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[Mozzarella]

I'm against what is happening currently, but if you want to apply that twitter user standard (didnt read the thread) to every company you end up quitting video games.
Also i dont think purchasing video games is that big, big countries make gas and oil deals with Russia that dwarfes anything video game related, i hear even in West Europe they are still making shady deals, so i would focus on bigger things instead of indie FPS game that will barely make significant amount of revenue to begin with, but if someone is boycotting its their choice and i respect it, honestly its understandable too especially if you are eastern european, and i would stand with a hong kong dude who boycott china , an iraqi who boycott usa, its not my personal business here if they feel like boycotting then its their right and they are free to try and convince any other person with them as they want, just dont shove your ideals so much so they dont backfire, always give the other person a space to make their decision.
I will personally wait for the reviews and gameplay footage, if the game looks good i will get it, at the end of the day we indirectly support banks and big corporation in the world without even knowing so for me its not worth dwelling on such choices when their significance is hardly felt in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Jennings]

I hate to break it to you. But I'm not waiting for some fucking bum in the Ukraine to tell me what game I can or can't play.

Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

 

[Balducci30]

It truly pisses me off that people would boycott the game due to the minimal tax revenue a indie game would accrue going to Russia because the developer are Russians. Such backward thinking to punish the artists for being Russian. Getting pissed they don’t speak out when that could clearly get them killed. Like fuck

 

[Rippa]

Is that reason to discuss video game development and art assets?

If those discussions are void of religion/or politics then we’re clearly On topic. Game development and assets aren’t what we’re currently discussing here are we?

When those discussions involve religion and/or politics, they instantly become off topic.

 

[Balducci30]

To be fair, from the outside the game looks like a Soviet Propaganda tool in all but the sci-fi setting, and the dev's long-time silence about their stance on the Ukraine invasion only fueled the fire. Once the game is in players' hands they'll have actual context for all the Soviet imagery stuffed into the game, and it's possible the game will pull a Wolfenstein and it'll simply serve as a fascist back drop to the good guy killing the bads. But for now, the source of the game's funding and all of the thematic Soviet artwork everywhere in the game serves as nothing more than fuel for any fire someone wants to stoke, simply because nobody knows the context just yet.

But I'm sure everything will be cleared up as soon as the game is in people's hands, and if any Ukranian players give it the okay then everybody else can feel content playing it too. Until that time though, all we have are brief gameplay vids and an exasperated dev that chose not to acknowledge criticism until the 11th hour.

How does it look like that? It looks like it’s very clearly against the Soviet Union in the same way Bioshock was against American capitalism.

Like saying wolfenstein is pro Nazi because there’s Nazi symbolism portrayed in it

 

[Salz01]

The true question Mundfish needs to answer, what’s the frame rate on console for this game that’s basically free on gamepas?
After the answer I’ll decide if I throw a fit…

 

[Jennings]

How does it look like that? It looks like it’s very clearly against the Soviet Union in the same way Bioshock was against American capitalism.

None of that was apparent about Bioshock until players were actually in the game experiencing the propaganda first hand. The knowledge came with the experience. It had to explained in one way or another.

 

[22:22:22]

More day to day drama than CNN etc combined. Turn off.

 

[Balducci30]

None of that was apparent about Bioshock until players were actually in the game experiencing the propaganda first hand. The knowledge came with the experience. It had to explained in one way or another.

I guess it always seemed apparent to me cus in Bioshock and this they seem to have a satirical tone in the adverts

 

[BootsLoader]

Yeah how dare people not want to purchase a game from a company funded by the Russian government. Hate how people "Stand" for things, why can't they just consume product, like me?

Is this what you get from my post? Really? How dare you have different opinion? How dare you talk without any facts? Do you actually know why the war is happening?

 

[Rykan]

Is this what you get from my post? Really? How dare you have different opinion? How dare you talk without any facts? Do you actually know why the war is happening?

Why don't you tell me?

 

[kuncol02]

The game is clearly romanticizing ussr setting and that would be fine.... but not now lol

That never was ok. That's like romanticizing nazi germany or slavery in america and that always was biggest problem with that game.

 

[kiphalfton]

this was inevitable, they're a Russian developer in the middle of their country invading another one...it's clear in their responses they are being very careful with their language and they are horribly stuck between a rock and a hard place regarding any communications

Hey look, a rational person.

Get him!

 

[Dusktildawn48]

The true question Mundfish needs to answer, what’s the frame rate on console for this game that’s basically free on gamepas?
After the answer I’ll decide if I throw a fit…

Dynamic 4k 60fps

These people failed on their boycott of Hogwarts and now they have found a new target.

 

[-Zelda-]

Of course the game is supported by fascist and genocidal Russia.

Dont be fools and take responsability for your actions if you still decide to buy it, as you will directly finance Russian army.

Politics does not magically disappear just because you do not want to think about it, time to grow up pals.

 

[Arachnid]

If Russian blood money is what it takes to get me a good immersive sim, I'll make that sacrifice.

 

[Guilty_AI]

These kind of whataboutisms don't work. You can't suddenly stop importing gas. The repercussions of suddenly and abruptly cutting yourself off from gas are not comparable to not purchasing a video game,.

Europe and América knew perfectly well what they were helping fund when they decided to do business with authoritarian countries, didn't care since it was good business.

But sure, whatever excuse lets you sleep at night

 

[Fart Knight]

 

[mansoor1980]

thread is turning ugly

 

[Rykan]

Europe and América knew perfectly well what they were helping fund when they decided to do business with authoritarian countries, didn't care since it was good business.

But sure, whatever excuse lets you sleep at night

Edit: Not even worth it.

 

[G-Bus]

Unless the revenue from this goes directly to funding the war I don't know.

 

[Thabass]

Yeah, I don't care. Still gonna play it. I'm not going to boycott every fucking game because the internet has a conniption about something.

 

[Stuart360]

I'm not even sure what game this is. Is it that weird looking FPS game?, if so then i'm def playing it.

I hate the war too but does that mean i have to hate eveyhting Russian, and all Russian people too?

 

[Torrent of Pork]

No Chinese devs exist that don't have a CCP member calling the shots. All of our electronics are also built in China, with the blessing of the CCP.

The CCP is currently engaged in genocide.

Do with that information what you will.

 

[Companion Cube]

You mean those people from that country where they spontaneously fall out of tall buildings for saying they’re against their government and war— those people won’t come out and openly say they’re against their government and their war?

 

[PSlayer]

Doesn't matter! USA invaded the middle east for 20 years and nobody here boycotted american games during that time. If the game is good i'm going to buy it.

 

[Skifi28]

These kind of whataboutisms don't work. You can't suddenly stop importing gas. The repercussions of suddenly and abruptly cutting yourself off from gas are not comparable to not purchasing a video game,.

So if we're already directly funding the war with billions, can we stop pretending that we need to make a stand against some indie game? It's preposterous.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Doesn't matter! USA invaded the middle east for 20 years and nobody here boycotted american games during that time. If the game is good i'm going to buy it.

USA by no means is a saint and they've invaded for their own profits in the past, but in the recent conflicts they didn't openly engage in mass genocide and demolishing civilian cities like what russia has been doing now and during previous invasions. Boycotting everything is impossible considering how many products and resources come from shitty countries, but at least I can make a choice if it's something I don't necessarily need in my life. It's my personal choice, not planning to preach to everyone to think the same, especially since people living in or near the area of the conflict always look at the things differently than the rest of the world.

 

[Guilty_AI]

but in the recent conflicts they didn't openly engage in mass genocide and demolishing civilian cities like what russia has been doing now and during previous invasions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...-devastated-after-us-led-war-of-annihilation/

Know thy allies

 

[Drizzlehell]

Of course the game is supported by fascist and genocidal Russia.

Dont be fools and take responsability for your actions if you still decide to buy it, as you will directly finance Russian army.

Politics does not magically disappear just because you do not want to think about it, time to grow up pals.

Then we'd better stop buying video games altogether because every single VG company under the sun has dirt under their fingernails and we gamers simply won't have it!

Oh wait, I forgot, in real world:

 

[Rickyiez]

Well then stop buying anything from Corporations because all of them have their own agendas and related with politics .

Might as well just live out there in a farm

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

 

[Arsic]

They can be supported by Isis. I don’t give a fat fuck.

If you dig enough into any company and game you’ll find some reason to cancel it and not play it.

Unless a studio is going to come to my house and fist my ass for purchasing it then I am gonna play it if it’s good.

There’s too much corruption and dumb shit in the world to keep up with. Giant meteor 2024.

 

[Topher]

I'm too dense to be able to figure out what the controversy is here.....and you know what?

 

[skyfall]

Day 1

 

[DragoonWalker]

I haven't purchased any videogames made by American game developers since 2004 due to my opposition to the Iraq War.

/s

Yep. Gotta love it when folks reduce a country to its government's actions on the world political stage because that's the only contact that they have with that country and culture, through the news media. Hello! Every country is filled with millions of normal people going about their lives who want nothing to do with their government and their actions. Our governments interact with other countries via broad actions like sanctions because that's the level they function at, but you and I are just the same little people as the other guys sitting in their home on the other side of this watching it unfold. It's a fucking Russian game developer, not their propaganda department. You boycotting them does nothing to hurt the big guys up top, just the little guys, who are always the first to suffer.

 

[Art The Clown]

 

[ParaSeoul]

If you wanted to have some fun,you should have posted this in the actual Ukraine thread to see people agree with this take

 

[BootsLoader]

Why don't you tell me?

Oh why don’t you search it before blabling here in the forum? If you’re so much interested, you should know.

 

[nikos]

Couldn't care less what some self righteous prick, who clearly made a twitter account for the sole purpose of posting this bullshit, has to say.

I guarantee whatever device he used to post all that shit was made by a company that has done something dirty in some way.

 

[M1chl]

yea ofcourse those people that are complaining are from ukraine, who would have guessed?

Wonder why

 

[OZ9000]

The double standards is fucking hilarious.

 

[phaedrus]

 

[M1chl]

How does it look like that? It looks like it’s very clearly against the Soviet Union in the same way Bioshock was against American capitalism.

Like saying wolfenstein is pro Nazi because there’s Nazi symbolism portrayed in it

I am sure it would be okay to throw Nazi party for Wolfenstein... etc.

 

[UnNamed]

They probably take money from Russian investors, but it would be silly to think all the money are only from Russia, every game company have lot of investors around the world, unless you're indie.
They do nothing wrong and they don't infringe any laws, fuck those guys who act like Twitter is a tribunal itself.


But at the same time, expose all the story can't be bad per se, and despite developers don't do anything illegal, I can choose to not buy their games.

So fuck you anyway.

 

[OZ9000]

Doesn't matter! USA invaded the middle east for 20 years and nobody here boycotted american games during that time. If the game is good i'm going to buy it.

Precisely.

America has killed thousands and thousands of civilians over the past two decades but everyone loses their shit over Russia and Ukraine.

I'll be honest - I might buy Atomic Heart if it reviews well. Although I do deplore Russia, are the game developers responsible for the actions of their government? By that logic American tax payers are also guilty of war crimes.

The entire world is built upon blood money. China is noted for murdering it's civilians. America supports regimes which murders people and has been involved in a major conflict nearly every decade over the past 50-60 years. Slave labour is ubiquitous.

 

[A.Romero]

And with Tencent games people support the Chinese authoritarian government, and by buying shit from companies that support the world cup people are supporting a state that dismembers journalists and by buying certain garments people are supporting child labor and by buying coca cola people are supporting a corporation suspect of killing union reps and by getting high with illegal drugs people support the cartels and...

Ethical capitalism doesn't exist. At least accept it. I challenge anyone disgusted by this to examine their buying habits and confronting the sad truth that our hands are full of blood. It's always been like that and not likely to change soon (until the automation era comes in full force, of course).

 

[Rykan]

Oh why don’t you search it before blabling here in the forum? If you’re so much interested, you should know.

Your implication that people generally don't know is silly and the fact your response is "Do your own research, I'm not telling" confirms that you're scared of your "knowledge" being scrutinized.

So if we're already directly funding the war with billions, can we stop pretending that we need to make a stand against some indie game? It's preposterous.

You don't need to do anything. You can make that decision for yourself. But comparisons to gas imports, which have already been cut significantly as a result of the war, and not buying a video game that may or may not be funded by the Russian Government to increase soft power are two entirely different things.One is a necessity, the other is not.

 

[sertopico]

What a sensational finding! A russian game funding russian economy and vice-versa!

I'm sorry for the devs who are once again victim of the usual public pillorying but...

...This game's gonna flop regardless. You'll see. It took too long to release, the whole thing has been rebooted at least once mid development and the footage shown so far looks inconsistent to say the least. I'd put this game in the Cryostasis tier, a glorified tech demo with lots of ideas executed in the wrong way.

 

[Flutta]

USA by no means is a saint and they've invaded for their own profits in the past, but in the recent conflicts they didn't openly engage in mass genocide and demolishing civilian cities like what russia has been doing now and during previous invasions. Boycotting everything is impossible considering how many products and resources come from shitty countries, but at least I can make a choice if it's something I don't necessarily need in my life. It's my personal choice, not planning to preach to everyone to think the same, especially since people living in or near the area of the conflict always look at the things differently than the rest of the world.

Edit: wrong user.