I mean, this image is primarily for fun. But if you want to be serious about everything, then so be it.
But on serious note. More studios means more games into the Game Pass. Which is great for anyone who has active sub.
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Microsoft has acquired 3̶ 5 more studios
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But on serious note. More studios means more games into the Game Pass. Which is great for anyone who has active sub.
Hobbygaming
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FrankieSab
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When they will come, it will make a big wave. Beware of the tsunami.
Leyasu
Banned
If they want to release a game every quarter, and the studios are on 4yr cycles, then you would need 16. RPGs take longer so the studios making them are not included. If they have 5 studios making RPGs on 5yr cycles they could also add an RPG a yr to their release schedule taking them to needing 21.
Add in the outlier studios that are still building up but have ambitious projects like Undead labs, and yeah, you can see why they want to have more to feed the gamepass machine
ZywyPL
Banned
Meltdowms? More like excuses - Bluepoint? Pff, they just make ports and remakes, never their own games, no talent at all. Kojima? LOL, did this dude made any good game even once? FromSoft? LMAO, games with fake difficulty, who even plays that. You know, stuff like that, from the usual suspects. But yeah, either way it would be interesting to see the aftermath if such acquisitions happened, that's for sure.
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assurdum
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You said right. It will be a Tsunami if they will not send the quality expected in such games. Looking at the recent Halo delay it's quite tough to understand how they think to handle "properly" so many releases.
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Captain Toad
Banned
I'm sure it's EA, Activision/Blizzard and Ubisoft.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Xbox is buying Microsoft.
Fredrik
Member
I don’t remember, were there no rumors at all?
Anyway I can’t even guess,the ones I want are already taken or has signed publishing deal already.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
it was debunked halos Dev cost a longggg time ago.
games are still selling.
look at free to play games like fortnite, they give the game away and still make a fortune.
Smoke6
Member
Xbox or PlayStation has that FORTNITE game so let’s leave that out!
so what games are selling on Xbox bro right now that are on game pass as well
The rumor was of an acquisition no context. Kind of like how we are right now. No idea who the new studios are.
Yah at this point there are no other studios I care if your acquire but I’ll support because it makes accessibility to the games easier
Mr.ODST
Member
Nobody wants New World, especially after they butchered WPvP out of the game.
Spidey Fan
Banned
Flashy Wizard
Member
Wow. I feel at this point MS won’t stop until there’s at least 30 studios under their umbrella. Absolutely insane.
zaanan
Banned
yes, because they manage their current studios so well!
Somebody’s cranky.
yes, because they manage their current studios so well!
[Updated] Sony Japan Studio Shutting Down This Year
Sony Japan Studio is reportedly closing its doors in a few short weeks, although Astro Bot developer Asobi Team will continue operations.
techraptor.net
White-fire
Member
[Updated] Sony Japan Studio Shutting Down This Year
Sony Japan Studio is reportedly closing its doors in a few short weeks, although Astro Bot developer Asobi Team will continue operations.
One is a deliberate studio restructure to diversify the publishing arm and change focus (ASOBI), the other is a sign of troubled development. I don’t think you know how this comparison stuff works.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I’d rather they’d acquire and revive some dormant IPs/licences and hand them to the Coalition , Playground, Rare etc . Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, X-Men, Road Rash etc .
Fredrik
Member
Yeah the last bit is so true, MS opening the wallet means better games on Xbox but also on PC = great! (Just managed to get a 3070ti btw, not the 3080ti I originally wanted but for nearly half the price and I’m at least in a slightly better situation now than with my 4yo 1080 ti)
phil_t98
#SonyToo
what’s the obsession with sales? It’s a different strategy. If people want gamepass then can have it, if people want to buy the game they can.
it’s all about choice.
have you worked out how much gamepass generates each month?
Craig of War
Banned
Will they announce them this Sunday?
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
how many first party games has xbox released so far this gen......yea.....but its sony with poor management......[Updated] Sony Japan Studio Shutting Down This Year
Sony Japan Studio is reportedly closing its doors in a few short weeks, although Astro Bot developer Asobi Team will continue operations.
Fredrik
Member
Moon signed with Private Division for their Action RPG, who knows when that one will be ready and what they want to do next. I’m ready to cut the cord and accept that we won’t see another Ori this gen.
Kokoloko85
Member
Wouldn’t surprise me. MS likes to buy studios that make PS exlclusives like Ninja Theory lol
But they can purchase From Software as Playstation has a partnership with From Software’s parent company
Capcom
Square
Konami
Silent Hills
Metal Gear Solid 6
Castlevania Symphony of the Night 2
Street Fighter 6
Monster Hunter World 2
Resident Evil 9
Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 2
Kingdom Hearts 4
Legacy of Kain Reboot
All exclusive to Xbox and Gamepass.
I remember the days people used to make fun of the Microsoft warchest well shit got real you pissed Phil off
Square
Konami
Silent Hills
Metal Gear Solid 6
Castlevania Symphony of the Night 2
Street Fighter 6
Monster Hunter World 2
Resident Evil 9
Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 2
Kingdom Hearts 4
Legacy of Kain Reboot
All exclusive to Xbox and Gamepass.
I remember the days people used to make fun of the Microsoft warchest well shit got real you pissed Phil off
Smoke6
Member
Not enough!
Spidey Fan
Banned
nah if there troubled studio, they would have been shutdown.
people leave and go. game journalist make a big deal. you guys eat up.
should the higher who are working at 343 not pursue other jobs? why activation people go to another company? why did god of war people went to the initiative? The industry is changing ,and everyone want to go gain different experience. But that is hard for you to swallow.
also Jason would have written an article by now about it. This is the same dude who made last of us 2 a big deal. he wont shut up about halo.
rapid32.5
Member
So, people buying a $70 game ain't stupid and GamePass with 1000 games cost less, are idiots ?
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
so game pass plus sales figures are not enough for them to make games?
23 million subscribers to game pass. Work it out
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Halo Infinite didnt cost $500 million lol. People think game developers get paid a lot of money but recently they all went on twitter and most of them were making $60k or less. I wouldnt be surprised if the average salary is below $100k at most of these studios. Only senior programmers and senior level designers make $100-150k.
We know how much the first three Uncharteds cost. $20 million. ND had around 150 developers back then. We know how much GoW3 cost. $44 million. They had a little over 200 developers but they took an extra year to make GoW compared to ND with U2 and U3. So if 150 developers cost $10 million per year then we can assume that TLOU2 which had 300 developers and three years of full production likely cost $20 million per year for a total of $60 milliion. Lots of outsourcing goes on nowadays but its relatively cheap since its done in poor developing countries. Lets assume it's another $20 million. That's $80 million for TLOU2.
Now 343i has a lot more employees. 750 according to wikipedia. Using ND logic, we are looking at $50 million per year for 6 years. I do remember them being around 450 a few years ago, but lets leave out the outsourcing costs and just do a flat 750 devs * 6 years and $300 million. Very high but not even close to $500 million. And it's a year late so it wouldve been $250 million back when that stupid estimate came out.
P.S Halo 3 cost $35 million back in the day and had a $40 million marketing budget. Not sure how many employees were at Bungie at the time, but when Bungie went to Activision they had around 500 employees.
You really have to question the management over at 343i. They are making exceedingly mediocre games and taking an insane amount of resources and time to get them done.
We know how much the first three Uncharteds cost. $20 million. ND had around 150 developers back then. We know how much GoW3 cost. $44 million. They had a little over 200 developers but they took an extra year to make GoW compared to ND with U2 and U3. So if 150 developers cost $10 million per year then we can assume that TLOU2 which had 300 developers and three years of full production likely cost $20 million per year for a total of $60 milliion. Lots of outsourcing goes on nowadays but its relatively cheap since its done in poor developing countries. Lets assume it's another $20 million. That's $80 million for TLOU2.
Now 343i has a lot more employees. 750 according to wikipedia. Using ND logic, we are looking at $50 million per year for 6 years. I do remember them being around 450 a few years ago, but lets leave out the outsourcing costs and just do a flat 750 devs * 6 years and $300 million. Very high but not even close to $500 million. And it's a year late so it wouldve been $250 million back when that stupid estimate came out.
P.S Halo 3 cost $35 million back in the day and had a $40 million marketing budget. Not sure how many employees were at Bungie at the time, but when Bungie went to Activision they had around 500 employees.
You really have to question the management over at 343i. They are making exceedingly mediocre games and taking an insane amount of resources and time to get them done.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I'm hoping for Techland as the stories coming out makes me worry about their future. They need to be acquired.
ANIMAL1975
Member
To WaR BrOTheRs
im kidding but that was really disturbing, from now on only browsing Gaf on Onion and migrate my IP to Russia, maybe changing the locks at home too just for safe. Xbox fanboys ain't fooling around!
Iced Arcade
Member
Definitely not Sega seeing that's a big publishing house with a lot more studios than 3.
I can see IO Interactive and Crytek.
I can see IO Interactive and Crytek.
FatKingBallman
Banned
Of course they will
prinz_valium
Member
The new engine for the next 10 years and beyond, the game development of 6 years, the marketing budget, the live service costs over the next years
At the end of the day Halo Infinite will cost $500m for sure.
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Negotiator101
Member
What on earth are you on about?
Leyasu
Banned
What, 15m full paying subs is 175m per month. Should cover nicely the wages and running costs of all their studios. I don't think that Microsoft are propping up gamepass as much as people are hoping they are.
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Smoke6
Member
Where you been? Under a rock? They gave there annual reports or whatever and even admitted it’s not even making money with the service! Either that or from the recent court case this was exposed!
Negotiator101
Member
Bungie.
TheKingSalami
Neo Member
Leyasu
Banned
Calm down kiddie. I wasn't attacking you. So cut the shit.
I don't recall reading about their sub numbers. If that was the case, why are these threads still full of people speculating on how many subs they have and how much they are making. Obviously you can link the pertinent docs so we can finally stop the gamepass speculation.
ZywyPL
Banned
Yes, I'll be very happy if more games will come to GP, even for 60$ which is less than all those 70€ games with either just SP or MP. Wonder what's the end game in those ones is, 100€ for just the opening credits and main menu?
OverHeat
« generous god »
WTF are you talking about.