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Ridley Scott's Prometheus Trailer

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nel e nel

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I saw Aliens when I was quite young, but I can't remember much of it.

I don't know how I've let the series pass me by, I've always meant to watch them all but I've just never got around to it. Too many films! This is the perfect excuse to grab the Blu Rays though I think :)

One thing that is intriguing about the entire film franchise, is that all the directors went on to become relative powerhouse filmmakers:

Alien - Ridley Scott
Aliens - John Cameron
Alien 3 - David Fincher
Alien Resurrection - Jean-Pierre Jeunet

The obvious exceptions would be Cameron and Jeunet since they both had two relatively well received films before, but they were still both early enough in their careers that they were only just starting to find their respective 'voices'.

ALIEN: DIRECTOR BOOTCAMP
 
DerZuhälter;33674547 said:
Much better question is:

If it is indeed the space jockeys head.... how did it get back on it's neck in Alien?

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Unless it's not the same head..

It's not a head.
It's a helmet/part of a suit.
 

EviLore

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OK, we need to stop this nonsense right now.

Blade Runner was based on a short story that had a clearly defined ending and character arc. Not enough material to demand a sequel IMO. Perfect as is.

...By short story you mean Philip K Dick novel? And DADOES shares almost nothing with Blade Runner narratively.
 

FStop7

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OK, we need to stop this nonsense right now.

Blade Runner was based on a short story that had a clearly defined ending and character arc. Not enough material to demand a sequel IMO. Perfect as is.

Someone actually wrote a sequel book to Blade Runner in 1995. No idea if it's any good.
 

nel e nel

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Like I said, this has a whole lot more behind it, but I do feel there is a slight similarity between the two. Its completely unintentional (the idea of Scott aping Boyle is lolz-worthy) of course, but I do see it.

The thing is that Alien (and Star Wars (1977 yo!) and 2001 (1968 yo!)) totally re-imagined the sci-fi genre and was basically the blueprint/influence for every sci-fi movie since then. I mean, if you really wanted, one could say that this looks like Event Horizon with a bigger budget.
 
Someone actually wrote a sequel book to Blade Runner in 1995. No idea if it's any good.

KW Jeter wrote three sequels actually. And they are supposed to be a continuation of both the book and film.

But it seems clear Scott's BR sequel would be like Prometheus, same universe but with minor connections between films
 

nel e nel

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...By short story you mean Philip K Dick novel? And DADOES shares almost nothing with Blade Runner narratively.

Yes. And by almost nothing you mean the entire premise of a detective hunting down rogue androids? Or are we talking specifics like how long and drawn out the final showdown between Deckard and Roy was?
 

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So it is set before Alien 1?

Why is the "helmet" back on the body? Or is it from a different one?

KW Jeter wrote three sequels actually. And they are supposed to be a continuation of both the book and film.

But it seems clear Scott's BR sequel would be like Prometheus, same universe but with minor connections between films

They are complete shit. It turns out everything was "a reality TV show" or whatever.
 

Kraftwerk

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OK, we need to stop this nonsense right now.

Blade Runner was based on a short story that had a clearly defined ending and character arc. Not enough material to demand a sequel IMO. Perfect as is.

..But they ARE going to make another movie. Ridley Scott has already stated this.
 

EviLore

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Yes. And by almost nothing you mean the entire premise of a detective hunting down rogue androids? Or are we talking specifics like how long and drawn out the final showdown between Deckard and Roy was?

Still sounding like you haven't read it.
 

nel e nel

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KW Jeter wrote three sequels actually. And they are supposed to be a continuation of both the book and film.

Just looked up KW Jeter. The first sequel appears to have been poorly received, and there is no review info for the other two (as per wikipedia).

I'm not terribly confident in an author who has written 3 sequels to a movie (that have not been considered for production), 3 Star Wars books and 2 Star Trek: Deep Space 9 books.
 

nel e nel

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Still sounding like you haven't read it.

I read it, several years ago. I wasn't arguing that the film was a direct adaptation, merely that there isn't enough source material to work from to make more thn 1 film.

EDIT: enough quality source material
 
They are complete shit. It turns out everything was "a reality TV show" or whatever.

I believe it, just the synopsis sounds bad.

I'm not terribly confident in an author who has written 3 sequels to a movie (that have not been considered for production), 3 Star Wars books and 2 Star Trek: Deep Space 9 books.

PKD was friends with Jeter. He really liked Jeter's Dr Adder. Jeter also coined the term Steampunk. But I've never read anything by him so I have no idea if he's worth a damn.
 

Carcetti

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Just looked up KW Jeter. The first sequel appears to have been poorly received, and there is no review info for the other two (as per wikipedia).

I'm not terribly confident in an author who has written 3 sequels to a movie (that have not been considered for production), 3 Star Wars books and 2 Star Trek: Deep Space 9 books.

KW Jeter also wrote Dr. Adder, a twisted cyberpunk novel about a doctor who makes amputee prostitutes for pervert politicians. It was pretty memorable.

Also, DADoES is really distanced from Blade Runner like most Dick adapted stuff. They just nabbed the premise and that's it.
 

EviLore

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I read it, several years ago. Would you care to answer my question, please?

Generally when I read a novel I know I've read a novel and not a short story. Just me, maybe.

Nothing you've said makes any sense from the perspective of someone who has read the book and watched the film.

They ran out of material? So you're saying the novel, which focuses heavily on new age religion synesthesia and the associated social pressures of raising expensive animals on rooftops, and where the android hunt plays out totally differently and mostly just shares some character names, has been thoroughly examined by the film?

So you're saying you haven't read the book, then.
 

Kak.efes

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Ridley gonna finish his career on top yo

I think most of his movies are pretty unremarkable. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out. The trailer hits the right chords, for whatever that's worth (it being trailer and all).
 
Generally when I read a novel I know I've read a novel and not a short story. Just me, maybe.

Nothing you've said makes any sense from the perspective of someone who has read the book and watched the film.

They ran out of material? So you're saying the novel, which focuses heavily on new age religion synesthesia and the associated social pressures of raising expensive animals on rooftops, and where the android hunt plays out totally differently and mostly just shares some character names, has been thoroughly examined by the film?

So you're saying you haven't read the book, then.

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RSTEIN

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I'm being influenced by my love for Alien but goddamn that trailer was magnificent. Just totally floored me. Way beyond anything I expected.
 

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What I really like in this trailer is the camera work. Or rather, the lack of camera movement (except at the end with things crashing down).

There are scenes were the camera just stands there even though someone is getting sucked out into space. THAT is how it should be. It really puts emphasis on them being by themselves, and of being mere little insects in the grand scheme of things.

I hope it's mostly like this, rather than someone running with a camera or shaking it every time something dramatic happens.

It's the right way to handle the camera in an alien movie: make it feel like you can only watch and not intervene. Like they are alone, separate from you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
 

nel e nel

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Generally when I read a novel I know I've read a novel and not a short story. Just me, maybe.

Nothing you've said makes any sense from the perspective of someone who has read the book and watched the film.

They ran out of material? So you're saying the novel, which focuses heavily on new age religion synesthesia and the associated social pressures of raising expensive animals on rooftops, and where the android hunt plays out totally differently and mostly just shares some character names, has been thoroughly examined by the film?

So you're saying you haven't read the book, then.

Well, like I said, it was several years ago, and yes I remember all the philosophical discussions about genetically bred animals/pets and whatnot. It also brought up alot of class issues as well which weren't really touched upon in the film. I do remember thinking "there is alot in this book that they didn't touch on at all in the film" as I was reading it.

I'm wrong, you're right.

Regardless, I don't think a sequel should be made because nerds are raging for it on the internet.
 
Holy shit... Noomi Rapace is in this? I didn't know that!

Dat casting + Ridley Scott + Alien = I'm totally watching this x infinite
 

nel e nel

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It's being made because Ridley and WB want to do it. Internet nerds have no say in the matter.

Welp, I stand corrected. We'll see how it goes then. I'm confident in Scott's abilities, but I highly doubt that the cult status of that film did not play a factor in their decision.
 

Solo

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Ridley has been hit or miss his entire career, but when he hits (which this trailer sure looks like) he is... goddamn.
 

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What I really like in this trailer is the camera work. Or rather, the lack of camera movement (except at the end with things crashing down).

There are scenes were the camera just stands there even though someone is getting sucked out into space. THAT is how it should be. It really puts emphasis on them being by themselves, and of being mere little insects in the grand scheme of things.

I hope it's mostly like this, rather than someone running with a camera or shaking it every time something dramatic happens.

It's the right way to handle the camera in an alien movie: make it feel like you can only watch and not intervene. Like they are alone, separate from you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Haven't watched the trailer yet but I agree with your sentiment. The art of framing a shot well and just leaving it there seems lost on a lot of modern directors. Hate it.
 
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