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[hyperbertha]

All the talk about Forbidden West these days have gotten me thinking

more about my 70 plus hours with the original game and how, despite my enjoyment of it, I couldn't find myself relating to most characters in the game, especially Aloy.

Reasons why she can be a Mary sue:

- No real flaws. Nada. Tendency to get angry

but whenever she is angry she turns out to be right, proving to be wiser than even experienced rulers far older than her.

- Extreme physical prowess, that surpasses everybody else due to genetics apparently, despite a training environment inferior to other hunters who had way more resources and help to train with.

- Is hit on constantly by male characters. Never has to earn anybody's attention.
- Overflowing with love and compassion for everybody else, and goes out of her way to show concerned facial expressions in every darn cinematic.

- Does not ever fail meaningfully. Never has to learn a lesson. She teaches everybody else lessons. People older than her usually. Succeeds at every endeavor she undertakes with no meaningful effort from her part to improve.

- Social skills rivaling a politician, despite being a wildling for a lifetime.

So is Aloy a believable character dear gaffing boys and girls?

 

[FoundryMusic]

What's happening to this forum?

 

[elliot5]

who cares. I don't try and determine if Nathan Drake is the male equivalent of a Mary Sue, I just play the game.

 

[SJRB]

It's a game, not a movie. I don't play games to fail at things, I play to win.

What good is a game where the main playable character CAN'T do things?

 

[Miles708]

Basically all rpg/action characters have these traits.

 

[sobaka770]

Most game protagonists are.
Fake fat Aloy screenshots totally show your bias. Another shitpost.

 

[Mentat02]

don't know about Mary Sue but she has a big ass head and looks like a dude.

 

[Warnen]

It’s a video game, if it was a real life you would be the villages potato sales person.

 

[Saucy Papi]

What's happening to this forum?

 

[//DEVIL//]

don't know about Mary Sue but she has a big ass head and looks like a dude.

yup. she is becoming fat and ugly. just like most resetera members.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Garbage

 

[hyperbertha]

Most game protagonists are.
Fake fat Aloy screenshots totally show your bias. Another shitpost.

What fake fat? Those are ingame screenshots and I don't have a problem with her look in the game. Don't care.

 

[Trogdor1123]

She was based off the genetics of a brilliant person and grown by an ai to save the world... I'm really sure they would have left that all to chance...

 

[TwistedSyn]

It's a fucking videogame!

 

[Saucy Papi]

she is becoming fat and ugly. just like how its acceptable to be a resete
yup. she is becoming fat and ugly. just like most resetera members.

 

[TheMan]

For anyone who doens't know what a Mary Sue is (although it's implied in the OP I guess):
It's a female character who is unrealistically perfect, free of any flaws.

 

[shaddam]

I really hate that gaming as a hobby became popular

 

[JeloSWE]

I mean, she is killing machine dinosaurs as large as a T-Rex. The game is a fantasy, I don't need a realistic hero, I want a fantastical hero. The main character is just a conduit for me to experience the world and I much preferer to feel powerful and righteous. I also prefer good looking characters than realistic. I want them to look like a muscular Thor/He-men or sexy 2B rather than some neutered down version pandering to easily offended/hurt/insecure people.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Based on what you said and what i know, i wouldn't say shes a mary sue, just a boring character in general.

What's happening to this forum?

thats normal gaming forum-ing

 

[kyliethicc]

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

It's a videogame man, I hope she is.

 

[Ulysses 31]

It's a fucking videogame!

What a meaningless argument, you could handwave everything away with that one.

It's a story driven game and thus the quality of the writing and character development do matter more.

 

[Markio128]

 

[Kilau]

Considering who and what she is, no. She’s an amazing character.

 

[Entroyp]

Aloy disturbed the fuck out of some people here.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

Is the protagonist in a fantasy make believe game in a world over run by robot dinosaurs realistic?

 

[Gaelyon]

Is the Doom Slayer a Henry Sue ? How much stupider GAF can be with those troll/insecure threads ?

 

[fallingdove]

I think each of your examples are a stretch op.

ZD begins with Aloy's failure. She trains from a very young age and has access to technology that very few do to help her along the way. She is far from perfect. she is a mass murderer who wasn't strong enough to save her friends or adopted father from a bandit invasion. Even though she cares about the world, her core intentions are pretty selfish, i.e. her discovery is centered around learning about her own origins rather than some overwhelming pursuit of purity and order.

If anything, this feels more like a standard heroes journey than a protagonist with Mary Sue characteristics.

 

[rodrigolfp]

70 plus hours with the original game

70+??? Did you play without HUD and got lost a lot? Did you sleep a lot while playing?

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

What's happening to this forum?

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

 

[Guilty_AI]

Aloy disturbed the fuck out of some people here.

i mean, you can't tell me this isn't disturbing

 

[Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper]

All the talk about Forbidden West these days have gotten me thinkin

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more about my 70 plus hours with the original game and how, despite my enjoyment of it, I couldn't find myself relating to most characters in the game, especially Aloy.

Reasons why she can be a Mary sue:

- No real flaws. Nada. Tendency to get angry

but whenever she is angry she turns out to be right, proving to be wiser than even experienced rulers far older than her.

- Extreme physical prowess, that surpasses everybody else due to genetics apparently, despite a training environment inferior to other hunters who had way more resources and help to train with.

- Is hit on constantly by male characters. Never has to earn anybody's attention.
- Overflowing with love and compassion for everybody else, and goes out of her way to show concerned facial expressions in every darn cinematic.

- Does not ever fail meaningfully. Never has to learn a lesson. She teaches everybody else lessons. People older than her usually. Succeeds at every endeavor she undertakes with no meaningful effort from her part to improve.

- Social skills rivaling a politician, despite being a wildling for a lifetime.

So is Aloy a believable character dear gaffing boys and girls?

All the talk about Forbidden West these days have gotten me thinking

more about my 70 plus hours with the original game and how, despite my enjoyment of it, I couldn't find myself relating to most characters in the game, especially Aloy.

Reasons why she can be a Mary sue:

- No real flaws. Nada. Tendency to get angry

but whenever she is angry she turns out to be right, proving to be wiser than even experienced rulers far older than her.

- Extreme physical prowess, that surpasses everybody else due to genetics apparently, despite a training environment inferior to other hunters who had way more resources and help to train with.

- Is hit on constantly by male characters. Never has to earn anybody's attention.
- Overflowing with love and compassion for everybody else, and goes out of her way to show concerned facial expressions in every darn cinematic.

- Does not ever fail meaningfully. Never has to learn a lesson. She teaches everybody else lessons. People older than her usually. Succeeds at every endeavor she undertakes with no meaningful effort from her part to improve.

- Social skills rivaling a politician, despite being a wildling for a lifetime.

So is Aloy a believable character dear gaffing boys and girls?

Lord where to even begin with this.

1: "No real flaws" From the very beginning of the game you see she has anger issues. Her obsession with learning about who her mother takes precedent on building any kind of relationship with anyone else. maybe not serious flaws, but damn nowhere was it ever implied that she is perfect.

2: "Extreme physical prowess, that surpasses everybody else due to genetics apparently" Where the hell you deduce this from? There was a training montage, where yeah only a few minutes if you did the math she was training for OVER TEN YEARS. Nothing about that at all is genetics that's hard damn work to get to where she was.

3: "Overflowing with love and compassion for everybody else, " This is a bad thing? As soon as she became a seeker, Teersa said "no doubt there will be people in need of help" In essence helping people was part of the job.

4: "Is hit on constantly by male characters. Never has to earn anybody's attention." Technically she was only hit one by Erend. Avad felt it was dutiful to have a replacement for Erasa. Aloy, basically hit on Varl, not the other way around. And Nil, was Nil. So no, you're off on that one as well.

Lastly

5: "So is Aloy a believable character dear gaffing boys and girls" Let's see Horizon is a franchise that takes place a thousand years in the future where after an apocalypse created by robots that ate people and plants as food, where primitive people rebuild society while dealing with robot animals and dinosaurs. What the hell about any of that is believable? What most normal people do is check reality at the door and not bring our everyday crap into it and have fun few hours.

 

[Entroyp]

i mean, you can't tell me this isn't disturbing

It’s fucking funny

 

[TonyK]

What is a Mary Sue?

 

[Chiggs]

Can we please, please get back to insulting her physical appearance, rather than criticizing her personality and narrative arc?

Thanks!

 

[cireza]

Ok everyone. I don't give a f*** about PS and Horizon.

But still.

I have been seeing this picture all around the forum, so I need to know something : is this really taken from the game ? Or is this a photoshop ?

 

[Pilgrimzero]

Ok everyone. I don't give a f*** about PS and Horizon.

But still.

I have been seeing this picture all around the forum, so I need to know something : is this really taken from the game ? Or is this a photoshop ?

Like most Gotcha Pics its one frame of a huge trailer that Incels like to throw up like it means something.

 

[Imtjnotu]

 

[skit_data]

She is a clone specifically engineered to suit the role she takes on in the first game. Of course she is a bit of a Mary Sue, but since the plot gives a pretty convincing reason for her abilities, skills and mentality I think it works fine.

 

[Fbh]

Aloy really seems to have broken some people around here.

What is a Mary Sue?

Usually a boring "perfect" character. The type that seems to have no flaws and is good at everything with seemingly no effort.

Like Rey from the new star wars movies

 

[ManaByte]

What's happening to this forum?

People spending too much time watching certain YouTubers.

 

[GeorgPrime]

All the talk about Forbidden West these days have gotten me thinking

more about my 70 plus hours with the original game and how, despite my enjoyment of it, I couldn't find myself relating to most characters in the game, especially Aloy.

Reasons why she can be a Mary sue:

- No real flaws. Nada. Tendency to get angry

but whenever she is angry she turns out to be right, proving to be wiser than even experienced rulers far older than her.

- Extreme physical prowess, that surpasses everybody else due to genetics apparently, despite a training environment inferior to other hunters who had way more resources and help to train with.

- Is hit on constantly by male characters. Never has to earn anybody's attention.
- Overflowing with love and compassion for everybody else, and goes out of her way to show concerned facial expressions in every darn cinematic.

- Does not ever fail meaningfully. Never has to learn a lesson. She teaches everybody else lessons. People older than her usually. Succeeds at every endeavor she undertakes with no meaningful effort from her part to improve.

- Social skills rivaling a politician, despite being a wildling for a lifetime.

So is Aloy a believable character dear gaffing boys and girls?

She is the "Karen" of the stone age

 

[Thesuffering79]

This thread would be hilarious if Hyperbertha is a female. LMAO.

 

[kinjx11]

No body shaming guys, be nice like those resetera kids

 

[Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper]

People spending too much time watching certain YouTubers.

 

[mortal]

 

[Kuranghi]

The formatting of your post sucks OP:

Imagine you were reading a book and it just had an image inline, that would be mental.

 

[SlimySnake]

Yeah, lets not turn this into the next TLJ. Get this shit out of here.

She literally fucking trained her entire life to be a hunter because she was outcast as a child. She was out there training while you were jerking off to porn.

Oh and she just happens to be the clone of a brilliant scientist who created the Zero Dawn program that saved the world in the first place.

Pay attention.

 

[XXL]