Elder Legend
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That would of been funny, should of kept it. I thought you typed up something snarky hence why the reply you got.
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RTX 4080 review thread
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Insane Metal
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Oops (watch it first)
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Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Can still buy both 4090s and 4080s in Aus (only 2 of 16 4080 models are "sold out"). Hilariously some 4080s cost the same as certain 4090s.
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Grildon Tundy
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I agree fwiw, but people can do with their money as they please. Plus, those "suckers" funding the industry allows me to buy GPUs that aren't exorbitant that were made possible by pushing the tech forward at the high-end
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
4080 has not sold anywhere near as well as 4090 in the UK.
Could have been nvidias plan all along or the rumour to separate the 4080 from the overstocked 30 series cards was correct and nvidia thought they could get away with it.
This is a TOPS £999 card trying to be sold for £1269. Don't fall for it.
Bring it AMD and give nvidia some pain.
Could have been nvidias plan all along or the rumour to separate the 4080 from the overstocked 30 series cards was correct and nvidia thought they could get away with it.
This is a TOPS £999 card trying to be sold for £1269. Don't fall for it.
Bring it AMD and give nvidia some pain.
Justin9mm
Member
I'm not directly blaming you but the reason why companies charge this much and get away with it is because there are people who forgo all principal and pay it because they want the latest and greatest. It's not about affording it or not, it's about people feeding the company when they shouldn't be. This is how everyone loses in the long run and things become more unattainable, because of companies who have a product that people want or need and they know they can slap whatever price they want on it and there are people who will pay it.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
My brother got an MSI one for 1159.
They run cooler so just moved some fans around in his smaller case to make room.
Looks like all gone in the US maybe one or 2 pop up for a few seconds (prob canceled orders). Looks like Nvidia was right. Everyone wants AMD to challenge them but same people don't want an AMD card...
They run cooler so just moved some fans around in his smaller case to make room.
Looks like all gone in the US maybe one or 2 pop up for a few seconds (prob canceled orders). Looks like Nvidia was right. Everyone wants AMD to challenge them but same people don't want an AMD card...
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TheRedRiders
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4080 is selling like shit here in the U.K.
.hacked
Member
Woot mine shipped!
going to upgrade 3 machines with this one. Moved around the radiator fans so made room in my current case for the 4080, my 2nd pc getting the old 3080ti upgrade and friend getting the 3070ti so he can return the card we just got for the pc we built few weeks ago (he still in his return window on Amazon). 4080 pc runs a 4K monitor so I’ll use the extra power, 3080ti going on a 1440p so thats going to last years now.
going to upgrade 3 machines with this one. Moved around the radiator fans so made room in my current case for the 4080, my 2nd pc getting the old 3080ti upgrade and friend getting the 3070ti so he can return the card we just got for the pc we built few weeks ago (he still in his return window on Amazon). 4080 pc runs a 4K monitor so I’ll use the extra power, 3080ti going on a 1440p so thats going to last years now.
supernova8
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Meh have at it. It's free to complain. I'm a Brit so it's literally illegal not to complain about something once a day.
You really sound like one of annoying "AKKKKSHWALLLLYYY NO" types lol
Anyway glad I only know you through this website and not in real life. Kill joy. Peace out.
(before you get all uppity, you came at me first so get over it)
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n0razi
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Dude chill, he just corrected you on something. To be fair he could've just posted the LinusTechTips video they did about it where they showed the difference between thumbnails and how much YouTube pushes it, it's just become one of those accepted things, yes they know they look stupid but if you want your video to do well, gotta play that algorithm game.Meh have at it. It's free to complain. I'm a Brit so it's literally illegal not to complain about something once a day.
You really sound like one of annoying "AKKKKSHWALLLLYYY NO" types lol
Anyway glad I only know you through this website and not in real life. Kill joy. Peace out.
(before you get all uppity, you came at me first so get over it)
supernova8
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He didn't correct me on anything. The thumbnails are cringeworthy. I know they do it for the clicks, that's obvious. It was a throwaway complaint not directed at anyone and he came at me for no reason so here we are.
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Midn1ght
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I Master l
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Driver issue or something wrong in the gpu design?
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Haggard
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Nvidia themselves announced planned artificial scarcity in their investors call to keep the prices of Ampere cards as stable as possible not too long ago. That + no actual sales numbers most likely means "paper launch" or nowadays "scalper bot-launch".
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winjer
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NVIDIA has a fix for GeForce RTX 4090 and RTX 4080 blank screen issues - VideoCardz.com
New firmware for GeForce RTX 4090/4080 to fix blank screen during boot NVIDIA releases an updated Firmware Update Tool that should resolve an issue reported by some reviewers. Some RTX 4090/4080 cards may show blank screens during system boot. This issue has now been identified and fixed by...
videocardz.com
Dr.D00p
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Jayjayhd34
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Fomo ?Its the FOMO suckers card...
Asus 4080 Strix £1650....£1650!!
Fear Of Missing Out
KungFucius
King Snowflake
No. The reason they charge this much is that there is insufficient competition not people forgoing all principle. Just because you can't afford it, it does not mean others have no principle. FFS you can't even spell that right.
Justin9mm
Member
Who says I can't afford one? I'm waiting to see the price and performance of AMD 7900 XTX. You think only people who can't afford it have these opinions, how fucking shallow are you? GTFO
Sanepar
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No competition only if u are dumb. Even a 7900 xt will have a better raster than 3080. 7900 xtx will crush 4080 in raster. I don't care abour reflections on puddles. I'm not dumb.
Prices for last gen GPUs are still insanely high here.
You can't even buy a 3080 at MSRP in the UK.
I think it's the worst time to be a PC gamer at the moment.
Intels first GPU was relatively good so I am hoping they too can challenge AMD and NVIDIA. The market needs a real shake up.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I got one 4080 each guest house and each bathroom.
The Cockatrice
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MacReady13
Member
Noticed these haven't sold out here in Australia, but then they're selling for approx $2500 I wouldn't expect them to fly off the shelves.
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winjer
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Nobody Wants NVIDIA's $1199 US GeForce RTX 4080: Despite Lower Shipments, Retailers & Stores Are Stocked With Cards
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4080 is witnessing poor sales days after its launch and that is very much due to its absurd $1199 US pricing.
wccftech.com
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FingerBang
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MLID made a video about it too.Nobody Wants NVIDIA's $1199 US GeForce RTX 4080: Despite Lower Shipments, Retailers & Stores Are Stocked With Cards
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4080 is witnessing poor sales days after its launch and that is very much due to its absurd $1199 US pricing.
This thing will so get a price cut if the 7900xtx performs decently enough.
Sounds like a really performant card (better than I expected) but the pricing and the launch time make you think Nvidia never really planned for this thing to sell much.
The fact they sent way fewer cards than the 4090 basically proves it.
This is going to go down to 900-999 eventually.
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Buggy Loop
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Achieving the goal of making the 4090 appealing and thinning 3000 series stock.
It’s decoy pricing.
The question is what’s the expected price after ampere stock goes down. In Canada the ampere stock went thin as hell, my brother barely managed to get the 3060 ti on sale that he wanted (Asus tuf)
It’s decoy pricing.
The question is what’s the expected price after ampere stock goes down. In Canada the ampere stock went thin as hell, my brother barely managed to get the 3060 ti on sale that he wanted (Asus tuf)
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Hot5pur
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The 3080 ended up being quite the value proposition compared to this shitshow.
4080 is the standard 50% gen-on-gen increase yet the value proposition is shit, even if you consider that they are trying to move the 30xx stock.
RTX 2080 - 2018 - $699 MSRP
RTX 3080 - 2020 - $699 MSRP (+0%) (1.5x RTX 2080)
RTX 4080 - 2022 - $1199 MSRP (+>70%) (1.5x RTX 3080)
Inflation since 2020 is about 15%. Price of wafers from 7nm to 5nm is about 2x (couldn't find Samsung 8nm pricing). Then there is cooling and cost of building the rest of PCB...I'm sure someone has numbers on real part cost.
Then there is technological development in engineering a more dense chip, not sure how that's done, but I assume it's predominantly in software with some test tapeouts (probably that's pricey on a lower node).
At any rate, even at $1000 it would be a bad value proposition. Realistically this should have been an $800 card (starting MSRP).
Real 4080s are selling $1300-$1400 from AIBs.
Will see what happens when AMD launches theirs, I imagine if some benchmarks show it touching the 4090 demand will be fierce (even if it's just in raster, raytracing still largely a marginal benefit outside of a few specific games, mostly I see it as a way to make life easier for developers to get the same or better result).
4080 is the standard 50% gen-on-gen increase yet the value proposition is shit, even if you consider that they are trying to move the 30xx stock.
RTX 2080 - 2018 - $699 MSRP
RTX 3080 - 2020 - $699 MSRP (+0%) (1.5x RTX 2080)
RTX 4080 - 2022 - $1199 MSRP (+>70%) (1.5x RTX 3080)
Inflation since 2020 is about 15%. Price of wafers from 7nm to 5nm is about 2x (couldn't find Samsung 8nm pricing). Then there is cooling and cost of building the rest of PCB...I'm sure someone has numbers on real part cost.
Then there is technological development in engineering a more dense chip, not sure how that's done, but I assume it's predominantly in software with some test tapeouts (probably that's pricey on a lower node).
At any rate, even at $1000 it would be a bad value proposition. Realistically this should have been an $800 card (starting MSRP).
Real 4080s are selling $1300-$1400 from AIBs.
Will see what happens when AMD launches theirs, I imagine if some benchmarks show it touching the 4090 demand will be fierce (even if it's just in raster, raytracing still largely a marginal benefit outside of a few specific games, mostly I see it as a way to make life easier for developers to get the same or better result).
100% for pure raster. From the 4 games AMD showed the XTX was 54% faster than the 6950XT and the XT was 30% faster.
On TPU charts with the 4080 as the baseline it the XTX would be 117% with the XT at 99%. On techspot charts the 4080 is at 111fps and the XTX would be about 131 with the XT at 111.
So I think the XTX comfortably wins in 4K raster and the XT will be trading blows.
In RT the 4080 looks like it will be faster.
Strider Highwind
Banned
I just left the Microcenter here in the atl area here in GA and they were fully stocked.
You can even go on the site and reserve em
and pick one up.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Every GPU is exorbitant though. These prices are out of control. All to play games that are designed for a PS4 lol, or make a few surfaces more reflective. It’s just stupid at this point. I mean look at this site that lists the most demanding PC games.
Nvidia is jacking up prices because they lost the mining gravy train and need to keep up their revenue. We need competition in this space badly. This market is reminding me of the CPU one before AMD released Ryzen, it was Intel releasing warmed-over 4-core CPUs every year jacking up the price every time.
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Grechy34
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Dude, you are the definition of pissing money up the wall.
Grildon Tundy
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I think each 4000 series card's MSRP is exorbitant, yes. I was more referring to being able to pick up, say, the 2000 or 3000 series on the secondhand market because bachelor lawyers (lol) are buying the exorbitant 4000s, which were made and sold at that price because NVIDIA knows the whales will still buy new. We'll probably see more former mining cards on that secondhand market soon, too. And if the whales don't buy the 4000s at those MSRPs, the market will correct.
Your analogy to the CPU market sounds bang-on. Speaking of competition, I think folks are eagerly waiting to see performance and pricing on AMD's next series and how that will impact NVIDIA. Supposed to launch in December. If I were AMD, I'd take this opportunity to undercut NVIDIA. Hard. I think the market's ready for it and could make NVIDIA look even more like the money-grubbers they are
Grildon Tundy
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Honest question in mostly-good faith: for what purpose do you have two PCs with high-end cards like that? You like gaming in multiple rooms but don't want to have to pick up/move your rig or something?
.hacked
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I have kids, nice pc set up in my room, other pc is in family room. I had a razer laptop I would move between rooms but didn’t like it that much and was able to sell it and build 2 desktops for what I paid for the razer.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Thanks, .hacked. That seems perfectly reasonable to me and not quite like "pissing money up the wall". Glad you're excited about it
ToTTenTranz
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Looks like I was right and no one wants this card at its current price. With GPU miners out of the picture, the only people willing to pay 1400€+ for a GPU are those looking for the best performance available, and those might as well go for the 4090.
I think Nvidia knew this from the start, and the main reason they priced the RTX4080 so high was to hold the prices of the RTX30 from falling even further, at least until the 7900XT(X) arrive on the shelves.
