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[Jinzo Prime]

Guerrilla MP project? "Hunters Gathering"

New IP????

GAAS Trash?

Idk.. Leak it

Hunters Gathering? Is that the Monster Hunter clone their making?

 

[Heisenberg007]

That poster calling Sony the Disney of video games was spot on.

Talk about hyperbole and concern. One studio out of 21 is doing some licensed stuff and we start seeing comments like these.

As if Ubisoft isn't doing Avatar and Star Wars, EA isn't doing Iron Man and Black Panther, and Xbox isn't doing Indiana Jones and Blade.

 

[tmlDan]

So far, Insomniac is the only Sony studio delivering content at a steady rate. Everyone else is either cancelling projects or have games years out with no news to show yet.

so? it doesn't disprove my statement. You act like they're making nothing.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

That's a whole lotta capeshit.

 

[nial]

So far, Insomniac is the only Sony studio delivering content at a steady rate.

One of the few major studios doing so, to be fair.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Looks like this Roadmap is outdated but the license terms are still interesting

It's interesting that Marvel wants so much of that bundle revenue*.

*35-50%

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Looks like this Roadmap is outdated but the license terms are still interesting

So it looks like they do have a sales goal in those contracts, I'd imagine it's a similar contract for every Marvel game.
Wonder if the Xbox contract also has a sales goal or instead has a players goal for Blade.

 

[bitbydeath]

On one hand, that's a lot of Marvel.
On the other, I want X-Men!

 

[Heisenberg007]

So it looks like they do have a sales goal in those contracts, I'd imagine it's a similar contract for every Marvel game.
Wonder if the Xbox contract also has a sales goal or instead has a players goal for Blade.

If it is just a "revenue" goal, there is a theoretical possibility that Xbox sells however many copies they can sell of Indiana Jones/Blade across Xbox and PC, and then Xbox pitches in with the rest of the money.

It'll be extremely unprofitable for Xbox/MS though.

 

[ProtoByte]

Talk about hyperbole and concern. One studio out of 21 is doing some licensed stuff and we start seeing comments like these.

As if Ubisoft isn't doing Avatar and Star Wars, EA isn't doing Iron Man and Black Panther, and Xbox isn't doing Indiana Jones and Blade.

That's a whole lotta capeshit.

It's not like Insomniac was doing much of consequence. Their most inventive title sans Spider-Man was Sunset Overdrive. Before that, they were spamming Ratchet And Clank. Going by the sales figures of Rift Apart, they've successfully run that into the ground.

If they do Wolverine right, X-Men can be awesome.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

So it looks like they do have a sales goal in those contracts, I'd imagine it's a similar contract for every Marvel game.
Wonder if the Xbox contract also has a sales goal or instead has a players goal for Blade.

it has to be. unless sales don't matter TM.

 

[captainnapalm]

The soyboy extended Marvel universe.

 

[rofif]

Not a single thing I am interested in. All marvel crap.
I don’t like insomniac anyway

 

[twilo99]

It's interesting that Marvel wants so much of that bundle revenue*.

*35-50%

They know Sony needs them to push the boxes so they have solid leverage there..

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

That sells 20 million+ copies and scores in the 90s.

Critically and commercially successful.

Yes it will rake in the dough, but at the expense of new and original ips, worlds, stories, characters etc... The super hero junk has been beaten to death in the comics and cinema and now Insomniac can be the next factory for it in gaming

 

[Salty Popsicle]

so? it doesn't disprove my statement. You act like they're making nothing.

The general public will forget you exist unless you make an effort to show them what is coming next. Sony's lack of showcase events has been extremely detrimental in this regard.

 

[bender]

Wonder if the Xbox contract also has a sales goal or instead has a players goal for Blade.

Whatever it is, the goals are probably considerably lower considering the IP.

 

[rhodesianshepard]

That says Wolverine 2025

 

[Heisenberg007]

Yes it will rake in the dough, but at the expense of new and original ideas, worlds, stories, characters etc... The super hero junk has been beaten to death in the comics and cinema and now Insomniac can be the next factory for it.

There are plenty of original ideas in these games though.

And the cash cows are equally important. If you only have ideas, with no cash, a studio can't function like this. We've seen numerous studios flop like this. With this money, they will be able to do another R&C (even though Rift Apart lost them $8 million) as well as 2 new IPs that most likely wouldn't be as successful as any of these Marvel games.

 

[twilo99]

Yes it will rake in the dough, but at the expense of new and original ideas, worlds, stories, characters etc... The super hero junk has been beaten to death in the comics and cinema and now Insomniac can be the next factory for it in gaming

The Marvel universe has proven to be extremely profitable across multiple content delivery methods, so there is no reason to change anything at all..

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

People can cry all they want but I'm happy because I want my Venom, Spidey, Wolverine, and X-Men games.

These games are gonna sell a ton as there are lots of people that have been begging for these superhero games for years just like me. The people complaining are a very small but vocal minority and I'm sure Sony knows that. It's not like Insomniac will lose their entire identity anyway. The calendar also shows new IPs as well as a new R&C game in the works.

 

[ProtoByte]

Yes it will rake in the dough, but at the expense of new and original ips, worlds, stories, characters etc... The super hero junk has been beaten to death in the comics and cinema and now Insomniac can be the next factory for it in gaming

Watching the Game Awards, we saw a lot of new IP. Was much of it really exciting to you?

New IP is great when it's good - and it's harder to make new IP than ever these days - but I don't see Insomniac as a studio full of visionaries enough to be sad about the prospect of a new IP being lost in comparison to X-Men.

 

[tmlDan]

The general public will forget you exist unless you make an effort to show them what is coming next. Sony's lack of showcase events has been extremely detrimental in this regard.

Either way, just because they're not showing it doesn't mean they don't exist. You're changing the subject, ultimately that disney statement was false.

 

[XesqueVara]

 

[Pasta la Vista]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Cool, I suppose.

Personally not into superhero games (apart from Infamous), but Insomniac will handle it well.

Have to admit I'm curious about Wolverine and the supposed X-Men games, though.

 

[Carmen Winstead]

Another take I get from this is that there will be no Spider-Man 2 DLC?

 

[twilo99]

capeshit.

Is that a new genre?

 

[tmlDan]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

Gaming, in particular, has a pretty sparse presence of superhero games. It's not common.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Another take I get from this is that there will be no Spider-Man 2 DLC?

that's the venom game

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Oof.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

Meanwhile, out there in reality:

Spider-Man 2 Is The Fastest-Selling PlayStation Game Ever

Insomniac Games' open-world comic book adventure breaks records on PS5

kotaku.com

 

[twilo99]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

Tell that to Hollywood where every Marvel movie keeps bringing record profits..

 

[Little Chicken]

Shame X-Men leaked, that's way bigger than Wolverine.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Tell that to Hollywood where every Marvel movie keeps bringing record profits..

You don't look at the news very often, do you?

 

[twilo99]

Oof.

Not surprising, PC is a very different audience..

 

[Salty Popsicle]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

The Sony of old is gone unfortunately. If your project isn't a 3rd person action/adventure game with mass appeal, it's unlikely they will greenlight it.

 

[twilo99]

You don't look at the news very often, do you?

ah, right, I meant before they went heavy on the woke thing or whatever we call it now

 

[Heisenberg007]

that's the venom game

No, Venom is supposed to be a smaller standalone game. Technically, Spider-Man 2 won't have a DLC, like the 3 paid DLCs Spider-Man 1 got.

 

[FeralEcho]

Wtf. Why is Wolverine coming so late when it was revealed in like 2021/Early 2022? And an 8 year gap for next Ratchet? Sounds awful.

Didn't you know....the reason Sony doesn't reveal games anymore is because they don't want to show games with release dates years away that's why Wolverine was revealed in 2021

 

[Salty Popsicle]

ah, right, I meant before they went heavy on the woke thing or whatever we call it now

Spiderman 2 from Insomniac went pretty woke as well. There was a whole thread a few weeks back about how the game had to be approved by an outside firm for language and "proper" portrayal of certain characters.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

The market is already over saturated with this shit. It's a dying trend, which Sony seems to be trying to play catch up with when the time has already come and passed. Make new IPs, invest in creativity, like they used to do.

In movies maybe but in gaming, HELL NO. When it comes to superhero games, they are extremely sparse. Sony and Marvel are obviously seeing a relatively untapped genre/market and that's why they are moving in. There's a huge demand for superhero games because there are so few of them out there in the AAA space.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The Sony of old is gone unfortunately. If your project isn't a 3rd person action/adventure game with mass appeal, it's unlikely they will greenlight it.

• Dreams
• Gran Turismo 7
• Gran Turismo 7 PS VR 2
• Concord
• Firewall Ultra
• Horizon Call of the Mountain
• Sackboy
• Astrobot
• Astrobot's sequel
• Destruction All Stars
• Helldivers 2
• Fairgames

Sony does and continues to do plenty of non-3P A/A games.

 

[Thaimasker]

The general public will forget you exist unless you make an effort to show them what is coming next. Sony's lack of showcase events has been extremely detrimental in this regard.

Yet PS5's are flying off shelves doing record numbers and Xbox with their 1000 reveals can't get people outside of places like this to care to think of their console.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Tell that to Hollywood where every Marvel movie keeps bringing record profits..

And what new IP did Sony create that ended up having a very successful original series? Personally I'm not a fan of TLoU original series but they found success in something that was created by their own studios. They should let their talent carve new paths, people are hungry for new and original worlds.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

PC market is very different from the console (PS) market so not surprised to see relatively low numbers from PC releases.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

• Dreams
• Gran Turismo 7
• Gran Turismo 7 PS VR 2
• Concord
• Firewall Ultra
• Horizon Call of the Mountain
• Sackboy
• Astrobot
• Astrobot's sequel
• Destruction All Stars
• Helldivers 2
• Fairgames

Sony does and continues to do plenty of non-3P A/A games.

Apart from GT7 which is a tentpole PlayStation IP, none of those other games are on the same funding level as Uncharted, TLoU, God of War, etc. I was talking about large AAA games.

 

[twilo99]

And what new IP did Sony create that ended up having a very successful original series? Personally I'm not a fan of TLoU original series but they found success in something that was created by their own studios. They should let their talent carve new paths, people are hungry for new and original worlds.

I'm afraid they will have to find that elsewhere or wait until 2030

 

[[Sigma]]

Well, the dream of a new Resistance is dead . The dream of Insomniac creating a new IP that isn't Marvel is dead at least for the near future . Hell, I may be dead by the time they do make a new IP that isn't Marvel related .