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FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 |OT| Change the Future

duckroll

Member
I keep getting my butt whooped by DLC Lightning and her comrade. Is DLC Omega any easier? For reference, my stats are max out for COM and RAV for both Serah and Noel. My monsters are Green Chocobo (Medic), Chicu (Commando), and Purple Chocobo (Synergist). Am I doing something wrong? *sigh*

Sounds like your party just sucks right now. The Lightning and Amoda fight is supposed to be pretty easy for those who have beaten the game. Maxing out just two roles isn't generally "enough" for the optional content in the game. The levels for your monsters and what skills you've infused into them will also make a difference in post-game content.

If you cannot beat Lightning, you probably cannot beat the final boss in the game. Just saying. That should be a decent benchmark. If you can beat the final boss, you stand a good chance of being able to beat Omega, but you'll definitely need a Sentinel-centric paradigm to survive his Wave Cannon attack.


Edit: One thing that you're doing "wrong" that I can think of is that you're not using a RAV monster. This works against you in this fight, because what you want to do is to stagger one of them in the battle as soon as possible (preferably Amoda since his grenades are annoying). Once you do that, you can launch with a COM and continue raping him while he's in the air. This means that you'll effective just be eating damage from the other active character, instead of both at once.
 

Replicant

Member
Sounds like your party just sucks right now. The Lightning and Amoda fight is supposed to be pretty easy for those who have beaten the game. Maxing out just two roles isn't generally "enough" for the optional content in the game. The levels for your monsters and what skills you've infused into them will also make a difference in post-game content.

If you cannot beat Lightning, you probably cannot beat the final boss in the game. Just saying. That should be a decent benchmark. If you can beat the final boss, you stand a good chance of being able to beat Omega, but you'll definitely need a Sentinel-centric paradigm to survive his Wave Cannon attack.

So is Lightning a post-game enemy I should tackle? But you said if I can't beat Lightning, I have even less chance of beating the boss.....Actually, I should mention that when I said I can't beat Lightning, I mean I can't beat her when she's with Amoda. Lightning on her own is pretty easy.

Edit: One thing that you're doing "wrong" that I can think of is that you're not using a RAV monster. This works against you in this fight, because what you want to do is to stagger one of them in the battle as soon as possible (preferably Amoda since his grenades are annoying). Once you do that, you can launch with a COM and continue raping him while he's in the air. This means that you'll effective just be eating damage from the other active character, instead of both at once.

Yes! I always have problem with Amoda because he kept grenade spamming my party so I got too busy healing everyone to even do any kind of attack on him. I did have RAV/RAV/COM party but none of the RAV is a monster. I didn't know that having RAV monster makes a whole lot of difference. Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try then.

Also, what's everyone take of the best monster for COM/RAV/MED/SYN/SAB?
 

Zoe

Member
What's the best place to grind before the final boss? I heard how hard it is, so I want to level a bit before I take a crack at it.

I had a really hard time just getting to the very end. I didn't go anywhere specific--just start collecting the optional fragments.
 

duckroll

Member
So is Lightning a post-game enemy I should tackle? But you said if I can't beat Lightning, I have even less chance of beating the boss.....Actually, I should mention that when I said I can't beat Lightning, I mean I can't beat her when she's with Amoda. Lightning on her own is pretty easy.

The DLCs are considered "post-game" content for most people because they're released some time after the initial release of the game, and hence most people tend to tackle them after they have finished the main story. Lightning can definitely be beaten before you beat the game, but it's easier if you already completed the main story since you would have to be strong enough to beat the final boss.

Yes! I always have problem with Amoda because he kept grenade spamming my party so I got too busy healing everyone to even do any kind of attack on him. I did have RAV/RAV/COM party but none of the RAV is a monster. I didn't know that having RAV monster makes a whole lot of difference. Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try then.

Also, what's everyone take of the best monster for COM/RAV/MED/SYN/SAB?

A monster RAV definitely makes a big difference for me, because I keep Noel as my COM. With a solid RAV monster, RAV/COM/RAV and RAV/RAV/RAV will always be better than RAV/RAV/COM no matter what your COM monster is. Since the COM doesn't help with the chaining, which is what you're really after in this set up.

Cloudburst, Blue Chocobo, and Lightning are considered the best RAVs in the game right now. I beat Lightning & Amoda pretty easily using a Cloudburst and a Green Chocobo. The Green Chocobo was like level96 when I did that, and the Cloudburst was lvl30 or so, with a few other -ga spells infused into it from other bomb monsters.
 
When in doubt, get a good SEN monster like a silver chocobo.

MED,COM,SEN tends to be a good fall back when things are getting tough. If you have a high powered COM monster, can let Noel be the SEN and switch back and forth between two similar paradigms with the occasional RAV RAV RAV to speed things along when things are looking safe.
 

jersoc

Member
i'm trying to turn in the last 100% explored map, which is acedemia, but the person won't accept it.

not sure what's going on here :|
 

ezekial45

Banned
The final boss fight is fucking bullshit.
Just when I have him at around 25% or so, he pulls this move called Dying Sun out of nowhere, and wipes my entire group. That's about 30+ minutes down the drain.

Is there a good place I can grind for some CP and Gil?
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
So I've gotten all of my Med/Rav/Com abilities on the grid. Are the Sentinel and Syn/Sab (-ga) abilities even useful? Or should I just max out my Rav/Com.
 

burgerdog

Member
I just realized that I don't have omega and duck does. I've killed it a few times and no drop. I do have amodar, though, got him on my second kill when it would take me 20 mins to kill the pair.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
So I've gotten all of my Med/Rav/Com abilities on the grid. Are the Sentinel and Syn/Sab (-ga) abilities even useful? Or should I just max out my Rav/Com.
You can get away with not using Syn/Sab until post game, really. Sentinel is mostly the same after you get the basic skills.
 

Zeliard

Member
Game's growing on me after a rough start; I've been enjoying this experience a lot more than FFXIII, which I practically had to force myself through for the time I did play it. I'm having a lot more fun here. Maybe because you get the neater abilities earlier on, with far less of the drip-feed tutorials, and less forward linearity? Probably a mix of all that stuff. It also feels like it takes itself far less seriously and the story, despite being as convoluted as ever, is lighter and more enjoyable.

My major complaint is that the game does feel noticeably easier (with easy and normal difficulties, shouldn't there also be a "hard?"). Battles have all been a breeze so far, though the fast-paced and visually-impressive nature of it manages to hide that pretty well. Hoping that ramps up later on.
 

ezekial45

Banned
The final boss fight is fucking bullshit.
Just when I have him at around 25% or so, he pulls this move called Dying Sun out of nowhere, and wipes my entire group. That's about 30+ minutes down the drain.

Is there a good place I can grind for some CP and Gil?

Anyone?
 

duckroll

Member
Have you considered using SEN/SEN/MED to survive the attack instead? I'm not exactly sure what grinding Gil would achieve to help against the fight.
 

I had the same problem and essentially chose to hunt fragments instead. After amassing quite a lot of them, the next time I fought the final boss there wasn't one time I worried about dying, and cleared it in about 7 minutes. I had a maxed golden chocobo in my party too and most roles maxed out for both Noel and Serah, and I accomplished most of this just naturally by sidequesting.

I think if I had to actually just plainly grind myself through all of that I would have hated it, but by actually doing things and just naturally leveling up and getting better weapons and better monsters, I was able to flatline the motherfucker. This may not help you, but I found it to be a much better experience-- got most of the fragments and leveled up enough in the process to breeze through the final battles. Killed two birds with one stone kinda thing.

edit: lol, yep what Zoe said.
 

Meier

Member
I actually beat the final boss on my second try (first time I died due to not switching to SEN at the instant kill shot) with a 5* rating and not even having two skills maxed out. I was around 99/80/a mix of the others.

Used the golden chocobo (45), green chocobo (51) and the SEN beast that has the shell at only 21 or so (first time I'd ever used it). Used Rav/Rav/Sen for my stagger moments.

Started fight as Sab (Serah), Syn (Noel) and Medic (Green chocobo).
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Having Chichu and just maxing out your Monsters also help.
Also are you lowering one of the dragons kill the other, then go back to killing the weakened one? This way you can deal as much damage as you can and easily defend against his Flare attacks.
 

Chris R

Member
Played another hour or so today and really like the combat, just wish the battle intro/outro stuff was quicker.

And I'll be able to transfer these low level mobs that I'm leveling up into better ones when I find them right? The "Combine" feature didn't seem to be doing anything at my current levels. Because I'm guessing I'm going to find a better healer than Cait Sith sometime.
 

Goli

Member
Serah's Resort Style outfit and Noel's Space-time Guardian outfit are now on JPSN!
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https://twitter.com/#!/aibo_ac7/status/171779972053221376/photo/1
Edit: Beaten, once more :p.
 

Meier

Member
I did. The
Giga/tera Flare attacks are a non-issue. But its Dying Sun attack has no warning.
I was at nearly at full health when he pulled that attack.

There actually is a warning. You see "Count 2", "Count 1" and then boom. There's about 5-10 seconds between the intervals. That is the only time I switched to Tortoise.
 
Personally I only really levelled in the Bresha Ruins 300AF because I wanted to capture a tomberry. The monsters here are super quick and easy to kill (also easy place to get the 100 fights stopwatch trophy). This enabled my to get enough gil to max out my chichu (not yet with infusions) and then you can pretty much just run MED,SEN,COM and let him destroy the end bosses alone. Can also throw in a bit of SYN,SEN,COM to speed it up and make it really easy.
 
god, how many chocobo colours are there and why are they all so hard to catch? except the sucky yellow ones which just keep joining you even if you don't want them.
 

Replicant

Member
For the love of Etros, what should I do with the
Guy who can't remember his name in Yascha Maschif 110AF? Yes, I've talked to the girl who ended up in Hope/Alyssa's tent in Yascha Maschif 100AF but she doesn't give me any kind of name or any object like some people said she will. I've done 5/6 fragments in YM 110AF so I don't know what else I could have missed apart from this guy who lost his memory.

Halp please!

god, how many chocobo colours are there and why are they all so hard to catch? except the sucky yellow ones which just keep joining you even if you don't want them.

Are the Yellow ones really that useless? I'm considering of absorbing it for the Green ones so I can get all of its passive abilities (which are pretty good since it's already up to level 40) but I'm hesitant to do so.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
There actually is a warning. You see "Count 2", "Count 1" and then boom. There's about 5-10 seconds between the intervals. That is the only time I switched to Tortoise.
Yeah, you heal at Count 2 and then swap at Count 1.

The easiest is the silver chocobo, you don't even have to fight anything to get it
Same with the Gold Chocobo, actually. The two most powerful Chocobos in the game!
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Cool, looking forward to this DLC. A good way to show support to the devs for making such a great game...and also see most of Serah's boobs.

You're not really supporting the devs as you are more supporting more poor DLC transactions. Though I guess that can be debatable.
 
My Silver Chocobo rocks. I leveled him up like crazy using only vitality materials and he has like 11k HP now and is an awesome tank.

BTW, hardest fight in the game: Paradox Ending of
Serah vs Caius. Dude is just impossible - even on EASY. I ended up having to use SAB/SEN and just wound him down to 27k health (he wouldn't go lower). Then poison, deshell, switch to RAV/SEN until he died. Even then it still took a long time because of his annoying moves - which he can chain like crazy to one-shot you. If he's not constantly attacking your SEN, it's over :(
 
Man, I'm so close to 100%ing FF XIII-2, I can just taste it. I've gotten all the Fragments and seen the secret ending (which added absolutely nothing to the regular ending, meh), and I have all but two trophies.

But one of those trophies is Serendipitous, and the game just refuses to let me have it. I've left the game on overnight twice now -- with the slots auto-playing on "a hot summer's day" both times -- and gotten nothing. I started with 10,000 coins each time, and ended up with 0 coins and no trophy in the morning. But I've been reading multiple accounts of people who got the trophy after leaving it on for just a couple hours, so my luck with these stupid slot machines must just be monumentally low. I know I've got to be close, since the slot machine Fragment requires you to win 7,777 coins and Serendipitous requires winning 10,000 (right?), but... man. I hate these damn slots.

The other one I have to get is Clock Stopper. It'll be annoying, but ultimately fairly easy to get, I think. Almost there...

Also, imagine how silly I felt when I thought that, after Yomi, I had beaten the hardest optional monster in the game... and then fought Raspatil when I was going for the Bestiary Fragment. Yeah, that was a wake-up call for sure...
 
You're not really supporting the devs as you are more supporting more poor DLC transactions. Though I guess that can be debatable.

If paying a little bit more money keeps companies healthy and in business then it can only be a good thing. DLC reduces the risk of spending millions developing a game so I'm happy to support it when I like the content.

Hope Japan gets the Sazh DLC early. Want a review on that before deciding to get it. I probably wont.

Yeah bit more dubious about this one. Best case for me is the '2nd' card game is something like triple triad, and Sazh has quests to fight some new bosses to get some rare cards.... but probably not ;)
 

one85x

Member
For the love of Etros, what should I do with the
Guy who can't remember his name in Yascha Maschif 110AF? Yes, I've talked to the girl who ended up in Hope/Alyssa's tent in Yascha Maschif 100AF but she doesn't give me any kind of name or any object like some people said she will. I've done 5/6 fragments in YM 110AF so I don't know what else I could have missed apart from this guy who lost his memory.

Halp please!
He's actually a part of a quest that begins in Bresha Ruins 100AF.
 
The final boss fight is fucking bullshit.
Just when I have him at around 25% or so, he pulls this move called Dying Sun out of nowhere, and wipes my entire group. That's about 30+ minutes down the drain.

Is there a good place I can grind for some CP and Gil?

Others have already told you how to deal with the Dying Sun attack, and it's also true that just collecting more Fragments will help you grind naturally.

But if you're still looking for a good place specifically to grind for CP and Gil, here's my favorite strategy:

At the Yaschas Massif -01X AF-, there's a behemoth-type enemy (can't remember its name, but it's white/silverish and the only one of that kind of enemy on that map) that is easy to kill for even an end-story party (no post-game grinding needed), and gives up around 2000 CP (4000 if you have the "Rolling in CP" Fragment Skill on) and 6600 gil per battle with two Durable Collector's Catalogs equipped. Having the Battlemania and Encounter Master Fragment Skills helps, since you'll be able to spawn monsters more quickly and encounter that particular monster more often. But yeah, I found this strategy to be much quicker and more reliable than farming Collector's Catalogs at the Chocobo races or farming some of the tougher monsters like Yomi, and you get lots of CP as well as gil. Two birds with one stone.

A quick search online will tell you how to get those Fragment Skills and Durable Collector's Catalogs, but it isn't difficult... just fairly time-consuming. Honestly, once you're done doing all that, you'll be more than strong enough to take on the final boss without much trouble anyway... but at least you'll be well-prepared for the post game!
 
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