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Naughty Dog commits to PC game development as a part of future releases

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
I'm fine with that but I sure do miss the days when exclusives were actually exclusive for both sony and Microsoft. Now there are no true console exclusives anymore.

Did you miss the days when PC exclusives like Doom, Crysis, Elder Scrolls, Witcher, CoD, Diablo, etc were exclusive to PC?

The door swings both ways y’know?

Now everyone benefits.
 
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Imagine wanting less people to experience games..
then imagine them switching to mobile phones as the lead platform.
 
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[Sigma]

Member
Oh look how the goalposts has shifted on this. We went from "but Jim and hermen said this". "No they're not". Now look where we are and the comments🤭
 
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3liteDragon

Member
Plans can and do change. Sony's financial plan so far has been to backstop with PS4 releases for many of their biggest new releases. What did Hermen say about that?

All I'm saying is that if I had to choose between a day 1 alternate version to be PC or PS4 I'd go with PC.
I'm talking about PS5 only titles so far, it's gonna be the same case even when the PS4's out of the picture for SP titles. Games like Ragnarok & HFW were always going to come to PS4 since they started development right after the first games came out, even though Sony intentionally didn't acknowledge that for a while.
 

Pedro Motta

Member
I wouldn't assume that. Holding games hostage to try to force console sales to increase install base doesn't make the same financial sense that it did in prior generations. The best way to maximize early revenues is to release on PC day and date with consoles. It's a better alternative than having to rely on a PS4 version.
And I wouldn't assume that. Same reason films don't release on theaters and DVD at the same time.
 
Jim Ryan needs to be arrested.

This has gone on too far.

Who does Sony think they are? Xbox?

Bring back crazy ken! $1200 PS5 pro coming, disk drive sold separately for $399 let's go! Ridge Racer and giant enemy crabs return!

#Notmysony #fireJimRyanwithoutseverancepackage

Don't let Jim Ryan homicide our exclusives! Sign the petition at wwwdot lolcopterdotgov to let Congress and the president know.
 
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Pedro Motta

Member
Jim Ryan needs to be arrested.

This has gone on too far.

Who does Sony think they are? Xbox?

Bring back crazy ken! $1200 PS5 pro coming, disk drive sold separately for $399 let's go! Ridge Racer and giant enemy crabs return!

#Notmysony #fireJimRyanwithoutseverancepackage

Don't let Jim Ryan homicide our exclusives! Sign the petition at wwwdot lolcopterdotgov to let Congress and the president know.
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winjer

Member
Seems like the game has the same camera stutters that Uncharted 4 still has on PC.

 

TxKnight7

Member
I'm fine with that but I sure do miss the days when exclusives were actually exclusive for both sony and Microsoft. Now there are no true console exclusives anymore.

Did you miss the days when PC exclusives like Doom, Crysis, Elder Scrolls, Witcher, CoD, Diablo, etc were exclusive to PC?

The door swings both ways y’know?

Now everyone benefits.
I mean a lot of people asking for Half life alyx on playstation i think many would love to play squadron 42 on consoles when it's released on pc.

i remember first far cry was pc exclusive too.
 
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Game development has become exponentially more expensive and the PC market is the fastest growing one among the 3, excluding mobile. It makes all the business sense to have your games release there.

Yes I understand that. Its more the personal nostalgia of the past that I miss but it makes perfect sense to expand to PC. Its a good thing.
 

Puscifer

Member
Simultaneous Multiplatform development was one thing first party studios didnt have to worry about. This will undoubtedly cost delays, poor polish, and other issues we see common in multiplatform releases. You cant tell me that RE4 wouldve shipped with all of those issues had it been a single sku release.

At least this means day one PC ports for TLOU3 or whatever they have working on next so that means cheaper games and better performance for us PC gamers.

Did you literally make up that RE:4 has issues? I haven't even updated drivers for the full release and I'm above 90s with RT on my 4080 which tells me how great it scales on lower end hardware if I'm pushing a full RT title like this at high resolutions.
 

There isn't? Outside of Nintendo systems. I'm talking exclusives that literally stay exclusive to the system like in the past. Sure god of war ragnarok is currently exclusive to PlayStation but it will be ported to PC. can you play Nintendo exclusives anywhere else? That's what I mean. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Actually, sony would be stupid to not expand to PC.
 

Puscifer

Member
Shit, they've released more for the platform than MS has in the same period which is crazy to even type out.



Terrible decision. Playstation games should be released ONLY on Playstation.
I was a hardcore pony for PS3 and PS4 years and still have a PS5 alongside my PC, c'mon dude it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things you've been indoctrinated for marketing purposes, let it go.
 
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Terrible decision. Playstation games should be released ONLY on Playstation.
Why is that? So you can feel like your in the special cool kids club? The industry is changing, exclusives are slowly fading away. Get used to it. This is better for gamers in the long run. A PC user who spends thousands of dollars on a high end rig deserves to play fantastic titles just just as much as a person who purchased a $500 plastic box of their choice.

It also makes sense business way, they're leaving lots of money on the table by excluding PC. I own a PC, Series X and PS5 and have 0 regrets and I love them all.

Consoles these days are more for the convenience. Instead of spending a ton of money on expensive GPUs and CPUs, you get fantastic performance out of the box. You don't have to deal with system crashes as much, weird software/hardware bugs and driver updates. This is why you buy consoles. The exclusives are part of the bonus and came with the territory, but now more people will have access to the "exclusives" Everyone wins. For the players.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Did you literally make up that RE:4 has issues? I haven't even updated drivers for the full release and I'm above 90s with RT on my 4080 which tells me how great it scales on lower end hardware if I'm pushing a full RT title like this at high resolutions.
lmao.You must be living under a rock. The game literally crashes with RT on as soon as the vram goes above your GPU. Literally every time. Everyone even with a 10 GB card is running into it.

I am glad your $1,200 card is running it well though.

On xbox, game shipped with broken controls.

On PS5, game shipped with awful IQ.

RE4 is the poster child for multiplatform games shipping in a poor state.

 

ProtoByte

Member
Funny how they went from "PS5 is still the lead platform" to pairing it next to PC as dual priorities. And it's not like they've gotten even any slap and tickle from PC sales wise. Pathetic.

This is bad news. Until they display otherwise with whatever their next single player game is, I'm going to assume this means that they are accounting for low-spec PCs for future releases. Good luck developing around and optimizing to the PS5's attributes (let me know when even mid range PC SSDs have 5.5GB/s IO speeds).

Actual exclusives are a food thing guys. It's no coincidence that people are pessimistic and unpleased with Sony's output now that they're accommodating multiple platforms.
 

ProtoByte

Member
Did Cerny account for most of the biggest PS5 games to date also releasing on PS4? Because that's what Sony has actually been doing instead of releasing on PC. Seems like developers have a better shot at realizing their vision with a PC version than with a PS4 version.
Not when they're developing to accommodate PCs that barely surpass the PS4s level, they don't.
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?


This is another reason why no Day One.



Games with Denuvo are pretty good about not being cracked anywhere near launch windows. Technical ovehead notwithstanding.

They didn't use anything other than Steam's very basic protection here, it seems.
 
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YuLY

Member
Terrible decision. Playstation games should be released ONLY on Playstation.
Shut up nerd. PC gaming is the new sensation, full compatibility, you alt-tab and you on the internet to search for guide, mods, story choice/consequences etc, Steam is breaking concurrent players records in the industry, best prices and sales. Its just the best. Jimbo is a businessman, not a basement fanboi.
 
Terrible decision to make more money and let more people play their great games, absolutely awful indeed. Cry more!
Whats the point of a playstation then? I have a ps5 and a gaming PC and guess which one I have buyers remorse for?

This, along with the lack of E3 and consoles exclusoves and AAA devs not releasing anything is why the industry is losing it's competitive spirit.

If you were born 2000 or later, I dont expect you to understand. You grew up when gaming got worse.
 

Jayjayhd34

Member
Whats the point of a playstation then? I have a ps5 and a gaming PC and guess which one I have buyers remorse for?

This, along with the lack of E3 and consoles exclusoves and AAA devs not releasing anything is why the industry is losing it's competitive spirit.

If you were born 2000 or later, I dont expect you to understand. You grew up when gaming got worse.
Your wrong gaming has only got better.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
Jim Ryan needs to be arrested.

This has gone on too far.

Who does Sony think they are? Xbox?

Bring back crazy ken! $1200 PS5 pro coming, disk drive sold separately for $399 let's go! Ridge Racer and giant enemy crabs return!

#Notmysony #fireJimRyanwithoutseverancepackage

Don't let Jim Ryan homicide our exclusives! Sign the petition at wwwdot lolcopterdotgov to let Congress and the president know.
new copypasta?
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
Whats the point of a playstation then? I have a ps5 and a gaming PC and guess which one I have buyers remorse for?
you can sell the PS5 and put the cash towards upgrading your gaming PC or buying more games
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If you were born 2000 or later, I dont expect you to understand. You grew up when gaming got worse.
some of my first video games were old retro Sega games from the Early 90s. i think i know what golden age video games look like
Fuck the competitive spirit. Make games because you want to make them and make them good, not to show up some other company. Sega made games out of "competition" and they got kicked out of the console industry for it
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Doom, Cod, and Diablo were exclusive to the PC? Huh?

They’re all franchises born on PC. You think Doom appeared on consoles first? Diablo? Call of Duty? Nope.

Same with Metal Gear. It started life on PC and then appeared on console.

Some console players complain about “their” exclusives coming to PC, while they have no problems with former PC exclusives coming to console.
 
Funny how they went from "PS5 is still the lead platform" to pairing it next to PC as dual priorities. And it's not like they've gotten even any slap and tickle from PC sales wise. Pathetic.

This is bad news. Until they display otherwise with whatever their next single player game is, I'm going to assume this means that they are accounting for low-spec PCs for future releases. Good luck developing around and optimizing to the PS5's attributes (let me know when even mid range PC SSDs have 5.5GB/s IO speeds).

Actual exclusives are a food thing guys. It's no coincidence that people are pessimistic and unpleased with Sony's output now that they're accommodating multiple platforms.
You can buy cheap ass SSDs on PC with 7.6GB/s these days. PCIE 4.0 drives are old news. We're waiting on 5.0 drives with 12-14GB/s.
 
Every playstation pc thread has a guy expressing a stance that playstation games should stay on playstation and then gaf instead of just disagreeing goes ballistic for some reason.

This thread alone has like 3 of the same tired go outside or touch grass quips and even one calling said guy mentally ill. Like Jesus Christ people lol.
 
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