pretty obvious that Game Pass was a desperate move.
pretty obvious that Game Pass was a desperate move.
Well I think that [], and in my sincere opinion [] is [] and that some users like to do [] with [] in their [] all day long.Anyone that thought any different was either lying or dumb
You really think it’d get a mention if it were 0,0043%?One email and two memos. Yeah, thats hard evidence. Also the % could be 50% or 0,0043%. Who knows right?
Which is not good for the industry and what many of us have said when we used the phrase, "race to the bottom."
They are trying to loss-lead the industry in a war of attrition so they're the only ones who can afford to stand on top by the backing of their parent company.
do I need to make a timeline or wat?why is a desperate move, again?
A loss is a loss. MS themselves provided it, so they wanted it known they lose game sales.One email and two memos. Yeah, thats hard evidence. Also the % could be 50% or 0,0043%. Who knows right?
It was true at the time, but what we're seeing now is the long-term effects of having "All first parties on Game Pass": people are now being smart with their money. It's, ultimately, what Xbox has incentivised us to do.Interesting quote from Phil Spencer:
?do I need to make a timeline or wat?
Must be a fanboy? Frankly, I hope Microsoft kicks it into high gear and starts cranking out good content. Sony getting comfortable is troublesome as they tend to get cocky.What a day man. I’m loving it.
A loss is a loss. MS themselves provided it, so they wanted it known they lose game sales.
This was obvious to most of us with a brain who isn't a fanboy. Funny seeing all the people who would say "No Phil and others have clearly said Game Pass increases game sales" now shift their goal posts and say "well that quote is from years ago of course it isn't true anymore." If you would've said 2 days ago that Game Pass hurts sales those people would've attacked you and said you're wrong. So glad the truth has been exposed so those idiots will finally shut up
Or it could be 30%, you don't know.Yes, I guess is the same to loss 0.5% of game sales of a platform with a potential three times smaller userbase.
Look here, there is one very small reason to buy an xbox game at this point. Collectors maybe. Gamepass ultimate can be had for a dollar with new accounts. And then you just share that gamepass with all your accounts. I for one believe Microsoft is in a terrible spot going forward.Must be a fanboy? Frankly, I hope Microsoft kicks it into high gear and starts cranking out good content. Sony getting comfortable is troublesome as they tend to get cocky.
What a delightful coincidence _ everytime i play a game on plus, i feel this uncontrollable need to go out and buy it and give my money away.Interesting quote from Phil Spencer:
Anyone that thought any different was either lying or dumb
More concerning was "journalists" spreading those talking points it never made any sense to me I remember being on the other site at the time just thinking it was total bs but most people bought it shrugs...
Are you saying that professional game bloggers inserting “GamePass really is the Best Deal in Gaming” in any article that could relate to it even by just a long long stretch was not genuine?!?This is what is looks like when "journalists" are paid to say something about a company they are covering.
It's about time people come to the realization that spencer only has the following he does because he says things that fanboys want to hear.
It's the definition of a cult of personality.
The competition was (still is) running circles around them in the market and they needed a positive bullet point for xbox.Why is a desperate move, again?
Wait for GP exclusives…Yup. Eventually MS is going to increase the price of GP and at some point it won't be the "best deal" in gaming, but you'll be too locked in to make a choice.
I can see GP going for $30/month at some point. $20 is certainly on the horizon within the next 2-3 years.
Wasn’t trying to convince anyone of anything or prove anyone wrongWell I did say it was rare. I didn't say it doesn't happen. But I wouldn't rely on that to convince people that it helps a ton with sales.
Who would have thought that the most obvious conclusion was right?
There is a reason why sony wants no business in releasing their first party games day one on PS+
It's about time people come to the realization that spencer only has the following he does because he says things that fanboys want to hear.
It's the definition of a cult of personality.
Backwards compatibility and gamepass weren't done to benefit the consumer, they were done because xbox desperately needed positive bullet points to try to sell more xbox's. Same reason they went through the phase a few years where they wouldn't shut up about teraflops. The fans wanted to hear that talk.
He's not your buddy, he doesn't come over and grill and watch football with you on Sunday's, or go bowling in your league Wednesday nights, he isn't going to be at your wedding.
He's an executive who will do/say anything to make his company look better and make more money. Period.
And the reason for that because they desperately needed a positive selling point for xbox consoles, because they were getting lapped by the competition.GP was a pitch for MS CEO to convince him that they could build the next Netflix. Otherwise Nadella wouldn't have sanctioned spending $70B to help Phil buy marketshare.re
People on GAF love shitting on MS. I think it's weird how emotionally invested people are in these plastic boxes but we all need hobbies. But also Phil Spencer says a lot of stuff and that opens him up to getting dunked on, so yeah a lot of people might be fanboys but the concerns levied aren't exactly without merit.Look at it this way. Do you think halo would still be selling like hotcakes if it wasnt on gamepass? People on gaf tend not to look at ms without emotion involved. They wouldn't have launched game pass if it couldn't be profitable. Period. It has a clear business case. Games dont always sell at full price 12 months after launch. We are not talking about GTA or something like that.
It may be a moot point if most games sales typically dwindle after the first 4 months.
Physical sales arent the end all for many games. EA for instance makes more money off in app purchases on sports games then they do selling the physical gamethis explains why certain publishers were reluctant to put games on gamepass.
It all depends how many copies of physical/digital they can sell vs the gamepass money