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PS Vita western launch thread, p. 2 | Simply the most desirable handheld yet released

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sfedai0

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Fuck, I bought the Sony screen protectors and after reading the last couple pages, finally decided to put them on.....and fucked up on both of them. This must be a sign that I should go naked.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Mine doesn't last 20 minutes. Anecdotal evidence and all that.
Interesting indeed.

I actually own three PSPs and all three of them function well. My US launch unit has the worst battery life, but still lasts a reasonable amount of time. I bought a white Japanese unit 6 months later as well and then, finally, a PSP300 after that was released.

I did buy a larger battery for my original PSP at one point and found that it went to shit after just a year of usage so I returned to the launch battery.
 

Ken

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I don't really think it is. How much will a replacement screen be down the line anyway? $30? $50? And you'd have to really go out of your way to really scratch it that badly. (Notice that it's way cheaper than the ridiculous warranty they sell you and you probably won't even need to go that far)

This obsession with protecting a $250 piece of hardware that will rapidly decline in value, I just don't understand. The protectors and cases in the long run are more expensive that the expected cost of repairs or replacements, I'm almost positive on that one.
Spending an hour looking at cases and screen protectors and paying less than $30 for both is hardly an obsession.
 

injurai

Banned
Scratching the back bothers me too though. And I would be concerned about the Vita resting on the analog sticks when the pouch is laying down.

I wouldn't want to take the chance of laying it face down, but they seem pretty durable from my first impressions. We need someone to sacrifice their vita for the sake of science. Nose goes *touches nose*
 

GQman2121

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I haven't seen any photos of the VIP case out in the wild. Mine was scheduled to ship from Amazon yesterday, but didn't. They're still telling me that it will arrive between March 2-6, so I'm hopeful, but I would like to see more photos from people who actually own and are using it.
 

Alchemy

Member
I wouldn't want to take the chance of laying it face down, but they seem pretty durable from my first impressions. We need someone to sacrifice their vita for the sake of science. Nose goes *touches nose*

I don't think there is really a way to avoid a case resting on the analog sticks (on its side) unless its a hard case. Soft materials will always lend themselves to some pressure being put on the sticks and the rest of the device. Best to keep those sucker upright.
 
Mine doesn't last 20 minutes. Anecdotal evidence and all that.

That could just means you didn't use it right which doesn't mean the batteries are supposed to die after 2 years.

Don't stop charging until it's fully charged.
Don't have the charger on for a long time after it's fully charged.
Don't leave the battery without any charge for a long time.
Don't start charging unless it's nearly depleted.



If you did all that then it's possible you just got a defective battery.
 

kuroshiki

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I don't really think it is. How much will a replacement screen be down the line anyway? $30? $50? And you'd have to really go out of your way to really scratch it that badly. (Notice that it's way cheaper than the ridiculous warranty they sell you and you probably won't even need to go that far)

This obsession with protecting a $250 piece of hardware that will rapidly decline in value, I just don't understand. The protectors and cases in the long run are more expensive that the expected cost of repairs or replacements, I'm almost positive on that one.

Hmm. Screen protector (full front screen) was 7 dollars, and I just ordered PS VITA hori face cover (backordered -_-) for $13. total $20 for $250 device and piece of mind so I can carry it anywhere.

sounds worth it to me. let's face it. The $500 android phone you purchased today? probably ended up $150 after less than 2 years.
 

kuroshiki

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That could just means you didn't use it right which doesn't mean the batteries are supposed to die after 2 years.

Don't stop charging until it's fully charged.
Don't have the charger on for a long time after it's fully charged.
Don't leave the battery without any charge for a long time.
Don't start charging unless it's nearly depleted.



If you did all that then it's possible you just got a defective battery.

No. That's not true at all with lithium ion battery. I agree with everything else, however.
 

aknbad30

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Anyone get the PlayStation Vita Travel Pouch? Thoughts?

I have one. Its nice and protects the system well but my main issue is that it does not hold the games securely. There are 4 little fleece pouches that do not grip the carts. If you take the Vita out make sure to zip the case or games could fall out.
 

Shadybiz

Member
I was in the "no screen protector" camp for a bit, but then I discovered that I have a nasty habit of occasionally swiping with my fingernail as opposed to the actual bottom of the finger. If I scratched my Vita screen because of something dumb like that, I'd cry, so now I have the Sony protectors being shipped to me.
 

KillGore

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Here's some color images to test for dead/stuck pixels. These were originally used for my PSP, resized for the Vita. I have no idea if these cover the full spectrum of colors for OLED vs. LCD, or if that sentence even makes sense.

Not sure if I want to test it...I still haven't noticed dead pixels which is great but if I do find one, I know I'll forever look at it...
 

TriniTrin

war of titties grampa
one thing i learned just now. I am very bad at marvel vs capcom lol

don't forget when online to disable touch controls. I noticed i had that enabled and was getting owned by everyone like they were pros! Now at least i know im not getting beat by a touch screener!

I still suck lol, but i can at least win a couple hahaha
 
I seem to be the only person on GAF who dislikes it.

It's too big for me. I don't even have room for it in my handbag. It's not as padded as I would like. And the game cart holder thing is useless if your pouch flips over.

My biggest problem with it though is that it only opens half way. So putting your Vita in or taking it out, you have to be extra careful that it doesn't scrape against the zipper. Every time I use that pouch, I am really nervous I'll scratch something.

According to a review and comments on Amazon the zippers can be flipped back and out of the way. Is that not true?
 
I was in the "no screen protector" camp for a bit, but then I discovered that I have a nasty habit of occasionally swiping with my fingernail as opposed to the actual bottom of the finger. If I scratched my Vita screen because of something dumb like that, I'd cry, so now I have the Sony protectors being shipped to me.
I can't be sure about this since I don't know what the Vita screen is made out of but I'd be willing to bet real money that it can't be scratched by a fingernail.

It's all about Moh's scale of mineral hardness. The idea is that every material has a hardness rating and a material can only be scratched by something with a higher rating. The scale goes from 1-10 and a fingernail is only a 2.2-2.5. Glass is around 5.5 or so. I'd guess the Vita screen is in the 4-6 range but that's just conjecture on my part.

According to Wikipedia Gorilla Glass has a rating of 9. Impressive stuff.
 

kuroshiki

Member
I can't be sure about this since I don't know what the Vita screen is made out of but I'd be willing to bet real money that it can't be scratched by a fingernail.

It's all about Moh's scale of mineral hardness. The idea is that every material has a hardness rating and a material can only be scratched by something with a higher rating. The scale goes from 1-10 and a fingernail is only a 2.2-2.5. Glass is around 5.5 or so.

Vita doesn't have glass around its screen.
 
That could just means you didn't use it right which doesn't mean the batteries are supposed to die after 2 years.

Don't stop charging until it's fully charged.
Don't have the charger on for a long time after it's fully charged.
Don't leave the battery without any charge for a long time.
Don't start charging unless it's nearly depleted.



If you did all that then it's possible you just got a defective battery.

Defective? The battery is 6 years old and way, way past 1000 cycles. I played over 1000 hours on Monster Hunter alone, not counting all the other games. If anything I'd say it lasted way more than it should. Though I haven't played in a couple of years, so it lasted about 4-5 years. Still way more than the advertised duration though.
 

Binabik15

Member
Is the soft case worth the 25€ Amazon wants for the Starter Kit? I loooved the PSP one for my 2000. I have a spare PSP soft case, but the Vita is a lil fatty and doesn't fit.

The PSP one saved my 2000 from several light falls and never even tried to scratch the scree <3
 

madmook

Member
Haven't noticed anyone with Best Buy's Rocketfish Vault case ( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...Vita/4611274.p?id=1218509141707&skuId=4611274 ), and their own website has no pictures of the thing, so here are some pics:

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I don't have any other Vita cases. I wanted a hardcase, and Amazon has no stock of the Hori hardcase, so I got this one. It is massive, and I wish it could've been more compact, but seeing as how the Vita itself isn't pocketable in the first place, I can deal with it. Was also very interested in the Thrustmaster VIP hardcase (not yet available here in the states), but then found out that it only clamps shut, and there's no latch, which I would prefer. The rocketfish case has a latch. Wish Logitech would make a Playgear Pocket case for Vita.
 
A protector is just $7-10 here, and depending on how you plan to carry the PS Vita around you'd be a complete fucking idiot for not getting a case. I'll likely be throwing it into bags in the long run, likely with other stuff that could easily crush it, so a good sturdy case (hell, just PADDING) will be essential. Admittedly for the screen protector I'd think if you failed to put it on, twice at least, it'd be better to just not bother, and as long as I have a case I'm not going to sweat the back touchpad too much.

The price of the protector is not really the main point. You're essentially putting on a layer of film on top of your screen that can negatively affect IQ for the rest of the life of said screen (assuming you keep a protector on forever) just for the chance to protect against some scratches. Also every scratch will cost you $7-$10 and a protector scratches A LOT easier than the screen.

$20 bucks is 8% of the total cost of the unit. Which you have to pay NOW in order to protect it from a potential threat. As far as insurance goes it's pretty damn expensive. Don't even get me started on extra warranties. Biggest rip off ever. Pay $60 to protect your $250 device for the next 3 years. Oh yeah in 3 years it's gonna be worth less than that but it doesn't matter, pay it anyways.
 

frequency

Member
According to a review and comments on Amazon the zippers can be flipped back and out of the way. Is that not true?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "flipped back". It's a soft pouch so you can like hold them back I guess? Either way, it's more trouble than I want to deal with for long term. I'll find some other pouch to use soon.
I think it is a poorly designed pouch. But I seem the be the only one on GAF, so I'm probably wrong.
 

mauaus

Member
Just got to chapter 25/34 on Uncharted:GA and i must say im impressed, the game has descent length and it keeps itself at a nice pace. :D Loving every second of it.
 
The price of the protector is not really the main point. You're essentially putting on a layer of film on top of your screen that can negatively affect IQ for the rest of the life of said screen (assuming you keep a protector on forever) just for the chance to protect against some scratches. Also every scratch will cost you $7-$10 and a protector scratches A LOT easier than the screen.

$20 bucks is 8% of the total cost of the unit. Which you have to pay NOW in order to protect it from a potential threat. As far as insurance goes it's pretty damn expensive. Don't even get me started on extra warranties. Biggest rip off ever. Pay $60 to protect your $250 device for the next 3 years. Oh yeah in 3 years it's gonna be worth less than that but it doesn't matter, pay it anyways.

So scratches on the screen don't affect IQ either? What.
 

RoylAsult

Member
don't forget when online to disable touch controls. I noticed i had that enabled and was getting owned by everyone like they were pros! Now at least i know im not getting beat by a touch screener!

I still suck lol, but i can at least win a couple hahaha

thank you for the advice lol

maybe i wont get completely killed now

i like the game but not as much as i thought i would, wonder if anyone here would want to trade for F1 lol
 

VanWinkle

Member
What is this? So, according to some Gaffers I should check an optometrist if I believe that My Galaxy Note screen outclasses Vita's?

I don't think anybody has said that. I said that the Vita's screen is actually a better version of OLED (SAMOLED+ vs SAMOLED), but with the Note's resolution being so beastly, it wouldn't surprise me at all if that Note's screen looked better. I haven't seen it in person, so I couldn't judge it.
 
Thanks for the info, and I am definitely inclined to agree with you! Alas, my paranoia is the stuff of legends :)
Better safe than sorry, man. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to put a screen protector on your brand new electronic device, I'm just generally too cheap and lazy to worry about it. I haven't been burned too badly in the past because of this attitude so I guess I'll take my chances until I get a reason not to.

And now that I've said this I'm kind of paranoid.
 
Don't have the charger on for a long time after it's fully charged.


Is that true? I mean, is it bad that if I want to use it plugged to AC most of the time in order to, funny enough, preserve my battery?

I did it with my PSP and after a good while it seems to be okay. I just want to make sure because I still think that it's better to keep it plugged than use the battery, but who knows.
 

Fredrik

Member
So... I bought the Vita on sunday, and got my memory card today... and has been playing Uncharted for the first time today until the battery died just now.
And I'm very very very impressed! If Uncharted is a sign of what Vita is all about then we'll soon have a new king in portable gaming at least as far as I'm concerned. The Last Of Us PS Vita version, please? And I can't wait to see what SquareEnix might make for this amazing handheld. I want a Vita Final Fantasy.
 
Still no shipping notification from lockerz for my 32 gb card. Supposedly it will ship later "mid week" hopefully I will see a shipping notification tomorrow or Thursday at the latest.
 

MrMephistoX

Member
Long-time Vita launch thread reader, first-time poster. Bought one with Rayman, downloaded SSD and Trails in the Sky (PSP). Never really been a handheld player, but I'm having a kid soon, so this is the only way I'll really get to do any gaming for at least a few months.

Oh, and outside of the browser, it's awesome. If Vita fails, it's because humanity fails. Screen is great, controls are great, lineup is great, battery is perfectly fine.


Small world dude: I bought a Vita for precisely the same reason. Add me if you feel like multiplayer in the delivery room ;) 7 more months to go for me!

PSN ID: MrMephistoX
 
So, I'm really hoping SE announces a PSP-PSN or Vita version of Type-0 at E3. I wonder if an "International" Vita version would be something that could help get some enthusiasm for the platform over in Japan. Run it at native Vita resolution and give it some Vita-specific features like Near integration and touch controls.
 

Chorazin

Member
I'm kinda impressed with the battery! Having 3G on all day to collect near location data at work hasn't impacted the battery at all. Still showing full bar with the Vita off the charger for 8 hours now, 40 minutes of Hot Shots Golf and a few minutes of checking near data and the Friends list.
 

Alchemy

Member
I'm kinda impressed with the battery! Having 3G on all day to collect near location data at work hasn't impacted the battery at all. Still showing full bar with the Vita off the charger for 8 hours now, 40 minutes of Hot Shots Golf and a few minutes of checking near data and the Friends list.

Near uses the GPS so it shouldn't do much to your battery, 3G web surfing is what kills batteries.
 

Eusis

Member
The price of the protector is not really the main point. You're essentially putting on a layer of film on top of your screen that can negatively affect IQ for the rest of the life of said screen (assuming you keep a protector on forever) just for the chance to protect against some scratches. Also every scratch will cost you $7-$10 and a protector scratches A LOT easier than the screen.
I would have to assume most would be sensible and only replace screen protectors when the scratches really get to them rather than every time a single scratch appears, nevermind that I haven't noticed any IQ drop with the Hori protector on. And while I'm not as concerned about it for the Vita, it really DID get to me in the end for my PSP 2000, even if the screen going bad was more damning than the scratches by far. Admittedly I was also seriously using the 2000 as an MP3 player, whereas now I have an iPod Touch that'll fill that role while the Vita stays a game device (and maybe backup internet browser if they upgrade that enough).

$20 bucks is 8% of the total cost of the unit. Which you have to pay NOW in order to protect it from a potential threat. As far as insurance goes it's pretty damn expensive. Don't even get me started on extra warranties. Biggest rip off ever. Pay $60 to protect your $250 device for the next 3 years. Oh yeah in 3 years it's gonna be worth less than that but it doesn't matter, pay it anyways.
Is this still about the screen protectors, or are cases covered too? Because like said, no it's fucking idiotic to leave a system unprotected depending on what you're throwing in with it, obviously it's more than safe with clothes or stuff like that, but other electronics, books, etc are likely enough of a real threat. That, and it'd still be cheaper than outright replacing if PSP prices are anything to go by, and I kind of wonder if they CAN improve the next version as much as they did the 2000 over the 1000.
 
Quick question about sleep mode and battery consumption. So the other day when I was about to go to bed I closed all of the apps that my Vita had open and pushed the power button to put the system to sleep. The battery was fully charged. The next morning when I went to turn it on it was completely dead, and I mean COMPLETELY dead, as in it wouldn't even turn on when it was plugged in. Eventually I got a flashing no battery symbol to pop up and a few minutes later it turned on.

I have to be doing something wrong here, right? Sleep mode doesn't drain the battery that badly does it?
 
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