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[Men_in_Boxes]

Am I the only one excited about the lack of visual advancements?

Nintendo focusing on game design is the best Nintendo.

 

[Astral Dog]

Yeah, I'd rather play BotW2 that more or less looks exactly the same as the first game than have to play Uncharted 5 with better visuals than 4.

Graphics do not a good game make.

Yeah Elden Ring was my game of E3, and everybody just complains about the graphics when talking about it i think it looks amazing thanks to its unique art and more importantly, more fun to play than the overhyped visual powerhouses like Horizon 2 and Uncharted

Also Metroid Dread is #2 Samus is back

 

[Astral Dog]

Damn guys here i thinking Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild 2 looked gorgeous

Extremely disappointed with the trailer.

I am an old fart right now but and rarely game trailers hype me up but I remember when I saw BotW trailer (linked below) for the first time I felt like I was 15 again all excited about a video game.

Just wait for the 'epic' trailer near launch

 

[daveonezero]

I can't wait to see more. Do we think it has the whole BoTW map as well as sky world? This could be nuts.

 

[Astral Dog]

Really not a fan of the recycling. And graphics quality is exactly the same...

Because its a direct sequel it reuses a lot of things from BotW overall visuals, design, mechanics etc. and i agree thats not the most favorable shot they could choose..

but, if anything i have zero doubt the sequel to Breath of the Wild is getting a proper AAA budget, the biggest Nintendo production on Switch that pushes it to its limits. we have seen only a glimpse of the world but already the sky sections and floating islands look beautiful and beyond what Breath of the Wild could push. Considering Switch is around upgraded Wii U level of course

 

[MagnesG]

Its just really jarring to go from playing something like Ratchet in fidelity mode that melts eyeballs, then go to playing a Switch. Nintendo makes good games, but they really need new fucking hardware. Literally everything they make would be 100000X better with modern tech. Imagine BOTW 2 on modern tech. It would factually be much better. I dont know hwy they shy away from technology so much. Its really annoying.

Modern tech accepted by the public thanks to subsidization.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

After two years, we've finally received a brand new trailer for Breath of the Wild 2 on Nintendo Switch, so Max Blumenthal (RinHara5aki) and Evan Langer are back to dissect everything shown.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild was released four years ago on March 3, 2017, and was a launch title for the Nintendo Switch. At E3 2019, we got our first glimpse of the sequel where Link and Zelda investigate a cave and find what appears to be the corpse of Ganondorf. Two years later, we finally received a new look at the sequel during the E3 2021 Nintendo Direct.

In the new trailer, we learn that the game takes place on the surface world of Breath of the Wild--and in the sky. During the sky section, we see Link with his hair down, and he also sports some strange new abilities in his arm, including the ability to rewind time. Link also seems to be able to travel between the sky and surface; however, the trailer showcases Link with his original haircut in the surface sections, so we aren’t entirely sure how they connect or whether each segment takes place at different points in time.

The Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be released exclusively for Nintendo Switch in 2022. Despite rumors of a Switch Pro on the way, Nintendo announced nothing of the sort at the Direct, so we’ll have to wait and see if Breath of the Wild 2 utilizes this rumored hardware upgrade.

 

[Hugare]

Looks like a good DLC

As a sequel, not so much (so far)

Same map is reaaaally lazy, like come the fuck on. Same enemies. New powers look cool tho.

So many years of development for this is really underwhelming

 

[Airbus Jr]

Am I the only one excited about the lack of visual advancements?

Nintendo focusing on game design is the best Nintendo.

Game still made for nintendo switch

The lack of visual advancements nintendo paid that off with the usual rich artistry and environment

Myabe if new nintendo hardware came up somewhere in 2025-26 we can expect something new for the graphics

 

[Craig of War]

All CGI right?

 

[nightmare-slain]

like always we should wait until the game is finished and reviews come out before fully judging it. did it look underwhelming? Yes but it’s obviously not complete yet. there Is likely a lot of new stuff they haven’t showed off yet.

 

[TLZ]

I can't make anything of this shit. I absolutely love Botw but come the f on Nintendo. You should be showing us gameplay by now and this releasing soon. But no, we get a teaser that doesn't tell us anything, still looks like the game from 2017, still in development, and no release date.

 

[Tschumi]

looks much more like an expansion than a sequel

looks great

 

[Kumomeme]

seems like they taking the glider mechanic to whole higher height. lot of floating continent to explore.

 

[Majukun]

Think we will see new stuff and enemies in the future but we wil have to wait..the release is stil far ahead and nintendo doesn't do vertical slices, so it makes sense that the stuff that is already ready to be shown is the recycled one

 

[sunnysideup]

Looks like another way to make a sequel as cheap as possible with as little asset creation as possible. Like majoras mask, wind waker, skyward sword. They have created a world to minimize asset creation.

Moon cycle, oceans and skies all filled the same purpose in the previous games. To speed up development and make the game cheaper.

This is not going to be a better game than botw.

 

[Ikutachi]

Oh no.

It seems that Aonuma Style is back (lots of stupid puzzles). I hope that I am wrong.

Exactly what it's going to be.

 

[nordique]

Can’t wait

Zelda is my GOAT

 

[lh032]

doesnt look impressive to me.

As a switch owner that beat BOTW master mode and all the DLC, there is not much visual improvement

 

[Trunim]

Looks like an expansion to BotW. Which is fine but not 5 years waiting-fine.

 

[Robb]

Looks amazing, I can't wait to see how they use and expand on the time-reverse mechanic!

That alone really makes me hope for some larger dungeons bacause the puzzles they could make with sheika slate powers + time has so much potential imo.

I'm also very curious about the world. Almost looks like you're in two different versions of Hyrule in the footage. The original BotW world and then a version with floating islands. I wonder if they've made changes to the original map, but have also made an entirely new map on top of that?

The trailer was way to short though, I need more! Definitely my most anticipated game going forward.

 

[kingpotato]

They showed the new gauntlet in the first trailer. It almost looks like link's arm gets infected with Gannon's spirit?

 

[kingpotato]

 

[Mister Wolf]

I guess advancements in the use of physics for gameplay doesn’t count. We need to see the peach fuzz on the upper lip of the characters for a game to be impressive.

 

[KungFucius]

I love Zelda and i adore BOTW. But I have to be honest. I am not happy with what I saw. It looks too similar to BOTW, almost like DLC. I have no doubt that it will be good but it's hard to get excited about it. I felt happier when I saw Link's Awakening in that handheld thing.

You should manage your expectations. 2 years ago they made it clear that it was a direct sequel that came from a DLC idea that was too big. It was also clear that it used the same assets including the same world map. Why did you let yourself think it would be something completely different?

I think it is great that they are reusing BoTW to get us some more Zelda, If Covid didn't happen this would have come out sooner than a new Zelda. BoTW came out 6 years after SS. This should have been out in 3 years after the last DLC which was late last year. I think it will end up being 5 years after the last DLC, but maybe they are hoping to launch it earlier in the year.

With any luck they have people working on the concepts for the next new Zelda on switch 2.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

You should manage your expectations. 2 years ago they made it clear that it was a direct sequel that came from a DLC idea that was too big. It was also clear that it used the same assets including the same world map. Why did you let yourself think it would be something completely different?

I think it is great that they are reusing BoTW to get us some more Zelda, If Covid didn't happen this would have come out sooner than a new Zelda. BoTW came out 6 years after SS. This should have been out in 3 years after the last DLC which was late last year. I think it will end up being 5 years after the last DLC, but maybe they are hoping to launch it earlier in the year.

With any luck they have people working on the concepts for the next new Zelda on switch 2.

this “dlc” is going to take 5-6 years

it’s kind of unacceptable given how incredibly safe this game looks

im also in the massively disappointed camp as someone who loved BOTW

 

[Mato]

You should manage your expectations. 2 years ago they made it clear that it was a direct sequel that came from a DLC idea that was too big. It was also clear that it used the same assets including the same world map. Why did you let yourself think it would be something completely different?

I think it is great that they are reusing BoTW to get us some more Zelda, If Covid didn't happen this would have come out sooner than a new Zelda. BoTW came out 6 years after SS. This should have been out in 3 years after the last DLC which was late last year. I think it will end up being 5 years after the last DLC, but maybe they are hoping to launch it earlier in the year.

With any luck they have people working on the concepts for the next new Zelda on switch 2.

Since when does sequel mean "DLC-like"? If they would have set the game in a parallel land like they had done with Termina in Majora's Mask, that would have been a lot more interesting.

this “dlc” is going to take 5-6 years

it’s kind of unacceptable given how incredibly safe this game looks

im also in the massively disappointed camp as someone who loved BOTW

Pretty much this.

 

[Mato]

I guess advancements in the use of physics for gameplay doesn’t count. We need to see the peach fuzz on the upper lip of the characters for a game to be impressive.

Personally I'm not disappointed with the technical aspects of the trailer. It's just that what we have seen is so similar. Majora's Mask too was build upon an existing foundation, but it has a distinct flavor. It is colorful, ornate, eccentric and dark in a way that helps set it apart from Ocarina of Time. Perhaps the final product will be different enough, but so far I find that the two trailers are a poor showcase.

 

[KungFucius]

Since when does sequel mean "DLC-like"? If they would have set the game in a parallel land like they had done with Termina in Majora's Mask, that would have been a lot more interesting.

I do not understand why so many keep saying DLC. Is it because it uses the same map? DLC is usually content that lasts a couple of hours. They have shown that there are several islands and that the land itself changed in some places. It just seems like a problem with expectations and too many assumptions.

No way in fuck will the scale of this game and the changes from the first one be on the level of a DLC.

Nintendo should have wasted more time and effort developing different graphics so I wouldn't have to read this DLC bullshit.

 

[Andyliini]

Do we even know it uses the same map? It takes place in same Hyrule as BotW, but what we have sern is about 2 minutes max of the game. Too early to say if it's completely same or not.

 

[Mato]

I do not understand why so many keep saying DLC. Is it because it uses the same map? DLC is usually content that lasts a couple of hours. They have shown that there are several islands and that the land itself changed in some places. It just seems like a problem with expectations and too many assumptions.

No way in fuck will the scale of this game and the changes from the first one be on the level of a DLC.

Nintendo should have wasted more time and effort developing different graphics so I wouldn't have to read this DLC bullshit.

Um, yeah? Otherwise I might as well play Ocarina Of Time with a randomizer.

Do we even know it uses the same map? It takes place in same Hyrule as BotW, but what we have sern is about 2 minutes max of the game. Too early to say if it's completely same or not.

The surface appears to be explorable, albeit remixed. I will be delighted to hear it isn't so. I don't know how they expect me to to be intrigued by navigating a largely same terrain.

 

[Krappadizzle]

It wouldn't be a Legend of Zelda game if people WEREN'T complaining about the graphics.

 

[StateofMajora]

Looks incredibly low effort by Nintendo but after botw I have 0 expectations for a sequel. Can't wait for a new direction and engine for the series on new hardware.

 

[Astral Dog]

This thread people shocked the Breath of the Wild sequel Nintendo promised on the same hardware looks like prettier Breath of the Wild

 

[Astral Dog]

Looks incredibly low effort by Nintendo but after botw I have 0 expectations for a sequel. Can't wait for a new direction and engine for the series on new hardware.

New engine will have prettier graphics and maybe a new world/artstyle, but don't expect Nintendo to deviate too much from Breath of the Wild it has been recieved amazingly well and we may be looking at another 95+ Metacritic game 15 million selling for this sequel. But sure no effort

 

[blacktout]

New engine will have prettier graphics and maybe a new world/artstyle, but don't expect Nintendo to deviate too much from Breath of the Wild it has been recieved amazingly well and we may be looking at another 95+ Metacritic game 15 million selling for this sequel. But sure no effort

Apparently the most time-consuming part of Breath of the Wild's development wasn't graphical polish or world design, but perfecting the game's complex physics system and mechanics. The trailer seems to indicate that BotW2 is going to include new powers and ways for Link to manipulate and interact with the environment, which tells me that this is the opposite of a no-effort sequel: the team is spending extra time and money to expand and subvert the very foundation of the previous game's design when they could have just created a new map and some bigger, more refined dungeons in a couple of years and left the core gameplay completely unchanged and the gaming discourse mill would be salivating and calling them geniuses.

 

[gunslikewhoa]

Am I the only one excited about the lack of visual advancements?

Nintendo focusing on game design is the best Nintendo.

get rid of weapon durability and i'll play it

 

[ResilientBanana]

Am I the only one excited about the lack of visual advancements?

Nintendo focusing on game design is the best Nintendo.

Nintendo is always focused on game design, but that's no reason to be excited about shitty resolutions. BOTW is gorgeous when emulated. Part of a games vision is it's art style. I'm sure the developers are little peeved at working on hardware that barely lets them hit 1080p if at all.

 

[Astral Dog]

Apparently the most time-consuming part of Breath of the Wild's development wasn't graphical polish or world design, but perfecting the game's complex physics system and mechanics. The trailer seems to indicate that BotW2 is going to include new powers and ways for Link to manipulate and interact with the environment, which tells me that this is the opposite of a no-effort sequel: the team is spending extra time and money to expand and subvert the very foundation of the previous game's design when they could have just created a new map and some bigger, more refined dungeons in a couple of years and left the core gameplay completely unchanged and the gaming discourse mill would be salivating and calling them geniuses.

Yeah we can critisize Zelda for some things, but no effort is not one of them(in most cases), Nintendo knows how important this sequel is and no way they are gonna half ass it. the Switch hardware is similar to Wii U and they are polishing the visuals rather than change them. of course its not gonna be a SS/TP--> BotW evolution

What they shown so far is just a very small glimpse of BotW2, its gonna end up a worthy sequel no doubt

 

[Astral Dog]

Nintendo is always focused on game design, but that's no reason to be excited about shitty resolutions. BOTW is gorgeous when emulated. Part of a games vision is it's art style. I'm sure the developers are little peeved at working on hardware that barely lets them hit 1080p if at all.

That would be easily fixed by some Switch Pro

i bet new Switch hardware will be available by the time BotW2 releases, what kind no ideabut it will be. Switch is so succesful it will continue evolving over the years

 

[StateofMajora]

New engine will have prettier graphics and maybe a new world/artstyle, but don't expect Nintendo to deviate too much from Breath of the Wild it has been recieved amazingly well and we may be looking at another 95+ Metacritic game 15 million selling for this sequel. But sure no effort

Then Zelda would be dead to me and quoting metacritic numbers shows you can't stand on your own argument.

Without exaggeration, botw is just a bad game.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Nintendo is always focused on game design, but that's no reason to be excited about shitty resolutions. BOTW is gorgeous when emulated. Part of a games vision is it's art style. I'm sure the developers are little peeved at working on hardware that barely lets them hit 1080p if at all.

Excited about resolution?

Nintendo knows it's audience doesn't care about resolution. They're often a few steps ahead of the industry when it comes to investment in certain visual aspects.

 

[fart town usa]

I'm surprised that people thought BOTW2 was gonna include a massive upgrade in visuals.

I took it as a given that Nintendo was gonna recycle assets and stick with the style of the first.

And honestly, why does it matter? If the game runs at a stable framerate and is fun, that should be the only thing that matters. It's 2021, people should know by now to not expect insane graphics from Nintendo or the Switch.

 

[fart town usa]

I'd be 100% fine if BOTW contained the exact same world map, but brought about 8 dungeons, as well as the Sky Area we've seen.

I just want dungeons. I have zero interest in another massive/empty world with 160 shrines. I really enjoyed BOTW but I don't know if I'd want to revisit that type of gameplay and put 80 hours into it again.

 

[Brumfieldhm]

I was concerned with seeing so much environment from the previous game , but I’m convinced it will almost be a background element . When revealing gameplay of their Zelda games they almost always show us the top of the iceberg ( the first real gameplay of BOTW was all based on the starting area ) Nintendo has introduced the ideas of an underground system as well as the new sky areas , later we will see these ideas fully realized in the final trailers . I’m excited , but cautious , I really am bothered by seeing more bokoblins .

 

[Efren is G.O.A.T.]

As someone who think BotW is the greatest game ever made. This trailer excites me to no end but I can understand people's point of view when they say that it just looks like DLC and that's because it initially was. Majora's Mask looked like Ocarina of Time DLC from a graphical standpoint but who cared in the end?

 

[Oberstein]

I can understand the criticisms concerning the graphics, but look at Horizon 2: it's only the graphical aspect that counts.
This trailer, on the contrary, shows mechanics of being able to go through matter... It's more intriguing than a lazy grappling hook.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Excited about resolution?

Nintendo knows it's audience doesn't care about resolution. They're often a few steps ahead of the industry when it comes to investment in certain visual aspects.

Well no, their audience can't care about resolution, Nintendo doesn't allow them to. But I would be more excited about the game if it didn't look like a blurry, smudgy, aliased mess. Part of my enjoyment of gaming comes from not feeling like I need glasses.

 

[SinDelta]

I'd be 100% fine if BOTW contained the exact same world map, but brought about 8 dungeons, as well as the Sky Area we've seen.

I just want dungeons. I have zero interest in another massive/empty world with 160 shrines. I really enjoyed BOTW but I don't know if I'd want to revisit that type of gameplay and put 80 hours into it again.

8 themed dungeons on the quality and scale of Hyrule Castle in BotW sounds amazing.

Elden Ring has been confirmed to have 6 so I am curious to see how they compare in the end.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Well no, their audience can't care about resolution, Nintendo doesn't allow them to. But I would be more excited about the game if it didn't look like a blurry, smudgy, aliased mess. Part of my enjoyment of gaming comes from not feeling like I need glasses.

Actually, in all those 97 Metascore reviews everyone complained about the "blurry, smudgy, aliased mess".

Plus, the blurry, smudgy aliased mess really hurt it's sales. Only sold 20+ million units with very few discounts.

Or maybe Nintendo knows what they're doing and you're the outlier?