British Monsoon
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What are the chances of SCEE putting some Vita games up for download today? I'm itching to play WipEout and Everybody's Golf, but knowing SCEE they'll probably wait until the update on the 22nd.
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Some PS Vita games up on US PSN, 10% discount confirmed
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I expect the US only put them up because of the FEB. It's one week before launch so it's actually a good idea so that people can pre load if they want. I'd guess that SCEE will do the same come the 15th as that'll be a week from launch here too.
Noisepurge
Member
I fully expect to not download anything from SCEE until after 3pm on the 22nd.
You can add
Steam = 0% discount on DD of retail games
For non-sale pricing this is actually a step forward from pretty much everything else. It needs to be complemented by good sales, but I see no need for outrage.
murderofMonkey
Banned
i hope plus members will get big pricedrops later in the year. i purchased borderlands goty for 15$
LiquidSolid
Member
I fully expect SCEE to fuck up and delay the PSN releases to the 23rd.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah... Buti think the number of people going the digital only route will be slim at10% .
At 20, I was considering going digital only, but at 10...
Plus, PC Games don't have three same resell ability as console games, most have serial numbers.
Risible
Member
Read the link I provided more carefully - it comes with the cable.
That being said, I understand your point that there will eventually be third party providers. However, as of right now your only choice is to buy Sony's hugely-marked-up memory cards.
I fully expect them to have an "oops" day, and not update til about 8pm
Chiaroscuro
Member
PSN newbie here. I do not have a PS3, but I will soon get a VITA.
Is there a web interface for PSN where I can buy stuff on a PC before getting my VITA?
Is there a web interface for PSN where I can buy stuff on a PC before getting my VITA?
You're right for the most part.
I look at it this way.
Amazon: $29.99+tax= $33.50
PSN: $35.99. No tax= 35.99
I went with the PSN version. Very small price to pay for the convenience of having it on a memory card.. Granted not everyone pays tax.
The Elite
BOSS
No tax makes the deal a lot better when we get charged 13% in Ontario. That's a 23% savings in total. If I was positive Sony wasn't going to flick the tax switch back to on I'd reconsider my stance on digital.
Buying at MSRP in store in Ontario means that HSG would come out to around $45. A $10 savings means I could also pay for Super Stardust for the same price.
Ten percent off the MSRP is more than I have to pay at my local store so the pricing argument doesn't really work for me.
Then it's also not any more convenient than buying it somewhere. Sony doesn't let you download the software prior to release (activation on the day of release), they put the games up whenever they feel like it. When I order on Amazon, I have the game on the day of release, cheaper, early in the morning, in a nice case and my girlfriend can borrow my copy of the game.
I was about to go DD only (prior to knowing the 10% discount is all we get) but a 32GB card is just too expensive (another thing Sony could have done something about) so I'll just go with retail games and put them in a carrying bag or something.
I think I'd have gone digital only if:
* memory cards were priced like (micro) SD cards
* we'd be able to pre-order and download the games prior to release
* I could use more than one account on the system so I could import stuff
Another big difference to something like Steam is that there's absolutely no competition on the PSN and sales are just not as good as on the PC. Waiting doesn't pay off on the PSN, it does on the PC and it does when you buy at retail.
Then it's also not any more convenient than buying it somewhere. Sony doesn't let you download the software prior to release (activation on the day of release), they put the games up whenever they feel like it. When I order on Amazon, I have the game on the day of release, cheaper, early in the morning, in a nice case and my girlfriend can borrow my copy of the game.
I was about to go DD only (prior to knowing the 10% discount is all we get) but a 32GB card is just too expensive (another thing Sony could have done something about) so I'll just go with retail games and put them in a carrying bag or something.
I think I'd have gone digital only if:
* memory cards were priced like (micro) SD cards
* we'd be able to pre-order and download the games prior to release
* I could use more than one account on the system so I could import stuff
Another big difference to something like Steam is that there's absolutely no competition on the PSN and sales are just not as good as on the PC. Waiting doesn't pay off on the PSN, it does on the PC and it does when you buy at retail.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I can definitely see how it would work in some people's favours. I'm just bitching because it doesn't work in mine.
No tax on Amazon or PSN for me.I have no right to complain though, really. I bought it anyways because Hot Shots and WipEout are games that I absolutely want to have on my memory card at all times. I guess I'm part of the problem.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
bzzt... retailers get very little profit of Apple products; 10% or less as a rule... it's the accessories they make money on, and lots of it... They sell you a $3 cable or a $2 piece of static cling film in nice packaging for $25, and that's where they make their money.
Diablohead
Member
I personally want to keep my vita games all digital and this works out to be a fair price when UK prices right now for the boxed version are £30ish, buying american psn cards for money might be the expensive bit but I will see what happens.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
I'm not (Ontario) as of yesterday - they haven't charged me tax on PSN since it went down a while back...
Which does make a 10% discount from MSRP more appealing... I never see games for less than MSRP day one around here (system launches or special events withstanding), so a $40 game that actually costs me $45.20 after tax in store looks pretty good at $36 DD...
What a joke, and uncharted for $50 bucks DD or physical is a rip-off. I believe these games shouldn't cost more then 40 bucks if they don´t want to create a general bad perception on the system. I though sony was more compromised with this handheld in the hardest market for them that is USA.
Takamura-San
Member
Exactly Like nintendo does.....
oh..
Actually Microsoft does.....
Who else does this?
There has never been, at any point in history, an official discount off MSRP for digital items across the board by a first party software/hardware manufacturer.
Would I like it if it were more? Hell yeah, who wouldn't. But some of you calling for a $10/30% etc. cut are really delusional.
It was not long ago that retailers got mad at Sony for simply carrying a first party game digitally day one. Now we have every single Vita title available digitally day one, with a price cut to boot.
Pretty damn remarkable if you ask me. Here's hoping the trend continues with the next wave of systems.
Diablohead
Member
10% is a good start compared to a lot of digital download stuff for consoles, pc will always be ahead due to steam/origin/gmg sales but for consoles that kind of thing is still miles away.
i'll take 10% off day 1 then saving a few quid and waiting for my game in the post which with royal mail can sometimes be late in the afternoon or a day off.
i'll take 10% off day 1 then saving a few quid and waiting for my game in the post which with royal mail can sometimes be late in the afternoon or a day off.
Liamario
Banned
Couldn't agree more. It'll also become completely irrelevant when shops start reducing prices; PSN prices won't be reduced with them.
outunderthestars
Banned
How is that delusional? It's pretty reasonable if you ask me.
The same thing that will happen if rumors are true about their next system killing used game market.
1 - Eh. Nah. By the time vita memory card gets cheaper SD card will be even more cheaper.
2 - No way. not even steam is doing that.
3- I wish that's the case but its no deal breaker.
kidnaper
Neo Member
Amazon delivers faster than PSN. Delivery Date Delivery vs PSN not updating till 7pm? I'll take the physical game that I can sell once finished if I'm that psyched for it.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Most major releases on Steam get a preload option. Nearly all files required to install and play the game can be downloaded in advance, and the games are unlocked on the release date.
I think most of the frustration comes with how SCEA handles full game pricing. PS3 and PSP full game pricing is awful. With Vita, what is with jacking up the MSRP of Wipeout and Hot Shots before launch? Secondly, the PSN team is terrible, and I mean absolutely horrible at keeping full game pricing trends relevant with what retail offers. One year down the road I wouldn't be surprised if all these launch games are at the same price on PSN as they are now while at retail they can be found for 20 bucks or less.
You can say Steam doesn't offer discounts, but that really isn't true. There are a ton of games on sale for 10 to 20 percent off before release. On top of this, if you don't buy the game at launch you know it will be on a 50 to 75 percent off sale 6 to 12 months down the road. SCEA PSN team hasn't shown they are competent enough to compete in this area.
You can say Steam doesn't offer discounts, but that really isn't true. There are a ton of games on sale for 10 to 20 percent off before release. On top of this, if you don't buy the game at launch you know it will be on a 50 to 75 percent off sale 6 to 12 months down the road. SCEA PSN team hasn't shown they are competent enough to compete in this area.
The intial 10% off needs to be 20% off. That is not my main concern it is 2-6 months after a game is launched and it is still the same price on PSN and it is discounted heavily at retail. If Sony would price match retail and major online retailers +10% I think most of us could live with that.
Peterthumpa
Member
Dammit, I don't have a PS3 and I really want to play Hot Shots, damn Vita Store isn't up yet =(
FairXchange
Member
I'm impressed with the fact that Sony is giving a discount on these titles in the first place, that's a pretty big deal all things considered.
Retail is where the majority of consumers buy their products, including for video games. Sony doesn't have the ability to undercut retail by a wide margin in NA without risking the support of the retail industry in carrying their products.
I'll definitely be buying a few Vita titles for a few bucks cheaper on the PSN store, won't have to go to the store, plus it'll available on launch day. I say people are really expecting way too much if they think the games should be discounted any further.
Retail is where the majority of consumers buy their products, including for video games. Sony doesn't have the ability to undercut retail by a wide margin in NA without risking the support of the retail industry in carrying their products.
I'll definitely be buying a few Vita titles for a few bucks cheaper on the PSN store, won't have to go to the store, plus it'll available on launch day. I say people are really expecting way too much if they think the games should be discounted any further.
Spinning Plates
Member
It would be nice if we could go into a shop and trade the physical copy for a digital download code say 30 days after release.
Glorious Ownage
Member
I don't fully understand the complaints.
10% off retail MSRP on day 0 is better then what Steam offers excluding pre order bonuses. (Which Sony may even do for future games) Plus the lack of tax basically doubles that savings not to mention the convience factor.
What really remains to be seen is how agressive Sony gets with their DD pricing. If they hold regular sales or other various promotions this could be quite enticing. Even if it was a PS+ only deal.
It will still probably rarely beat the lowest prices available for retail but not having to carry the carts around or worry about online passes or losing or damaging your physical copy on top of not having to worry about shipping times or stock issues or tax are all perks that should be quantified.
This is a good first step.
10% off retail MSRP on day 0 is better then what Steam offers excluding pre order bonuses. (Which Sony may even do for future games) Plus the lack of tax basically doubles that savings not to mention the convience factor.
What really remains to be seen is how agressive Sony gets with their DD pricing. If they hold regular sales or other various promotions this could be quite enticing. Even if it was a PS+ only deal.
It will still probably rarely beat the lowest prices available for retail but not having to carry the carts around or worry about online passes or losing or damaging your physical copy on top of not having to worry about shipping times or stock issues or tax are all perks that should be quantified.
This is a good first step.
JakkuFurosu
Member
wow Sony really likes putting people in a pickle. After the whole UMD passport debacle they come at you with this.
I would personally like to see a slightly larger discount (especially a little more off on Uncharted). Now instead of going all DD (which was my plan) guess ill go on a game to game basis, which i guess should've been like that from the start.
Sony really seems to just not give a shit if we decide to go DD or not....though I have yet to see sales from them so i could be wrong....but if its PS+ dependent then ill probably have a issue
I would personally like to see a slightly larger discount (especially a little more off on Uncharted). Now instead of going all DD (which was my plan) guess ill go on a game to game basis, which i guess should've been like that from the start.
Sony really seems to just not give a shit if we decide to go DD or not....though I have yet to see sales from them so i could be wrong....but if its PS+ dependent then ill probably have a issue
Seems like Sony is making baby steps to get PSN up on US Vita. The Live Screen for the store is populated with banners for games and movies, but they don't link anywhere yet though.
A small annoyance comes in the issue that the US Hot Shots Golf digital download swaps my O and X buttons. Hoping it's just this game that does this and it's not an issue with all my Vita games defaulting to the JP standard on menus and such.
A small annoyance comes in the issue that the US Hot Shots Golf digital download swaps my O and X buttons. Hoping it's just this game that does this and it's not an issue with all my Vita games defaulting to the JP standard on menus and such.
Peterthumpa
Member
The banners for the PSN Store LiveArea for US Accounts are up for a few days already.
crazygambit
Member
Actually for a $30 game the savings would be 26%. ($33.90 vs $27). In my country tax is 20% plus local retailers profit, plus screwed up exchange rates and shipping costs. I'm looking at serious savings over retail.
I'm still not clear on how to buy without a PS3 or different region accounts though.
Right, but if no game can be sold back as used as it will not work on another account lets say, its a step to screw the used game market. Same thing happens if games are pushed to DD instead.