Needs to be quiet or I won’t care. Can’t do another PSJet Pro.
According to rumors several 1st party studios have them and many more scheduled to receive them in Oct, its when to expect a lot more leaks and detailed specs
Need 2 jobs /joke but it’s a great model to sell more .It’s so wonderful that we have to get mid gen refreshes just to maybe get 60fps in most games now sigh
I am just taking a guess here but I think it was March maybe April when Tom finally got on board with a PS5 Pro was for sure happening and he said then 1st party studios would get their devkits soon though I don't know what he considered soonSee on this I'm not so sure, Heisenberg. *if* it is true that 1st party devs have the kits then well over a year to launch seems far too long for a mid-gen console. PS4 Pro was like 6 months max.
Also it would surely mean the APU design is already done and taped out. I seriously doubt they would/could do multiple chip iterations for the dev kits given the costs of design and tape out as highlighted by Kepler_L2.
*or* the Pro is coming earlier than we think...?
Do you think a pro will solve that?Like what reality do you actually live in?
There are 30FPS games.
There are 60FPS games that can't maintain a solid 60FPS.
There are 120FPS games that definitely DO NOT stay at 120FPS.
No solid frame rates unless its 30FPS and if you're playing a 60FPS or 120FPS game it's not a solid fps they constantly dip below expectations and on top of that sacrifice resolution.
Where is this world that you live in where things are just fine? Because I haven't seen it yet in actual reality of games I've been playing.
No, but it will alleviate some things which is good because the current trend till 2028 would be a disaster without a Pro. Or PlayStation would bleed more folks over to PC.Do you think a pro will solve that?
You specifically mentioned "big holiday rush" there is a holiday rush EVERY year lol, so the fact that it's releasing a year later doesn't make it miss a holiday rush, your statement makes no sense.Correct! But the PS4 Pro was released exactly 3 years into the PS4 life cycle while supposedly this PS5 Pro releases 4 years into the PS5 life cycle.
I am just taking a guess here but I think it was March maybe April when Tom finally got on board with a PS5 Pro was for sure happening and he said then 1st party studios would get their devkits soon though I don't know what he considered soon
Plus, at least according to how Xbox did things leading up to this gen, early devkits were just PCs with target specs and later devkits were actual working models of what was to be sold
Day 0. Gimme that power!! There's no scenario on earth where I'm playing AAA games at 30fps until 2028.
Chill dude! I have said none of that! You're confusing me with UltimaKilo smh.You specifically mentioned "big holiday rush" there is a holiday rush EVERY year lol, so the fact that it's releasing a year later doesn't make it miss a holiday rush, your statement makes no sense.
As for the reason why it's a year late it's because its most likely because of COVID.
LOL. My bad, I thought I was quoting the person that said it. I wasn't paying attention lmao. That's why I was so confused.Chill dude! I have said none of that! You're confusing me with UltimaKilo smh..
All good! I shouldn't have intruded in that specific conversation anyway.LOL. My bad, I thought I was quoting the person that said it.
So why not just start a new gen?No, but it will alleviate some things which is good because the current trend till 2028 would be a disaster without a Pro. Or PlayStation would bleed more folks over to PC.
But it don’t tho. Some kind of 4K-ish at 30 or 60 at some random rez reconstructed up to 1440p just isn’t that exciting. I was already disenchanted by the usual options given back when playing HFW. Games as recent as FF16 are already quite blurry in the performance option.Why does everyone want a “pro” so much when the current version runs everything just fine?
I would guess it will be optional like this new model coming but that indeed is a guessDo we expect this to have a disc-drive?
I think a new gen is a bigger reset than just evolution of the current console. New gen affects a lot of things from technology to development.So why not just start a new gen?
I don't think consoles -> PC pipeline is only due to performance.
Isn't it a bit mad that we are talking about pro and asking for it since day 1?
Dev cycles are so long nowadays, let devs learn the system beyond using it like a budget pc. The system got much more to offer.
It really feels like this gen just started.
I would get the pro myself but let it be out when it's out. We are hearing rumors for years and it's just stupid.
And besides that... once pro comes out, it will just move the goalpost. Pro will receive normal quality and base lower quality
Nah because if there's 100% inflation that $400 will only have the buying power of $200 in the future.If true I should sell my ps5 now while it's actually worth something to put towards the price of a pro. Hmmm
Oh I know that but I wish it wouldn't be... For me it's a waste of R&D but well as long as people (like me) keep buying... ^^"Oh it's true alright. Tom is very accurate with his past info. Also, the current consoles are pretty weak by today's standards. Mid gen upgrade is not a surprise.
A PS5 Pro would be awesome for VR; even more awesome would be VR Chat on the platform.
How is it a waste of R&D? It let's Sony and the gaming industry know what new hardware standards they are able to achieve for the current affordable tech and the future? It will give then a ballpark for the PS6 and let' them see what they can get away pricing wise.Oh I know that but I wish it wouldn't be... For me it's a waste of R&D but well as long as people (like me) keep buying... ^^"
Devs will not adapt. It's not a pc.
I hope these upgrades continue to happen every 3 years or so, the devs will adapt
Sure but I mean in my opinion it would be better to focus on the ps6 even if it's for 2028 or something. I worry that people more and more get bored to change their console every 3 years, and we can see it in this order "PS4, then PS4 Pro, then PS5, then PS5 Pro" but you can also feel "I start with PS4 Pro and I won't get a PS5 until the PS5 pro", I dunno if in the end this is a good strategy. Also the PS4 Pro is the Pro version of the PS4 but you can also say that the PS5 is the Pro version of the PS4 Pro.How is it a waste of R&D? It let's Sony and the gaming industry know what new hardware standards they are able to achieve for the current affordable tech and the future? It will give then a ballpark for the PS6 and let' them see what they can get away pricing wise.
No telling how long you are waiting to see a slim though as the new model coming isn't itHmm, might wait for that then. Although the size is kind of bumming me out (I’m assuming a ‘pro’ would be at least the same size as current Ps5).. I’m in no hurry though. Looking forward to seeing the Slim.
I would guess it will be optional like this new model coming but that indeed is a guess
Single sku productionDo we know why the detachable drive is a thing?
as the new model coming isn't it
PS5 is fine, and exclusive games looks and performs very good, same for some great 3rd party games, but the more demanding games releasing in 2024 and so on, will be all 30fps, or even 60 with a lot to sacrify. With PS5 PRO you will be able to run at 60 fps and heavier Ray Tracing everything which is running at 30 fps on a base PS5. I know there are gamers who don't care that much, and/or others who would like to see a true generational leap between generations, but there are also other gamers who want better performance, better Ray Tracing, better effects, etc. Now, think about GTA6, and how many gamers would love to play it at 1440p / 60 fps and Ray-Tracing; nothing is confirmed at this point, that is just an example/hypothesis, but if you ask me, it could be a "game changer", at least the way I see it. Or the most demanding Sony Exclusive, and be able to play all at 60 fps in fidelity mode and better Ray Tracing/effects. I think, once you try it, you would never go back.Why does everyone want a “pro” so much when the current version runs everything just fine?
All of this sounds like a personal preference and emotions at play. Companies are not here to cater to certain individuals feelings or preferences. Technology changes, industries change, things don't always stay forever the same, it's just part of life.Sure but I mean in my opinion it would be better to focus on the ps6 even if it's for 2028 or something. I worry that people more and more get bored to change their console every 3 years, and we can see it in this order "PS4, then PS4 Pro, then PS5, then PS5 Pro" but you can also feel "I start with PS4 Pro and I won't get a PS5 until the PS5 pro", I dunno if in the end this is a good strategy. Also the PS4 Pro is the Pro version of the PS4 but you can also say that the PS5 is the Pro version of the PS4 Pro.
I know there're differences of architectures, the NVME, etc, but graphically, recently for "fun" (yes I have fun weirdly) I tried my PS4 version of Forbidden West on the PS4 Pro (I only played it on PS5 before) and honestly it was perfectly fine, I felt like "fuck I payed 500€ for such a small gap ?". I'd even say that the vast majority of mass market wouldn't see a difference if you let them play the PS4 Pro version and tell them "this is Forbidden West on PS5" (I mean except the controller of course).
Also as a gamer I didn't feel in any game (yes I know Gotham was 30 FPS yes I know Starfield will be 30fps, as long as the IQ is great it is ok for me) "damn, hurry to get a new PS5/XSX version). I play on a LGC1 with VRR on and everything looks great on it.
To finish, I am nostalgic of that "wow effect" when a new generation of consoles arrive. Super Famicom when you came from NES, PS1 from Super Famicum, PS2 from PS1 etc. That gap was huge at that time. Now go on YouTube and check the difference between Forbidden West on PS4 Pro and PS5 and tell me that it's a huge gap.