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[Gamesindustry.biz] In Europe 44% of Elden Ring Sales Were on PC

AllBizness

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DenchDeckard said:


Exactly what I was saying, PC version is the highest selling platform for this game in Europe and I will put money worldwide.

This proves that the souls series is a PC platform game and has been for pretty much for the entire franchise.

PC gaming is getting bigger and bigger and we can see how it is impossible for the platform holders to ignore it. Hopefully we see more effort being put into PC versions of games and extra features such as Ultra Wide support.
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This us because next gen consoles are hard to find. Noone wants to but new games on old gen anymore
 
PropellerEar

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DenchDeckard said:
sold more on Xbox in two weeks than demons souls did in 18 months or bloodborne did in its lifetime shared sales numbers. But you know, Xbox souls is niche and PlayStation is where the real fan base is? Haha ;)
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40/16 ... sold 2.5 times more on PlayStation.
DenchDeckard said:
pc hardware is hard to find too, unless your willing to pay a fortune. Just like consoles. I think it’s just highlighting how big PC gaming is becoming.
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sarcastic samantha bee GIF
 
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FrankWza

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Lognor said:
From just isn't returning Sony's calls.
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Is this before or after they called Microsoft to beg them to make CoD available on PlayStation?
Lognor said:
I don't know why folks keep using this argument. That is a very narrow view of the situation. Sony will also lose out on hardware sales. They will lose out on sales from other games that COD players would buy if they had not bought that XSX instead of the PS5. They will lose out on sales from DLC and microtransactions in the COD games. There is a reason that Sony came out and essentially begged Microsoft to continue to put COD on PS. It will have a material impact.
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Lognor said:
You're doing a ton of damage control to end by saying there is no cause for concern and cod will stay on ps. Remember Sony essentially begged Microsoft to keep cod on ps so to assume it will not have a material impact is naive. Sony themselves think it will have a material impact or they would not have come out and asked ms to continue to release it on ps.

Sony didn't do that with elder scrolls or starfield when ms acquired Bethesda. Call of Duty is on another level and Sony is rightfully concerned.

Where are you getting this max 10% figure of people leaving ps ecosystem due to the loss of cod? Holy shit these numbers you pull out of your ass!

Okay, but let's assume it's 10% leave ps. Assume ps5 sells 100m lifetime. That's 10m fewer consoles they sell. What's the attach rate? 6 games on average? That's 60m pieces of software sold! Age you getting this math? It's a massive loss! Sony is concerned. You know less than Sony.
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Swift_Star

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FrankWza said:
Is this before or after they called Microsoft to beg them to make CoD available on PlayStation?
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He always makes me laugh. He thinks he understand business at all. It is obvious that they’ll create BB2 if Sony pays them for it. There’s literally no reason for them not to do it since the game would be on pc and ps, where the vast majority of soulsborne players are.
 
Swift_Star

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Lognor said:
Doubt it. You don't think Sony has tried to pony up for a Bloodborne 2 after its success and the success of Dark Souls 3 and most recently the success of Demons Souls? Of course Sony wants From to make Bloodborne 2. From just isn't returning Sony's calls. It would take a lot of money to secure an exclusive from From now. Maybe if Sony would allow From to release day and date on PC they would go for it. But you KNOW Sony isn't going to allow Boodborne 2 to release day one on PC. The PC version would outsell the PS5 version and Sony would flip their shit.
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No, i don’t think they did. Do you have any source at all if this happened? It’s funny, you know nothing about business. This is not how this works.
 
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IntentionalPun

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Kerotan said:
Nah I base it on the insane software ratios I see every week.
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Every week? You mean UK boxed charts? Japan charts?

Neither are in any way indicative of how Xbox software sales compare to Playstation worldwide.

UK boxed chart sales that we get every week are hardly even indicative of the UK sales overall, let alone Europe.

When digital sales come in we obviously have a much better picture, and that picture obviously shows Playstation with a good chunk of any game's sales, but it's not even close to even a 2:1 gap let alone the nearly 3:1 gap you suggested.

ER sales in UK that include digital for instance:

According to GSD's figures, digital downloads accounted for over 68% of Elden Ring's sales. Xbox and PC were the biggest digital platforms. Almost 85% of Elden Ring sales on Xbox were downloaded, and on PC it was 73%. For PS5 and PS4, the sales were just over 50% digital.

According to GSD's digital and physical numbers, 32% of sales were on PlayStation 5, 30% on PC, 29% on Xbox and 9% on PS4.
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Look at that digital gap.

The sales gap in the UK was around 4:3 PS/Xbox (41:29 to be exact).. like pretty much all games Xbox is above a 2:1 ratio (or 1:2 looking at it from that direction).

Playstation is the most popular console gaming platform in the world.. by a decent margin.. particularly hardware sales.. but Xbox's software sales are still massive.. particularly compared to the install base differences.
 
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IntentionalPun said:
Every week? You mean UK boxed charts? Japan charts?

Neither are in any way indicative of how Xbox software sales compare to Playstation worldwide.

UK boxed chart sales that we get every week are hardly even indicative of the UK sales overall, let alone Europe.

When digital sales come in we obviously have a much better picture, and that picture obviously shows Playstation with a good chunk of any game's sales, but it's not even close to even a 2:1 gap let alone the nearly 3:1 gap you suggested.

ER sales in UK that include digital for instance:



Look at that digital gap.

The sales gap in the UK was around 4:3 PS/Xbox (41:29 to be exact).. like pretty much all games Xbox is above a 2:1 ratio.
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I don't think Kerotan Kerotan cares sadly about complete data just the ones that supports his theories.
 
DenchDeckard

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Just look at Xbox top ten based on playtime and Elden ring is only behind the juggernauts Fortnite cod and fifa in the UK. That’s insane And after 3 weeks, it’s very popular on Xbox and far from niche.
 
RoadHazard

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Bernd Lauert said:
Pure hopium. Xbox is doing better than ever worldwide, so also likely in Europe. Series is already doing much, much better than One.
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No doubt it's doing better, but still far from PS5.

In Sweden you can easily buy a Series S pretty much anywhere, you can find an XSX without too much difficulty (will probably have to pay quite a bit more than the recommended price though), but you still can't really find a PS5 anywhere.

That's anecdotal, but Sweden is not one of the markets where PlayStation has always completely dominated (but it's also not like the UK where the Xbox has historically been much more popular than in the rest of Europe).
 
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reksveks

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RoadHazard said:
No doubt it's doing better, but still far from PS5.

In Sweden you can easily buy a Series S pretty much anywhere, you can find an XSX without too much difficulty (will probably have to pay quite a bit more than the recommended price though), but you still can't really find a PS5 anywhere.

That's anecdotal, but Sweden is not one of the markets where PlayStation has always completely dominated (but it's also not like the UK where the Xbox has historically been much more popular than in the rest of Europe).
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Has there been any sales numbers out of Sweden for the current gen or previous one?
 
tusharngf

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YuLY said:
PC gaming is the sensation right now. Open platform, fully compatible, better controls, mods, better prices/sales, its just the best.

I remember the dark age of '06 - '08 , GabeN really saved PC gaming with Steam.

Sadly we already have desperate Sony fanbois "uuh yea but PS is only 4% behind! we close also i swear" . Yea bitches, u second, now go play some horizon with alloy and her bloated face, we're busy modding ER.
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i remember those days when most games were only coming to ps3 and x360. Had to buy xbox360 for the gear series.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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DenchDeckard said:
pc hardware is hard to find too, unless your willing to pay a fortune. Just like consoles. I think it’s just highlighting how big PC gaming is becoming.
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There's no doubt it is, but the Souls audience or potential-Souls audience on PC, the vast majority of them have CPU/GPU setups better performing than the XBO and PS4.

Games like Miles Morales show that players vastly prefer getting the newer games on current-gen consoles if they are available. If more PS5s and Series X units were available, the console share of the sales would be higher.

Oddvintagechap said:
**Physical data doesn’t include games sold in, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey, Ukraine, and UAE.

Yup, Playstation is most likely the dominant platform.
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Does anyone know how popular PC gaming in these markets is compared to console? They'd count towards ROTW (Rest of the World); I'm just curious if PC/console is about even or if one has a notable advantage over the other.

I've been trying to guess platform splits for sales by region but operate on the belief that PC and console (primarily, PlayStation) are about even.
 
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Bernd Lauert

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Does anyone know how popular PC gaming in these markets is compared to console? They'd count towards ROTW (Rest of the World); I'm just curious if PC/console is about even or if one has a notable advantage over the other.

I've been trying to guess platform splits for sales by region but operate on the belief that PC and console (primarily, PlayStation) are about even.
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While idk about numbers, I know that PC is big in Eastern Europe. Always has been.
 
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I kind of hoped that remaster of Demon's Souls would eventually get released on PC, but I'm glad Elden Ring did. It's the best game in the series right now and while PC version could be quite a bit better, it's serviceable.
 
BennyBlanco

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DeepEnigma said:
It's F2P. In a sales thread.
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And? It was huge while you needed to buy access too. Games are competing for people’s time as well. Sony defense battalion went from saying ER would sell best on PS to making excuses about other big games launching at the same time. Just saying another really big game launched on Steam around the same time.
 
DeepEnigma

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BennyBlanco said:
And? It was huge while you needed to buy access too. Games are competing for people’s time as well. Sony defense battalion went from saying ER would sell best on PS to making excuses about other big games launching at the same time. Just saying another really big game launched on Steam around the same time.
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This is true.

This is also one market, I think we need to wait for world splits, which may still favor the largest platform.
 
Lognor

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DenchDeckard said:
pc hardware is hard to find too, unless your willing to pay a fortune. Just like consoles. I think it’s just highlighting how big PC gaming is becoming.
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Right. And I'd bet most of the PC sales are for PCs that are weaker than the XSX or PS5. Not like people are waiting to buy this game
FrankWza said:
Is this before or after they called Microsoft to beg them to make CoD available on PlayStation?
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One has nothing to do with the other. But yes, it's documented that Sony asked (begged) Microsoft not to make COD exclusive. Look it up.

Swift_Star said:
No, i don’t think they did. Do you have any source at all if this happened? It’s funny, you know nothing about business. This is not how this works.
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I'm speculating. Sony definitely wants another From exclusive, but it ain't happening. From has gotten too big.
 
Lognor

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Swift_Star said:
He always makes me laugh. He thinks he understand business at all. It is obvious that they’ll create BB2 if Sony pays them for it. There’s literally no reason for them not to do it since the game would be on pc and ps, where the vast majority of soulsborne players are.
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No, it's not obvious. LOL, You wish it were obvious. It's not. You think you know what you're talking about. You have no clue. You are saying that Sony hasn't asked From to make Bloodborne 2, but if they did From would do it. Where's your source?

And let's not forget. Elden Ring has already sold MILLIONS on Xbox. Why would From give that up?
 
Kerotan

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IntentionalPun said:
Every week? You mean UK boxed charts? Japan charts?

Neither are in any way indicative of how Xbox software sales compare to Playstation worldwide.

UK boxed chart sales that we get every week are hardly even indicative of the UK sales overall, let alone Europe.

When digital sales come in we obviously have a much better picture, and that picture obviously shows Playstation with a good chunk of any game's sales, but it's not even close to even a 2:1 gap let alone the nearly 3:1 gap you suggested.

ER sales in UK that include digital for instance:



Look at that digital gap.

The sales gap in the UK was around 4:3 PS/Xbox (41:29 to be exact).. like pretty much all games Xbox is above a 2:1 ratio (or 1:2 looking at it from that direction).

Playstation is the most popular console gaming platform in the world.. by a decent margin.. particularly hardware sales.. but Xbox's software sales are still massive.. particularly compared to the install base differences.
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The UK is the only "strong" market for Xbox. If it's getting beat easily there the whole of Europe is a bloodbath.
 
IntentionalPun

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Kerotan said:
The UK is the only "strong" market for Xbox. If it's getting beat easily there the whole of Europe is a bloodbath.
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I mean sure, in Europe, it's the strongest market. UK is also the biggest market. The entirety of Europe is then dwarfed by the US, Xbox's strongest market, which is bigger than the bottom 9 markets combined (US is truly the #1 since China is such a clusterfuck.)

Either way there aren't 3rd party games selling 3 to 1 Playstation to Xbox by and large. Elden Ring is a Japanese game that people thought would barely exist on Xbox and you'd think the numbers coming out would make people chill a bit.

Playstation is the much stronger brand; Xbox still sells loads of software.. judging by the internet you'd think Xbox had no revenue, when the reality is they eclipse Nintendo's revenue depending on whose counting.

Either way people seem to be pulling numbers out of their ass based on the UK retail charts, which at this point should be considered utterly worthless.
 
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Lognor

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FrankWza said:
It’s just another lie and ridiculous claim you’re making. Sony called From and they’re not answering their calls?
Sony begged Microsoft not to make CoD exclusive? We’re gonna need some proof.
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www.engadget.com

Microsoft promises to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation

It's a high-profile pledge to convince the FTC to approve its takeover.
www.engadget.com www.engadget.com


"Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision," Microsoft president Brad Smith wrote in a blog post. "And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love.
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Microsoft committed to Sony after Sony begged. Read between the lines.

As for From, it's speculation that Sony asked From to make Bloodborne 2. Your pal is trying to make a claim that IF Sony asked From to make that game, they would. And that since there is no Bloodborne 2, Sony clearly did not ask From to make it. He is stating this as fact, but it's clearly misguided speculation. From has gotten too big. They're not making exclusives anymore. Too much broad appeal. Too many lost sales.
 
FrankWza

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Lognor said:
Microsoft committed to Sony after Sony begged. Read between the lines.
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Nope. Try again.
Lognor said:
As for From, it's speculation that Sony asked From to make Bloodborne 2.
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so, in your imagination, Sony called From software and they are still waiting for them to call them back because they’re unhappy with the roughly 4-6 million copies of Elden ring they’ve sold on PlayStation so far?
 
yazenov

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Its interesting that the other multiplatform game Dying light 2 sold the vast majority on Playstation

"At No.5 in the charts is Dying Light 2: Stay Human. The new zombie game from Techland sold best on PS5, which accounted for 44% of sales, followed by PS4 (28%), then Xbox Series (16%) and finally PC (12%)."


Total 72% Playstation. Interesting differences compared to Elden Ring.
More data shows that PS is the lead platform of sales for 3rd party titles.
 
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FrankWza

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yazenov said:
Its interesting that the other multiplatform game Dying light 2 sold the vast majority on Playstation

"At No.5 in the charts is Dying Light 2: Stay Human. The new zombie game from Techland sold best on PS5, which accounted for 44% of sales, followed by PS4 (28%), then Xbox Series (16%) and finally PC (12%)."


Total 72% Playstation. Interesting differences compared to Elden Ring.
More data shows that PS is the lead platform of sales for 3rd party titles.
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Is yours cumulative? This thread is about Europe so it could be different when the full splits are announced
 
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