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[Gamer79]

The problem is not that it's a good looking game because it is. The problem is that with the power of the PS5 I was expecting shit my pants and change my underwear type of visuals. It looks almost exactly like the 2018 version and failing to see hos this is "next gen."

 

[Fahdis]

The problem is not that it's a good looking game because it is. The problem is that with the power of the PS5 I was expecting shit my pants and change my underwear type of visuals. It looks almost exactly like the 2018 version and failing to see hos this is "next gen."

Better luck next God of War.

 

[Hezekiah]

And what's this supposed to prove? Have you forgotten GT7, Horizon Forbidden West, GOW2 all massive IP all crossgen. Redfall, Starfield, Forza 8 all next gen only.

None of those games are close to being released.

And you're using them to 'prove something'. Meanwhile Sony has actually released next-gen only games already but of course it doesn't fit your narrative. Your argument is a crock of shit.

 

[Keihart]

The devs worked hard build the engine for GOW (2018), were you guys expecting to throw all that and build it ground up again!? That would be very unproductive.

The way I see it is it would give them chance to focus on things that actually matters like more enemy and boss types, more variety in environments instead of wasting time building graphics from ground up all over again.

That is rubbish, ND has always worked with the same engine, would you believe that technically they are still using the same engine in TLoU2 that Uncharted 1?
Studios that use their own engine and thus have the expertise and resources to tweak it at will, build upon them instead of throwing them in the bin every time they want to add or modify something about it.

Uncharted 4 and TLoU 1 are running in the "same" engine.

 

[Three]

How many people here have a Xbox Series console and no PS5, but are still commenting?...

About the same amount of people who were saying last gen and Lockhart has no effect on next gen games because everything scales down anyway.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

this thread is why i play games instead of browsing the interwebz

 

[Three]

And what's this supposed to prove? Have you forgotten GT7, Horizon Forbidden West, GOW2 all massive IP all crossgen. Redfall, Starfield, Forza 8 all next gen only.

Are redfall and starfield meant to be a "massive ip". Come on stop with the nonsense. How can you claim that they have moved to next gen faster with a straight face.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

None of those games are close to being released.

And you're using them to 'prove something'. Meanwhile Sony has actually released next-gen only games already but of course it doesn't fit your narrative. Your argument is a crock of shit.

And the PS5 only games released so far are smaller franchises and a remake of game from the PS3 days. So far GOW, GT7, Horizon 2 and Spiderman MM are all cross gen. Even Godfall has a PS4 port already released last month when they were promoting it as PS5 only. And given Sony lies about cross gen to begin with (GT7), nobody knows if Sony will honour Spiderman 2 and Wolverine will be PS5 exclusive.

Given these heavy hitters are all 2022-23 games (Wolverine will probably be even longer), it shows PS5 only sequels wont be out till maybe 2026-2027, which is the end of the generation.

The first big franchise PS5 only game is Spiderman 2 (2023) assuming they hold to it.

 

[mckmas8808]

About the same amount of people who were saying last gen and Lockhart has no effect on next gen games because everything scales down anyway.

 

[Hezekiah]

And the PS5 only games released so far are smaller franchises and a remake of game from the PS3 days. So far GOW, GT7, Horizon 2 and Spiderman MM are all cross gen. Even Godfall has a PS4 port already released last month when they were promoting it as PS5 only. And given Sony lies about cross gen to begin with (GT7), nobody knows if Sony will honour Spiderman 2 and Wolverine will be PS5 exclusive.

Given these heavy hitters are all 2022-23 games (Wolverine will probably be even longer), it shows PS5 only sequels wont be out till maybe 2026-2027, which is the end of the generation.

The first big franchise PS5 only game is Spiderman 2 (2023) assuming they hold to it.

Yep, meanwhile Redfall is a massive franchise. And Forza Motorsport doesn't actually have a release date, but I'm sure it'll have one soon .

 

[PSX]

I am here just for comments
Let’s go…

 

[Negotiator101]

None of those games are close to being released.

And you're using them to 'prove something'. Meanwhile Sony has actually released next-gen only games already but of course it doesn't fit your narrative. Your argument is a crock of shit.

Redfall and Starfield are 2022 confirmed and I'm pretty confident Forza 8 will release next year as well. So now I've proved you wrong where you gonna go?

 

[Angel of BOOM!]

How can you compare GoW2 with the original when the sequel is likely to target 4k and 60fps. All this has to be taken into account. It's not free and will gobble up a ton of the PS5's grunt. Let's render at 1080p@30fps and see how it looks.

Also, what have we seen of Starfield that compares to GoW2 graphics wise? Maybe I've missed something. I'm sure it will look lovely but until we see some concrete gameplay... I'll reserve my judgement. As for the 2022 release date. Yeah...

 

[TheDreadLord]

Despite all hate because of reasons, Deathloop does look next-gen. The scale of the scenarios is massive. I also though that GoW looks good. The mains issue with the game visual is that a lot of things on screen indeed look like being re-used assets with added snow/ice on top of it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yep, meanwhile Redfall is a massive franchise. And Forza Motorsport doesn't actually have a release date, but I'm sure it'll have one soon .

Redfall is a massive franchise? The first game isnt even out yet.

So now it's a console war of release dates?

FM doesn't have a release date, but FH5 does and it's before GT7. God of War Ragnarok doesn't have a release date either even though it's supposed to be 2022.

 

[pratyush]

The desperation is real in this thread.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

For you console gamers with PS5/Series X, you better get used to incremental bumps in quality. There's no giant leap this gen. And not anytime soon with cross gen. The biggest jumps so far are some RT visuals (or patches in BC games) and most games now at 60 fps (including boosts to BC). SSD also cuts back on loading time a ton. So these 3 perks are probably going to be the biggies for a while.

The thinking is years from now when the cross gen cord is cut and devs get used to the system more, maybe around 2023 or so it'll be huge gains over year one. Maybe. There was a big jump going from COD 2 to MW3. We'll have to see if that comes true this gen too. But given last gen, I didn't see big boosts in base model games. The jumps came from Pro and One X.

If you're a frame rate lover and RT shininess and lighting are your thing, you probably love how even big scope games are now 60 fps too. But for those of you who care more for big boosts in textures, animations, physics etc.... doesn't seem to be any large improvements any time soon. Not even moderate improvements. More like small.

 

[Gameplaylover]

I also though that GoW looks good. The mains issue with the game visual is that a lot of things on screen indeed look like being re-used assets with added snow/ice on top of it.

It's only 4 years between the games, of course not everything is completely new and some parts will feel like you are playing a DLC.

 

[phil_t98]

I think that it’s still a first phase game, don’t get me wrong it looks great but look at the first PS4 games and compare them with the last PS4 games and it looks like a generational difference.

this could get a small delay like halo did if people keep going on that the visuals don’t look great, hope not as I thought it looked stunning in places. It ain’t my type of game if am honest but there was nothing wrong with the visuals

 

[T0minator]

All at a buttery smooth 60fps ...this game will blow our minds in 2022...Santa Monica knows how to blow minds

 

[T0minator]

 

[mansoor1980]

awesome screens , game will set a new benchmark when it is released

 

[Lupin25]

Redfall and Starfield are 2022 confirmed and I'm pretty confident Forza 8 will release next year as well. So now I've proved you wrong where you gonna go?

Show the receipts though:

FFXVI
Forspoken
GhostWire: Tokyo
Demon’s Souls (Remake)
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Astro’s Playroom
Godfall
Deathloop
Returnal

These are all next-gen only PS5 games released or releasing this and next year.

Project Eve is also quite far along and “I’m pretty confident” it will release next year, as well lol.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

this could get a small delay like halo did if people keep going on that the visuals don’t look great, hope not as I thought it looked stunning in places. It ain’t my type of game if am honest but there was nothing wrong with the visuals

Yup. Graphics are solid.

Really comes down to how much better looking people want a 2022 PS5 game over a 2018 PS4 game.

IMO, I think a bigger issue is the script. If the trailer is representative of the final breadth of game, it seems annoying as fuck if that kid is going to be yucking it up all game giving Kratos whiney tips on how to be a good dad or hero.

 

[Vaelka]

It just looks like every exclusive game ever made to me.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Show the receipts though:

FFXVI
Forspoken
GhostWire: Tokyo
Demon’s Souls (Remake)
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Astro’s Playroom
Godfall
Deathloop
Returnal

These are all next-gen only PS5 games released or releasing this and next year.

Project Eve is also quite far along and “I’m pretty confident” it will release next year, as well lol.

Godfall is out on PS4 now. You can replace it with Destruction All Stars.

 

[Sid Of Bee]

It's funny to me that graphics are still a huge debate amongst people on these forums. Literally every game I've played in the past few years looks amazing... Graphics have never been an issue in any sense to me for awhile. Granted, I grew up playing ColecoVision.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Why is there a dumb looking kid in a god of war game?

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Yeah really does look cross gen. Graphically not all that, but seems to have a lot of personality.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Why is there a dumb looking kid in a god of war game?

Have you been out of gaming since 2018?

 

[skit_data]

Godfall is out on PS4 now. You can replace it with Destruction All Stars.

We do not speak of Destruction All Stars.

 

[Guardian's Light]

Well, it's a ps4 born game, so not surprised about this

Will look sick anyway

 

[Moses85]

I guess he is comparing with the God of War 2018 for base PS4. Looks indeed similar, besides probably the boost in resolution.

Even the models are the same. Freya for example, same of the same.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Have you been out of gaming since 2018?

Didn't play the other one, I know there was a kid in that one too but didn't realise god of war from now on is you babysitting some punk kid.

 

[Hezekiah]

Redfall and Starfield are 2022 confirmed and I'm pretty confident Forza 8 will release next year as well. So now I've proved you wrong where you gonna go?

You're talking about 'massive IPs' and then have the nerve to mention Redfall . Halo, Forza Horizon??

Oh and 'you're pretty confident' Forza Motorsport will come out next year - well that's good enough for me in lieu of an actual release date lol.

 

[Hunnybun]

Despite all hate because of reasons, Deathloop does look next-gen. The scale of the scenarios is massive. I also though that GoW looks good. The mains issue with the game visual is that a lot of things on screen indeed look like being re-used assets with added snow/ice on top of it.

I've been saying Deathloop looks great visually pretty much since the reveal, but I think this is the first I've ever seen someone say the same lol.

Apparently most people are simply incapable of looking past the highly stylised quality of the art. But if you actually look at the fidelity of the assets, the draw distance, the small details etc, it's way better than anything on last gen.

 

[Hezekiah]

Redfall is a massive franchise? The first game isnt even out yet.

So now it's a console war of release dates?

FM doesn't have a release date, but FH5 does and it's before GT7. God of War Ragnarok doesn't have a release date either even though it's supposed to be 2022.

Redfall is a new franchise looks like crap and has little hype behind it. Just look at the reaction it got on here. It was a stupid point made, the fact is Sony has had two next-gen only games released in the first half of this year - and he's talking about Redfall coming out next Summer lol.

 

[FunkMiller]

All at a buttery smooth 60fps ...this game will blow our minds in 2022...Santa Monica knows how to blow minds

This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous.

It will be a very well produced, graphically solid game, with a decent story, characters, and gameplay. Just like the first God Of War.

It is not going to be mind blowing, because it’s a sequel designed to run on the same console as the first game.

Mind blowing comes when you push boundaries. This game will not do this.

 

[GymWolf]

Because it seems people have lost their minds. You people don't seem to understand what "Cross-Gen" means. The game was ALWAYS going to be held back by the PS4. It's why me and so many other Playstation 5 owners were mad when Sony said it was cross-gen.

I think people explained very well why crossgen is not an excuse when stuff like horizon 2 and forza are both crossgen and looks vastly better than their previous iterations (horizon more than forza imo), and those are both full fledged open worlds, just to add salt to the injury.

There is crossgen and crossgen.

Even the excuse that gow2018 still looks better that a lof of modern games is bullshit, because it's the same for horizon 1 and forza 4 and they still manage a noticeable (but still clearly crossgen) jump.

People forget how good looking horizon is still today, for some graphical aspects is superior to gow aswell if we are being honest.

 

[OZ9000]

For a PS4 game, GOW:R looks amazing (as does GOW).

For a PS5 game, it looks completely and utterly underwhelming.

It looks like they developed the game on the PS4, changed the resolution to 4K, and called it a day.

 

[FunkMiller]

I think people explained very well why crossgen is not an excuse when stuff like horizon 2 and forza are both crossgen and looks vastly better than their previous iterations, and those are both full fledged open worlds, just to add salt to the injury.

There is crossgen and crossgen.

Even the excuse that gow2018 still looks better that a lof of modern games is bullshit, because it's the same for horizon 1 and forza 4 and they still manage a noticeable (but still clearly crossgen) jump.

People forget how good looking horizon is still today, for some graphical aspects is superior to gow aswell if we are being honest.

Ragnarok is obviously a game designed first and foremost for the PS4. That’s why it doesn’t look vastly better than the first one.

 

[GymWolf]

Ragnarok is obviously a game designed first and foremost for the PS4. That’s why it doesn’t look vastly better than the first one.

So are horizon 2 and forza 5, and yet the still impress me more, especially horizon, the 60 frame mode is a dead giveaway dude, this stuff is gonna disappear by mid\late gen when devs are gonna be forced to squeeze everything from these new console to surpass each other in terms of graphic, except maybe for the ps5pro version (but it wasn't really the case with ps4 pro so...)

Those games are ALL designed with ps4\xone in mind (not sure about forza since i don't care about the brand), but phil was pretty clear about their crossgen program from the start.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Lots of hot takes and typical internet cynicism.

Get some fresh air and let those who love the franchise anticipate another installment.

Some of you go for the lowest hanging fruit to just go against the grain.

I can see some concise and tactful opinion but a game as revered and we'll received deserves more respect.

And if it upsets some enough why even lean into the negative so much. It's just bringing more attention the more we talk about it.

This one is going to do very well.

 

[Thirty7ven]

People calling it DLC are a joke. Same people will be salty when it’s Goty.

Go play shovelware.

 

[VN1X]

Man, I'm so glad I'm over *that* phase lol.

Imagine thinking Ragnarok looks "underwhelming". Holy fuck.

 

[MaddMatt]

You guys have weird expectations. This looked great.

 

[FunkMiller]

You guys have weird expectations. This looked great.

No argument there. It looks fantastic for a PS4 game.

But as a Ps5 owner, I’m rightly underwhelmed.

 

[VN1X]

No argument there. It looks fantastic for a PS4 game.

But as a Ps5 owner, I’m rightly underwhelmed.

Why though? Like honestly. No matter what platform it might run on it genuinely looks very impressive in terms of world detail, characters, animations, etc.

Surely you'd be more than happy to play it on PS5 with a higher resolution and framerate?

 

[FunkMiller]

Why though? Like honestly. No matter what platform it might run on it genuinely looks very impressive in terms of world detail, characters, animations, etc.

Surely you'd be more than happy to play it on PS5 with a higher resolution and framerate?

Well, yeah. That’ll be nice and all, but it’s not really anything I’m that super excited about. I’m interested in games that use new technology to their fullest - pushing gameplay boundaries to create new and different experiences. Just making the same thing prettier and smoother is rather underwhelming on a new console.

A Ps5 only Ragnarok would be more advanced, and therefore more interesting.

As it stands I’m sure I will thoroughly enjoy playing it, the same way I did the first one, but let’s not pretend we’re witnessing anything other than a straight forward sequel built for the same hardware. Ragnarok won’t be breaking any new ground. Hence underwhelming from a next generation perspective.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Kinda underwhelmed that OP couldn't spell Ragnarok properly in the title of this thread. Jokes aside yes as someone who's a diehard fan of God of War since 2005, the God of War Ragnarok Debut trailer did feel underwhelming visually. This is probably because God Of War 2018 already looked so good, it's not going to top those visuals with cross-gen game development by a big margin. For me the reason why I am excited for Ragnarok is to see how the story plays out, how are the enemy encounters going to be, what sort of additions are going to be there to the combat, will be there more newer combat animations. These are things I will be focusing on and these are literally the things I've focused across every God of War game.

The thing is while Naughty Dog managed to progress graphically from Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 3 across a single console generation, Sony Santa Monica gave an Uncharted3 (graphically speaking) in their very first game on the PS4 via God of War 2018. The latest Spider-Man game if its indeed an exclusive as it's been mentioned, that and Wolverine could end up being a graphical powerhouse.