industry, but since it's a game Sony insist on playing - I guess they gave Microsoft no choice but to fight fire with fire.
That's an opinion, even though i don't agree with, that's completely legit. Now there are some people that were all excited for Bethesda games and now they are shit.
ZehDon
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I can just keep posting that gif if you’d like?
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