March Climber
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[Corridor Crew] We try Fixing Faces in Video Games
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
This is amazing. WOW.
All this work and they couldn't make her less chunky or ugly, even a little?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
there is no work. the AI did everything for them. they just fed the AI one real life picture for each character model. the AI just maps the face on the existing character model.
March Climber
Member
Considering that the one on the right looks much closer to the actress, the design you're wanting sounds closer to this:
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
This is amazing. WOW.
Botox invented in the post apocalypse?
mortal
Gold Member
Yea though not a perfect solution, it looks tremendously better and much more natural looking.Get this fucking mod in starfield NAO!
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I know, I was being a bit of a jerk intentionally, to say: Alloy is one of the worst designed characters ever, and fixing her skin problems with AI doesn't even scratch the surface of why her fundamental design is so intentionally ugly.
MarkMe2525
Member
Yeah man, those eyes are intense in the og photage.Get this fucking mod in starfield NAO!
Incomparably better after the adjustments.the detail is gone, but the face still looks more realistic.
same thing happens with elana. all those ND facial animations are gone, and yet the face still looks better. im sure they will figure out a way to retain that after the AI pass.
People always brag about the detailed face animations in Uncharted, Tlou, Horizon, but they are so fucking cartooney and highly exaggerated to the point they are just bad, smooth, but bad. This, and the Horizon examples shows how less is more. Humans usually do much more subtle gestures than what those games pretwnd is realistic.
SirTerry-T
Member
Have Corridor Crew done an episode where they try and fix the "getting high off their own farts and smugness" in one of their own videos yet?
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March Climber
Member
The ongoing question stands then: Are devs allowed to create average-looking or ugly protagonists?
What was the point of all of those PS4 tech demos showing off how hard it is to pull off old, average, and/or ugly if gamers just complain that they only want smooth skin models on screen?
It's why I understand some of the takes here that some 'after' faces are a bit too smoothened.
TransTrender
Gold Member
I don't know who the Corridor Crew are but I don't see the point in what they're doing.
The originals are better, especially when viewed through the lens of the original game's launch date.
These models look less realistic.
The originals are better, especially when viewed through the lens of the original game's launch date.
These models look less realistic.
This
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Deerock71
Member
They cured her rosacea.This is amazing. WOW.
analog_future
Banned
Not the weird looking sex doll version, if that’s what you’re implying
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Interesting proof of concept. If you could integrate this in the rendering of the game itself so that you only render the bare minimal polygons needed to generate an accurate AI reconstruction, I wonder if you could save a lot of processing power.
It would be pretty funny if in the future DLSS 10 or whatever involves rendering what amounts to basically stick figure key frames at 15 fps and then AI generating everything else up to 4k 60 fps.
It would be pretty funny if in the future DLSS 10 or whatever involves rendering what amounts to basically stick figure key frames at 15 fps and then AI generating everything else up to 4k 60 fps.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
dude i didnt even think of that. character rendering is very expensive in games, and if you can get faces to be AI rendered from a basic mesh, it would save tons of processing power.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This is amazing. WOW.
It’s like Snapchat filter versus the real thing.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Cockatrice
Member
Nah, they look weird, you guys are fucking blind. Starfield looks better but the rest in the video? If you like your humans plastic-like sure I guess.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Check those faces between 12:00-13:40. I think this is a great tech. There is still hope for Ryu and Ken after all.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
But a pretty wax doll.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Has potential with the right crew, I guess.
FFVIIR characters sans Barret looked like horrendous ass.
FFVIIR characters sans Barret looked like horrendous ass.
Reaseru
Member
the detail is gone, but the face still looks more realistic.
same thing happens with elana. all those ND facial animations are gone, and yet the face still looks better. im sure they will figure out a way to retain that after the AI pass.
Went from happy Elena to "I don't know wtf is happening" Elena.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
It's interesting tech. The main problem I see is that this seems to be made for on the fly face morphing in video footage. But games aren't movies, games are rendered in real time by a games engine running on devices with various amounts of CPU and graphics power.
So how would this be used in a real world scenario? Do they expect developers to 3D characters with simple face models and then run AI code on top of it to improve the faces? Wouldn't it be easier to just create better 3D faces in the first place? It's an interesting "what if" experiment but kinda useless in the real world.
So how would this be used in a real world scenario? Do they expect developers to 3D characters with simple face models and then run AI code on top of it to improve the faces? Wouldn't it be easier to just create better 3D faces in the first place? It's an interesting "what if" experiment but kinda useless in the real world.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Depends on the strengths and weaknesses of both the developer and the hardware.
GPU that is bad at rasterizarion but good at AI vs GPU that is good at rasterization but bad at AI, for example.
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Comandr
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Aeris was the only one in the video that got fixed. I've always hated her new face model. It's so fucking angular. You could open cans with that god damn chin. Was also deeply upset by the group calling out their guesses for characters. Laura Croft and Cloud from Smash Bros.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
just added a shapchat filter. removed the sunburn damage. how she got “lady never even been outside to her backyard” face.This is amazing. WOW.
Raonak
Banned
Lol, yep.
She also looks weirdly crosseyed and awakard. Same with the aeris picture from above.
But atleast she has plastic looking skin now....
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Raonak
Banned
It's nice in theory, but a big problem is that because of how AI works, even with the same input, you will always get a slightly different output, so you will run into issues where characters will look slightly different each time.
A better use would be to use the AI tools during development. create a low-poly model and use AI generate a bunch of detail, then save that to the model.
March Climber
Member
Based on the laughter and inserted sound effects taking place afterwards, the assumption is that they're joking around.
I kind of agree with you on Aeris, but they needed to show more footage for me to feel certain about it.
Sanepar
Member
The retard face is goneThis is amazing. WOW.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That's a "now" problem more than it is a "future" problem, IMO.
I'm confident that with the right parameters, algorithms, and training, we'll get that sorted out.
pennythoughts
Member
I'm reminded of people taking older cartoons running at 12 or 24 frames and jacking them up to 60fps using AI, absolutely ruins the original vision.
GymWolf
Member
This is amazing. WOW.
Mahnmut
Member
I agree, every time these guys try ton « fix » anything, the end result is awful. The video about the scorpion king movie is laughable.
I think the face morphed Aloy looks realistic but weird at the same time and the game-y Aloy has fewer problems as a believable character even though her facial features are not as real.
SJRB
Gold Member
The whole concept is just outrageously dumb to begin with.
"Hey guys, we have 7/10 VFX skills so we're gonna grab a movie from 25 years ago which obviously has shit VFX and fix it" and then their result is like eh.... keep trying, dudes.
Them "fixing" videogames by slapping a VFX layer over it is an affront to anything videogame development-related. The hubris of them saying these games need "fixing" in the first place and that they're obviously capable of fixing them is ridiculous. I'd legit be offended if I was a visual dev or character designer on any of those games.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
This deep learning on faces is kinda paying off. Not bad.
Yah the uncanny valley is strong with this one. You cant just up the visuals without also upping the animation. She looks like a robot now. Unimpressed.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Most of these only make things worse tbh.
And it's not just the fact that they look too clean and plastic-like and the lack of expression puts them at the bottom of the uncanny valley. But you can tell that it's using other people's faces for reference. For example, Nathan Drake looks more like Sam Witwer for some reason, lol.
And it's not just the fact that they look too clean and plastic-like and the lack of expression puts them at the bottom of the uncanny valley. But you can tell that it's using other people's faces for reference. For example, Nathan Drake looks more like Sam Witwer for some reason, lol.
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