• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Sony comfirms Nixxes was bought to help with PC ports

01011001

Banned
I'm sorry I should have said "legally".

Nonetheless I am very happy that sony is putting their games on the PC now. It's a wonderful business decision by them and like I said I truly hope they come out with a gamepass competitor at some point soon so that they will truly compete with Microsoft in the Western Market while Nintendo focus more on the console Market as well as the Eastern Markets. In that scenario I feel like everyone wins. Nintendo, Microsoft and sony wins.

you can play every Nintendo game legally on PC... nothing about it is illegal.

the og Switch model is super easy to jailbreak, and once you did that you can transfer over you games to your PC... legally... and the Emulator can then legally play your games.

not sure if there are already USB card readers for Switch games, but once that's a thing (if it isn't already) you don't even need a Switch anymore to transfer your games
 
Last edited:

Amin_Parker

Member
you can play every Nintendo game legally on PC... nothing about it is illegal.

the og Switch model is super easy to jailbreak, and once you did that you can transfer over you games to your PC... legally... and the Emulator can then legally play your games.

not sure if there are already USB card readers for Switch games, but once that's a thing (if it isn't already) you don't even need a Switch anymore to transfer your games

I admit I did not know that. If it is legal to play all first party released Nintendo Switch games day one on PC then color me shocked. Well if that's the case then PC is the true ultimate platform and I have no idea why people buy consoles anymore when you can just purchase a Pro Controller and have all games at your disposal on the PC.

I'm just very happy that sony is doing this and I'm even more happier that they are diving into the mobile market as well.

Jim Ryan is a god-send.
 

01011001

Banned
I admit I did not know that. If it is legal to play all first party released Nintendo Switch games day one on PC then color me shocked. Well if that's the case then PC is the true ultimate platform and I have no idea why people buy consoles anymore when you can just purchase a Pro Controller and have all games at your disposal on the PC.

I'm just very happy that sony is doing this and I'm even more happier that they are diving into the mobile market as well.

Jim Ryan is a god-send.

well like I said, I don't know if there are Switch game card readers... if not, the only legal way would be to own a model 1 Switch and transfer your games over.

but I guess you could share a Switch among friends to make this viable lol, every time someone buys a game that person could just get that shared Switch and transfer the game.

and also, I don't know how it is in other countries, but I think in germany you can share a private copy of something to up to 10 friends and family members (that's the precedence that was set in a court case if my memory is correct)...

so you could therefore buy a game once and load it onto PCs of up to 10 friends/family members lol

edit: ok I looked it up, it's 7 copies... that's what the court ruled, not quite 10 but still not bad lol
 
Last edited:

Onironauta

Member
It's going to be nice playing Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox games on PC this gen. Maybe on a more polished iteration of the Steam Deck.
 

01011001

Banned

The state of Switch emulation is still nowhere near that of Wii/Wii U. It will happen at some point but calling them playable right now is kinda pushing it.

Nintendo's own games are almost all perfectly playable now with the current dev/preview build of Yuzu

the newest recompiler fixed shitload of games, and of course the focus is on first and second party games


 
Last edited:

ACESHIGH

Banned
They would be retarded if they don't up the pace of their ports after this. Look at those amazing returnal sales... Not even with their hype machine and marketing push were able to move units of that game.
 

sainraja

Member
i put the links so you can check yourself the requirement is listed on the pages.
edit : this the ms page on steam https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/XboxGameStudios/#browse
as you can see games without xbox live are old or third party
Thanks but I don't own those games on Steam so not sure how I'd check. You already answered the question though so we should be good or we are talking over each other. Old games might require login but the new ones don't; I was just curious about how they handle XBL achievements if that is the case or they ignore XBL achievements and just do Steam ones?

EDIT
Ok so steam achievements.
 
Last edited:

Thirty7ven

Banned
Can't wait to see people's reaction to a PC port of Rift Apart

Horizon, Days Gone, Death Stranding… I’ll let you in on a little secret, people actually don’t give a shit. And if Xbox fans have taught us anything is that PC sales will just be used to prop an IP’s success even further.

PC expands the market, it’s an open platform, it doesn’t really compete with consoles.

Releasing GT7 day one on PC and PlayStation? Sony would be dumb not to.
 

sainraja

Member
I imagine they could work with valve and map achievements to trophies. Not sure how friends would work though.
Yeah I am not sure about that either. GOG Galaxy (I think) can display friends (not sure about PSN, but it can show us our XBL friends who are playing) so there is hope.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Horizon, Days Gone, Death Stranding… I’ll let you in on a little secret, people actually don’t give a shit. And if Xbox fans have taught us anything is that PC sales will just be used to prop an IP’s success even further.

PC expands the market, it’s an open platform, it doesn’t really compete with consoles.

Releasing GT7 day one on PC and PlayStation? Sony would be dumb not to.
I know.

Still, i can think of a few special people who'll be giving some nice reactions regardless of logic.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
I'm curious to see what will happen if the game is run of a HDD. Should be quite an interesting analysis.
Would highly depend on how they'd port it. Essentially if they'd design the game to take advantage of different specs of each machine, like automatically using more RAM to leverage slower storage speeds
I think the game would recommend at least a SATA SSD for a proper experience.
 
Last edited:

martino

Member
Thanks but I don't own those games on Steam so not sure how I'd check. You already answered the question though so we should be good or we are talking over each other. Old games might require login but the new ones don't; I was just curious about how they handle XBL achievements if that is the case or they ignore XBL achievements and just do Steam ones?

EDIT
Ok so steam achievements.
At last for MCC , you need to login with ms account. But most game do (see the yellow warning in the game feature listing of the steam store page)
And in fact it unlocks both steam and xbox achievement
 
Last edited:
Would highly depend on how they'd port it. Essentially if they'd design the game to take advantage of different specs of each machine, like automatically using more RAM to leverage slower storage speeds
I think the game would recommend at least a SATA SSD for a proper experience.

You're essentially going from GBs of data to MB/s of data. I'm sure you can offset it with ram but that would require changing the design of the game and increasing the ram requirements. I'm still curious if it's even possible off a HDD with a modest amount of memory.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
You're essentially going from GBs of data to MB/s of data. I'm sure you can offset it with ram but that would require changing the design of the game and increasing the ram requirements. I'm still curious if it's even possible off a HDD with a modest amount of memory.
Not changing the design of the game itself, just how it manages data behind the curtains.
The way the game is designed, with level transitions happening at specific time and places, makes it perfectly possible to leverage more system memory to pre-load stuff for example.
 
Last edited:
I call this sooner or later all Sony games will be ported to PC. Nintendo will be the only one left that won't port their games to PC.
 
Last edited:
Not changing the design of the game itself, just how it manages data behind the curtains.
The way the game is designed, with level transitions happening at specific time and places, makes it perfectly possible to leverage more system memory to pre-load stuff for example.

In order to make everything seemless I'm guessing it's going to be a lot of data which would require a ton of ram. Not sure if your average consumer will have more than 16GBs in their system.
 
This is good because this frees up Sony studios and they won't have to worry about porting shit while trying to deliver games on time..

Guerrilla already wasted months trying to fix the mess that was the horizon pc port and who knows if that is the reason why horizon might not make 2021.
I don't think 20 programmers will free any of their studio from porting to PC. They are just an edition to ICE team. Basically, creating tools for porting. Nothing else. The game designer and artists will still have to squeeze it to make something that work on PS5 and a Dell laptop.
 
Last edited:

VN1X

Banned
Sorry just got to this thread and on the first page I read these brilliant smoothbrains:

I'd like them to skip Steam entirely. Screw giving Valve 30% for any of their first-party games.

I’d definitely be up for a Sony PC store with trophy integration/cross platform progression etc.

And this info was surely obvious, the only question is to what extent do they want their library on PC - will we see PS1/PS2/PS3 Sony games ported over?

Plus it makes people rage when they have to buy a game from any other digital store besides Steam's. "I'LL NEVER DOWNLOAD EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER, ETC."
It's weird.
bskEZNq.png
 

Guilty_AI

Member
In order to make everything seemless I'm guessing it's going to be a lot of data which would require a ton of ram. Not sure if your average consumer will have more than 16GBs in their system.
Modern high-spec gaming PCs, which is the public this game would aim at, have 32 gb of RAM these days, or even 64 gb. Thats 2 - 4 times more than the PS5, not even counting VRAM that can unload some of the tasks that'd fall on the system memory of the console.
And don't think this is some very minor group like some people here do, according to steam hardware survey we can count 10M - 12M next-gen ready PC rigs on the wild, and with GPU prices finally starting to go down again, this number is likely to increase even more over time.

As for the middle range PCs with 16gb memory, you can always just give them setting options to lower the quality of texture and models.
 
Last edited:

Brofist

Member
So we’ve got people in here complaining of “Steam fanboys”, all the while the single reason they can come up with for not wanting Sony games released on Steam is they don’t want Sony to have to pay the Steam cut. You can’t make this shit up.
 
I don't think 20 programmers will free any of their studio from porting to PC. They are just an edition to ICE team. Basically, creating tools for porting. Nothing else. The game designer and artists will still have to squeeze it to make something that work on PS5 and a Dell laptop.

Take a look at their linkedin. They're more than just 20 programmers over there now
 

Null Persp

Member
X Factor Xf12 GIF by X Factor Italia


Their PC ports are top quality.
And please don't make another client thanks, we don't need it.
I hope that the next games will be one among Bloodborne, God Of War and GOT, but I think they'll bring Last of us first, considering that the show is going to air next year.
 
Last edited:

MrFunSocks

Banned
To the surprise of only those who also thought that Bethesda would still be releasing games on PlayStation in the future. PC porting company gonna pc port. Guess there’s no reason to buy a PlayStation anymore, right guys?

As someone that doesnt like single device exclusivity this is great, even though as a pc gamer with a 3070 I still won’t buy them.
 
Last edited:

MrFunSocks

Banned
Remember how PS Fanboys claimed Sony was not going to invest in PC, I love it when they are proved wrong.
The thing that people don’t realise with Sony is that they follow. They don’t tend to innovate too often, they just follow the others. Not a knock against them either.

MS went all in on PC releases and Sony fans mocked them and said Sony would never do it. Sony are now doing it. Next up I expect a complete overhaul of ps now to make it more like game pass.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Yeah that’s the downside. Cool that more Sony 1st party games will come to PC (and Steam Deck!) but I fear that the next Tomb Raider won’t be as awesome as previous games on PC. Unless Sony buy Square-Enix.
Developing a game for the series x is essentially developing a pc version.
 

SSfox

Member
I mean it was obvious at this point that Hermen Hulst is trying hard to kill the playstation brand with his shitty tastes and visions, this clown is selling the soul of the brand and destroying what made playstation what it is, porting games on PC, turning next gen games into crossgen, killing one of the very few Sony Japanese studio, making shitty GaaS deals, but no real games like Bloodborne in the early PS4 days, there is nothing "Sony Wise" into this Hermen Hulst subhuman clown, this guy is the biggest joke ever in the history of Sony and playstation brand.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom