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[Gamer79]

Interesting to think about. Processing Power in consoles have improved over 1,000 fold in the last 20 years. Hell the ps5 has about 7x the processing power of ps4. It's amazing that processing power is growing rapidly while games design, graphics, and game play do not justify the processing growth.

A ps5 has about 1,000 times the processing power of a ps2 but can't say the games look or play 1,000 times better. Here is a chart I found interesting. https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/console-gpu-power-compared-ranking-systems-by-flop/2900-1334/#1

 

[Same ol G]

Point of diminishing returns...

 

[ManaByte]

Even PS4 games looked better than PS3 games.

 

[clintar]

Uh, maybe there's a problem with being able to quantify that?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I think you underestimate how much processing power you need for complex physic calculations and AI in open-world games.

It's not just about graphics; higher resolutions exponentially increase pixel counts, higher framerates with more logic and events per frame sticking to small frame timings for steady refresh rates also require exponentially more processing power. Massive increases in geometry density (including for certain things you may not necessarily "see", but are required for certain physics calculations) also need that power.

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

WT actual F!?!?

 

[Craig of War]

There is only so much you can do we not in the 240p 360p days anymore at a point 4k and up you get diminishing returns it basic science

 

[Thief1987]

How we measure how much times games look better?

 

[supernova8]

Lol it's a real testament to how much free time we all have that this shittest-of-the-shitposts already has 8 replies (including mine).

 

[Portugeezer]

A large chunk of that is spent on higher pixel counts.

 

[onQ123]

PS5 has a 8K game that's 16X the resolution of the same game on PS4

Your move OP

 

[Skifi28]

How we measure how much times games look better?

That is an excellent question.

 

[Von Hugh]

How do you quantify visual quality? Amount of polygons? Amount of shaders, effects? How many times better would PS3 graphics have to be to reach photorealism?

 

[just_like_that]

bruh when will people understand its still early in this gen lol

 

[//DEVIL//]

That is an excellent question.

well. to be fair.. PS2 games look 50x times better than a PS1 games. a figure of speech of course.

or a 2D game from SNES to a 2D game on PS4 looks 1000x better.

I guess the OP trying to say the PS5 has so much power but we are not seeing that amazing jump in graphics.

I think he forgot:
1- the resolution the PS5 has to display at 4k is 10x more than a 720p ( PS3 didn't even do 720p in many games )
2- PS5 games exclusive and not cross-gen games are not here yet.

 

[CamHostage]

X 50 x 50 x 50 x 2 x 50 x 5.0 =

I've done the math. It checks out.

 

[bender]

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Pagani Zonda R is 10 times more expensive than Nissan GTR. Is it 10 times faster?
Lol, it's a real world.

 

[Stooky]

 

[Midn1ght]

 

[tusharngf]

Console	FLOPS	Release Year
Dreamcast	1.4 GFLOPS	1998
PlayStation 2	6.2 GFLOPS	2000
GameCube	9.4 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox	20 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox 360	240 GFLOPS	2005
PlayStation 3	230.4 GFLOPS	2006
Wii	12 GFLOPS	2006
Wii U	352.0 GFLOPS	2012
PlayStation 4	1.843 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One	1.310 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One S	1.4 TFLOPS	2016
PlayStation 4 Pro	4.2 TFLOPS	2016
Nintendo Switch	1 TFLOPS	2017
Xbox One X	6 TFLOPS	2017

damn Wii was the worst upgrade ever.. !!

 

[Represent.]

The UE5 demo legit looks 50X better than PS3 gen games. Maybe more.

Its early gen, we'll get there.

Horizon is a giant step in the right direction.

 

[onQ123]

Console	FLOPS	Release Year
Dreamcast	1.4 GFLOPS	1998
PlayStation 2	6.2 GFLOPS	2000
GameCube	9.4 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox	20 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox 360	240 GFLOPS	2005
PlayStation 3	230.4 GFLOPS	2006
Wii	12 GFLOPS	2006
Wii U	352.0 GFLOPS	2012
PlayStation 4	1.843 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One	1.310 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One S	1.4 TFLOPS	2016
PlayStation 4 Pro	4.2 TFLOPS	2016
Nintendo Switch	1 TFLOPS	2017
Xbox One X	6 TFLOPS	2017

damn Wii was the worst upgrade ever.. !!

Wii was actually the biggest upgrade where it counts 'Gameplay'

 

[Soosa]

Console	FLOPS	Release Year
Dreamcast	1.4 GFLOPS	1998
PlayStation 2	6.2 GFLOPS	2000
GameCube	9.4 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox	20 GFLOPS	2001
Xbox 360	240 GFLOPS	2005
PlayStation 3	230.4 GFLOPS	2006
Wii	12 GFLOPS	2006
Wii U	352.0 GFLOPS	2012
PlayStation 4	1.843 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One	1.310 TFLOPS	2013
Xbox One S	1.4 TFLOPS	2016
PlayStation 4 Pro	4.2 TFLOPS	2016
Nintendo Switch	1 TFLOPS	2017
Xbox One X	6 TFLOPS	2017

damn Wii was the worst upgrade ever.. !!

Isnt switch like 0.15-0.3 Tflops undocked and 0.3-0.7 docked, depending if we count 2x16bit or 1x32bit calculations, still way off from 1tflops

 

[Gaelyon]

Typical high res PS3 game was 720p. That's 921k pixels.
Typical high res PS5 game is 4k. That's 8.29 millions pixels, or 9x more pixels than 720p.

Then you add a much more complex geometry (like from a few thousands polygons per character to hundred of thousands now), a higher LOD, a much much better lighting/shadows, much more detailed animations and physics, much more complex shaders (water, reflections, metal, skin etc.), foliage animation and so on...
And you realize that 50x is really needed and easily spent.

 

[K2D]

It's better to forget about the graphics chase and learn to love the other aspects of games.

As someone who care more about vibrancy more than pixels and performance, I'm glad those are starting to see diminishing returns. Now I'd like to see broader color palates, higher contrast. More 'stuff' and clutter in any given scene..

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

How we measure how much times games look better?

Kilometres per Mile

 

[Whitecrow]

Imagine this processing power while still having CRTs. You would surely notice.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

nonsense.

 

[Damigos]

My car has 1/10 the power of a formula 1 car.
A formula 1 car is not 10 times faster, not on a track, not on a straight

 

[bitbydeath]

You sure?

 

[Yoboman]

This

Is dramatically better than this

 

[3liteDragon]

Bookmarking this thread, will check by 2025.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Does real life even look 50x better than PS3?

 

[SSfox]

Games are not just about graphics. Hardware is not only use for graphics, but also for resolution, fps, ia, interaction ect.

Gamespot used to be smarter than that, but i guess it is what it is.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Interesting to think about. Processing Power in consoles have improved over 1,000 fold in the last 20 years. Hell the ps5 has about 7x the processing power of ps4. It's amazing that processing power is growing rapidly while games design, graphics, and game play do not justify the processing growth.

A ps5 has about 1,000 times the processing power of a ps2 but can't say the games look or play 1,000 times better. Here is a chart I found interesting. https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/console-gpu-power-compared-ranking-systems-by-flop/2900-1334/#1

You sound like Trip Hawking

Did 3DO games look 50 times better than what had come before? Also we're bearly a year into the cycle and coming out of the pandemic. I seem to remember many rubbishing the start of the last gen, only for it to turn out to be one of the best

 

[Boss Mog]

You're right OP it doesn't look 50x better... It looks 100x better.

 

[supernova8]

This

Is dramatically better than this

high-res hairy nipples

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Did you forget to take your meds again?

That’s not how compute power works and isn’t really something you can quantify. Games are also more than pretty polygons, there are many complex systems in place that require that power too.

 

[reksveks]

Gamespot used to be smarter than that, but i guess it is what it is.

Think you are incorrectly assigning the point around 'teraflops and the supposed relationship to graphics' to Gamespot, that's purely the OP doing.

Gamespot is just providing the data of teraflops. They also in the article state the issue of using teraflops as a perfect metric.

Imperfections with teraFLOPS

While teraFLOPS can provide a relatively good indication of a console's performance, it isn't perfect. TeraFLOPS only measure a segment of GPU performance. For instance, AMD’s RX 480 graphics card offers 5.8 teraFLOPS, but is generally a little slower than Nvidia’s GTX 980, which offers 4.6 teraFLOPS.

This metric doesn't take into account a console's video memory, which can act as a GPU bottleneck. It also doesn't take into account CPU, system RAM, storage speed, thermals, and power limits, all of which can bottleneck performance.

 

[Skifi28]

You sure?

That looks only 23 times better. What happened to the other 27??

 

[Magic Carpet]

All that power and I still see Pixel “art” games everywhere.
Deedlit in Pixel land Was the last one I played. All that power and heat and electricity. Deedlit.

 

[Rentahamster]

First of all, how do you quantify how much a game "looks"? A lot of it has to do with art direction and aesthetics.

Second of all, graphics is not the only thing that is being used by the extra processing power. There are FPS gains, AI, level size, object density, physics simulations, and a lot of other variables that use processing power and influence how a game plays and not just "looks".

 

[Bartski]

oddly enough, they only look 37.2x better.

 

[tvdaXD]

There's much more going on than looks my man... Physics, resolution, the amount of data being moved... 50 times faster doesn't mean 50 times prettier... A car with 1000BHP doesn't go twice as fast as a car with 500BHP.

 

[SeraphJan]

hmm, the game play of 9th gen is not 50x better than 7th gen either

 

[SJRB]

Interesting to think about.

But did you though? Did you really think about this?

 

[ParaSeoul]

Another one of these threads

 

[SirTerry-T]

All that power and I still see Pixel “art” games everywhere.
Deedlit in Pixel land Was the last one I played. All that power and heat and electricity. Deedlit.

Nowt wrong with pixels, son. Now run along, there's a good lad.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

A truck can have 50% more wheels than a car. It doesn't drive 50% faster. I can't possibly have a logical flaw in my thinking. Why isn't the truck faster?