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Digital Foundry may not be covering Hogwarts Legacy (Update: Cunts showed up to John's home to harass him prior to all of this.)

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mansoor1980

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Sorry but I am an Ethical Gamer now.

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Gerdav

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This is such a silly strawman. No one disagrees on any matter of science or biology, the only debate is over how to treat people and where they're allowed to go. Those aren't medical concerns they're social and you know this.

I don't know why everyone retreats to this "I'm just a humble scientist" routine, do you really think that convinces anyone?


Again look, if you don't think trans people have rights, then you probably aren't going to be asking the question "Does she support trans rights?" But that was the question that was asked and that's what I answered, dude.

She's not the only transphobe, fine, that's really not something we have to litigate.
You do actually grasp they are mentally Ill don’t you, this isn’t trying to be nasty it’s a actual fact, anorexia is labelled a “eating disorder”, but is actually a psychiatric illness and is treated as such, the brain is telling them they are overweight when they are dangerously thin, it’s no different with trans their brains are telling them something that is not true, most of them are on the autism scale and have a plethora of other psychiatric illnesses.
 
This is such a silly strawman. No one disagrees on any matter of science or biology, the only debate is over how to treat people and where they're allowed to go. Those aren't medical concerns they're social and you know this.

I don't know why everyone retreats to this "I'm just a humble scientist" routine, do you really think that convinces anyone?


Again look, if you don't think trans people have rights, then you probably aren't going to be asking the question "Does she support trans rights?" But that was the question that was asked and that's what I answered, dude.

She's not the only transphobe, fine, that's really not something we have to litigate.

Do you think you convince anyone with your feelings over facts routine?

Trans rights should not come at the expense of women's rights ffs.

I always wanted to be a professional footballer. I'm still fit so I think I'll identify as a 16 year old (why not?) female so I can try my luck at Chelsea FC in women's football.
Who knows, maybe I'll win the premier league so I can be called stunning and brave.
And If anyone says it is unfair for me to take a woman's place I'll just call them bigots, transphobes, racists and TERFS because they won't be respecting the rights of a beautiful woman who just happens to have a cock and balls.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Lol this is horseshit and you know it. What do you think the ‘trans women are women’ slogan means, exactly?
It sure as shit doesn't mean that they are identical to ciswomen. It doesn't mean that theynwere born biological female or that they have two X chromosomes? We all agree on the science. Any attempt to frame this as if any of these points are controversial is just childish.

What names and pronouns we use and what policies we make aren't science, they're social questions. When people say "transwomen are women" they mean use their fucking names and pronouns, be nice, and don't make them go to the bathroom where they're probably going to be raped. That's all.
 
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Futaleufu

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Funny that they didnt get a review code while everyone else did, it seems they never asked for one and never expected the game to become this big.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I find it hilarious that this whole thing started after she made fun of a tweet referring to women as people who menstruate. It's stupid because JK and most 50+ year old women have likely hit menopause and no longer menstruate. So what are they? How do we refer to them? people who dont menstruate? so they are men? But we cant say men because there are men who menstruate now. And men with vaginas who dont menstruate because they have hit menopause.

How do you not read all that and not laugh your ass off. Thats all she was doing before she was cancelled. If they had just taken that joke in stride, she wouldnt have gone political and become the force she is today. She just got Scotland to ban rapist men from entering female prisons after a three year battle. Other changes shes fighting for now will be implemented soon enough. All they had to do was let her make the joke and she wouldve just kept on writing novels instead of doing this.
 

Portugeezer

Member
Lol this is horseshit and you know it. What do you think the ‘trans women are women’ slogan means, exactly?

The 2010s were the decade of narrative vs reality.

It seems that reality is slowly making itself known again (at least in Europe, the US/Canada have gone even more whacko) because you can only keep reality at bay for so long.

Even the fucking Scots are having second thoughts about gender ID currently.

In a decade when this shite is looked at as lobotomies are today will you pretend you were always wary of it?
What did the Scots do? Is it about the prisons? Because that is a weak argument seeing as people lose certain rights when in prison (hence why they're in fucking prison).

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mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
True too but I give money to DF for their tech analysis and to not cover such a monster game and for them to be active in REE leads me to believe they are avoiding the game because of the REE mentality thus they do not get my money any longer

Wow! Well.....one of the best ways to voice your opinion about something is through your wallet, so that's cool. And you have every right to do that. I wonder if they'll notice people pulling funds from them over this and think not covering the game wasn't worth it.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
It sure as shit doesn't mean that they are identical to ciswomen. It doesn't mean that theynwere born biological female or that they have two X chromosomes? We all agree on the science. Any attempt to frame this as if any of these points are controversial is just childish.

What names and pronouns we use and what policies we make aren't science, they're social questions. When people say "transwomen are women" they mean use their fucking names and pronouns, be nice, and don't make them go to the bathroom where they're probably going to be raped. That's all.
This isn't really true. That slogan has been used as the basis for some of the most illogical and crazy policies, like allowing trans women to compete in women's sports and allowing violent trans women into women's prisons.
 
What did the Scots do? Is it about the prisons? Because that us a weak argument seeing people you lose certain rights when in prison (hence why they're in fucking prison).

It is the edge cases such as these that bring a spotlight to the incoherent thinking behind the proposed changes to the ID laws.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
You do actually grasp they are mentally Ill don’t you, this isn’t trying to be nasty it’s a actual fact, anorexia is labelled a “eating disorder”, but is actually a psychiatric illness and is treated as such, the brain is telling them they are overweight when they are dangerously thin, it’s no different with trans their brains are telling them something that is not true, most of them are on the autism scale and have a plethora of other psychiatric illnesses.
I'm not sure your point. This is an uninteresting semantic point, the question is if they have rights and how should they be treated.
This isn't really true. That slogan has been used as the basis for some of the most illogical and crazy policies, like allowing trans women to compete in women's sports and allowing violent trans women into women's prisons.
I'm sorry, do you think "sports rules" is a field of science? Seriously wtf.

These are POLICY QUESTIONS that's my point. And some of those policy questions are difficult and controversial, because there are problems with putting trans people in EITHER sport category or prison, but these debates aren't because of a scientific disagreement, and it's really stupid to pretend otherwise.
 
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Flutta

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Lol is anyone surprised?

I mean seriously, if you are blame yourself. DF has been riding the woke wave for sometime. One of them is an active user on REEEE. I stopped watching their shit way back due to their bias.

I recommend people to stop giving them clicks. They both hate GAF and it’s users , that alone should be enough to not support them.
 
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GymWolf

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That's just false. DF does good work. They make mistakes and are far from perfect but saying that they're not good is plain bullshit. They're some of the best in the business. Alex isn't a moron either and he knows his stuff well.
Alex was crying over reee after the ion fury debacle and threw under the bus the entire gaming community to save his face because reee love when devs and "famous" people talk shit about gamers, he may be good at his work but he is definitely a spineless weak moron.

And don't forget his "this is not good for modern audience" retarded take from some time ago.
 
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Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Alex was crying over reee after the ion fury debacle and threw under the bus the entire gaming community to save face in the same place, he may be good at his work but he is definitely a spineless weak moron.

And don't forget his "this is not good for modern audience" retarded take from some time ago.
Yeah the Stellar Blade take was definitely stupid as hell.
 

GymWolf

Member
they aren't covering Stellar Blade are they?
They are gonna cover it, a good ass is not enough of a scandal and reee seems to love the game other then the usual wife buyer or fake ex-cop (and a couple more) literally shaking as usual.
 
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oji-san

Banned
Thank you for your honesty. You just hate people that have private beliefs that disagree with yours.

My position with all this shit is that if you aren't putting it in your work then why should I care. I supported Kara from LRG because she didn't bring her beliefs to work. I don't care about Hogwarts Legacy because I don't think the work itself is transphobic.

But if your position is just that you can't tolerate any creator who isn't actively virtue signaling your beliefs, then you really aren't in much of a position to be lecturing anyone else.
No quotes then?
 

NickFire

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It's the bizarre posturing like they HAVE to cover it or that they've broken some contract with their viewers that I don't understand.
There's no contractual obligation to readers / viewers for them to provide input on any particular game. But that's a red herring argument. It's not posturing for people who help pay their bills (with clicks or subs) to expect them to review the technical details of the biggest game of the year. That is literally what people go to them for. If they don't want to do it fine, but yes, they will be failing a lot of their audience.
 
What’s happening with Fightincowboy?
He banned someone the other day on his stream since the person asked yet again if he'd stream hogwarts. He got pissed and said i have no interest in this game, i dont like harry potter. Also made a script for when anyone mentions the game, it spews some bullshit about him not wanting to play it
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So she stated actual facts about the mentally ill, the view point of probably 99% of earths population not sucked up in the far left echo chamber.

I see the bigots are out to play in this thread now. Figured we'd get here.

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He banned someone the other day on his stream since the person asked yet again if he'd stream hogwarts. He got pissed and said i have no interest in this game, i dont like harry potter. Also made a script for when anyone mentions the game, it spews some bullshit about him not wanting to play it
That’s lame. I had to unsubscribe from him ages ago because he just plays too many games and it clogs my feed so I don’t believe that for a second lol.
 

The Stig

Member
Wow. To everyone calling others to unsubscribe from DF and block their ads etc.......

You do realize you're becoming one of them. While I'm disappointed theyre not covering it I can see why. So many posters here assume that they're part of the reee agenda. Have you not considered that they just can't be bothered with the hassle? As another poster said way earlier, maybe they just don't want to get canceled. Also It reads like John got harassed by these kind of people because he liked ion fury? WTF? Ion Fury is fucking great.

In fact, I was waiting for a video by them to help me decide whether or not to get it on PS5 or PC. (I dont care for harry potter but the game looks quite fun)
 
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I'm not sure your point. This is an uninteresting semantic point, the question is if they have rights and how should they be treated.

I'm sorry, do you think "sports rules" is a field of science? Seriously wtf.

These are POLICY QUESTIONS that's my point. And some of those policy questions are difficult and controversial, because there are problems with putting trans people in EITHER sport category or prison, but these debates aren't because of a scientific disagreement, and it's really stupid to pretend otherwise.
I was disagreeing with your point that "trans women are women" = just being polite and using someone's pronouns. Unless I misunderstood what you were saying. That phrase a foundational linguistic tactic to establish a narrative, so policies can be influenced afterwards.
 

SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
There's no contractual obligation to readers / viewers for them to provide input on any particular game. But that's a red herring argument. It's not posturing for people who help pay their bills (with clicks or subs) to expect them to review the technical details of the biggest game of the year. That is literally what people go to them for. If they don't want to do it fine, but yes, they will be failing a lot of their audience.
Someone else will do it, and that someone will get a lot more traffic than usual. You aren't expected to be "loyal", just watch whatever coverage is good.
 
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That’s lame. I had to unsubscribe from him ages ago because he just plays too many games and it clogs my feed so I don’t believe that for a second lol.
Exactly this, he covers a ton of shit, indie stuff, a LOT of stuff. He went on a rant of I dont give a shit about the HP universe. Right, you're willingly ignoring a shitload of views (his let's play are insanely popular) and revenues from it, from one of the best selling game of 2023, because you dont like the HP universe and you'll play some other shitty games instead.. right
 

intbal

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Time to move on from DF's unreliable information and start giving other youtubers your clicks.
Here's one example.

 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Funny that stellar blade get atacked but bayonetta doesnt

Can you see the double standard

Btw last few pages felt like ree here it stinks we got some infiltrators here

It reads like REEE in more than one way too. It totally stinks. We are 2 pages away from having a full on REEEE thread.
 

Flutta

Banned
Banning things is how we created this mess in the first place. So they ban hogwarts. you ban them. they ban gaf. the cycle continues.

we all need to learn how to disagree with each other without resorting to over the top gestures.

I usually agree with this type of sentiment. Thing is sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

These ”people” are a lost cause with that i mean they’ve already decided to hate us, lables us, ban us before getting to know any of us.

The only thing that would wake some of them the fuck up is when they eat eachother from within. That’s why we have alot of ex-re’s in GAF for example.

In this case would argue that the best solution is stop supporting any of them. Only talking about it won’t help in this situation imo.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Thank you for your honesty. You just hate people that have private beliefs that disagree with yours.

Private beliefs are their business, however operational policy arising from those beliefs are in the public domain. They made it my business by altering their behaviour in a way I find ethically dubious and counter to the interests of gamers and game developers as a whole.

I also don't hate them for it. Hate's way too strong a word, I just think its deplorable behaviour for a great many reasons.

My position with all this shit is that if you aren't putting it in your work then why should I care. I supported Kara from LRG because she didn't bring her beliefs to work. I don't care about Hogwarts Legacy because I don't think the work itself is transphobic.

I believe in freedom of expression. This is an undisguised attempt to damage freedom of expression.

But if your position is just that you can't tolerate any creator who isn't actively virtue signaling your beliefs, then you really aren't in much of a position to be lecturing anyone else.

I don't support malicious actors in the public arena. And malice is exactly what this is all about. They don't like JK Rowling's views and are seeking to hurt her financially and in terms of public profile via the intermediary device of an IP she created.

That they don't care that those damages are also incurred at all stages of the development and publication of this game is the crux of my problem. They are indifferent to any damage inflicted on the livelihoods and lifestyles of everyone between them and the target of their ire.

This to me is simply despicably ill-considered and indiscriminate. As a culture we should not allow this to pass without strong critique.
 
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SF Kosmo

Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I was disagreeing with your point that "trans women are women" = just being polite and using someone's pronouns. Unless I misunderstood what you were saying. That phrase a foundational linguistic tactic to establish a narrative, so policies can be influenced afterwards.
My point is that we all know there are differences between transwomen and ciswomen. No one argues the "science", despite the fact that people like to posture behind "I'm just talking about biology."

The questions people disagree on is policy. And there are some situations -- like prison or sports -- where the man/woman binary just doesn't fit these people, and so the policy is controversial. Because while they may not be ciswomen, they really aren't men either. I don't propose to know all the solutions here, I am just saying you won't find them in a science book.
I believe in freedom of expression. This is an undisguised attempt to damage freedom of expression.
That feels like a stretch. They aren't actively sabotaging the game, they just don't want to help. I think that's an important distinction.
 
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hemo memo

Gold Member
This was my reasoning as well. Games are supposed to be escapism from the craziness in the world. Now all of a sudden, we have DF and other gaming publications breaking the fourth wall into this political BS. On top of that, it's a small group of religious fanatics. So, this isn't about DF wanting to avoid controversy. It's them picking a side. If it was the Baptist Church protesting this game because it contains the practice of magic which is forbidden by the Bible, DF wouldn't bat an eye even though fundamentalist Christians far outnumber the Alphabet cult.

The powers that be at DF are card-carrying members of the Clown World woke cult. This isn't even about the game. It's about them wanting to punish a person loosely associated with the game. This is religious fanaticism in its worst form. The Alphabet Cult has all the dimensions of a religion. There is nothing these people are doing that's any different than what the Catholic Church did during the Dark Ages. The only difference is that they don't have the power to burn people at the stake for what they watch, read and play...yet. If they had the power, they definitely would do it. If you'd try to destroy someone's livelihood for speaking heresy, you'd have no qualms of seeing them get burned alive. It's all the same.
The game is a mega success both critically and commercially. IGN is tweeting about it left and right. Sony just announced a console edition. This “boycott” is a fart in the wind. It is about professionalism. The purple site is a drop in the pocket for your revenue DF. You lost the majority because of a small very annoying in need of professional help minority over a simple biology tweet.
 
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