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Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto

antonz

Member
Has he said something recently?
I must have missed this bit, what did he say?

Basically that the Tablet Controller changes things up too much so if he ever decided to develop for the Wii U it would need to be a unique game because you know having all those buttons like the other controllers are suddenly rendered useless because a touch screen exists too.
 
Saw this. Thought of this thread.

1egfo5.png

Perfect.

Now, where's Johnny Nighttrain?
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Never heard of Nintendo gamer before, neither I recall any leaks/exclusive preview stuff coming out of magazines other than Famitsu or Edge or Game Informer perhaps.
Not saying this is fake, yet it seems a little strange that this magazine has laid its hands on Darksiders 2 for WiiU whereas other major magazines are apparently without a clue.

So, in case this magazine actually exists, is that number already out orisit just being announced?
If it's already out, of course I'm waiting a report from those who can read it.

Nintendo Gamer is a new magazine, which is on sale in the UK.
Well, sort of, it used to be known as NGamer magazine.
It's been Nintendo Gamer for at least three issues now.
Most of the magazine articles eventually get reposted on www.nintendo-gamer.net
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
If there is a secret to the U Tab, it won't be a 3D screen, I can tell you that.

Yeah it's logic, but i keep seeing some people expecting that, and for the moment, in the DRC used by third-parties in conjunction with v4 dev kits, there's no such things. And no ultra secret additional mind-blowing feature on the padlet, otherwise my sources would have surely told me about them. Now there's still the possibility that Nintendo didn't reveal all to third-parties, but it would be weird that huge functions are hidden this late in development to foreign studios, preventing them to integrate these from the start, from the initial stages of the title design.
 
There's really nothing they can add to the controller.
I mean, it has everything, even NFC.
Secrets will come in the form of the online infrastructure on the system.
 

Maxrunner

Member
"Wii U is kind of a special case," Kojima said via translator at a press Q&A last week. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Compare this to what Crystal Dynamics said:"If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."

In other words, they don't want to work on Wii U.

Yep, Kojima on Nintendo platforms always sucks...not a big loss if you ask me....i only really like the first MGS on psx...
 
"Wii U is kind of a special case," Kojima said via translator at a press Q&A last week. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Compare this to what Crystal Dynamics said:"If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."

In other words, they don't want to work on Wii U.

Yeah, we're going to see a lot of those excuses.
 
R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
I just realized we are nearing April Fools' Day. As if this radio silence isn't enough, what will this thread look like come 1st of April? I of course expect very few people except for hardcore investors and similar to fall for anything that day when it comes to Wii U news. But since we know so little about the system, even with information provided by IdeaMan, lherre and others, the ball park is huge for anyone that intends to cause some confusion and delay. It doesn't even have to be something as bogus as Shenmue III by Retro Studios for someone to start tearing their pants off, something as simple as Wii U featuring OpenVG support could be enough for intense debate and inevitable disappointment.
 
"Wii U is kind of a special case," Kojima said via translator at a press Q&A last week. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Compare this to what Crystal Dynamics said:"If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."

In other words, they don't want to work on Wii U.

Yeah, kind of what everyone said about the Wii:
"Of course we are interested in making games for Wii, it is a great console with a big potential"
"If we should make a game for Wii it should take advantage of Wii's unique controls"

We all know how it ended, so I agree with you, this sounds rather ambiguous and doesn't bode well for WiiU.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
There's really nothing they can add to the controller.
I mean, it has everything, even NFC.
Secrets will come in the form of the online infrastructure on the system.

Maybe some kind of integrated vitality sensor on the usual area where fingers will be putted on the padlet back ? And it's a small enough feature to warn third-parties rather late, they could integrate it quickly in their projects before the launch. But i've not heard about that either.
 
Rösti;36182824 said:
I just realized we are nearing April Fools' Day. As if this radio silence isn't enough, what will this thread look like come 1st of April? I of course expect very few people except for hardcore investors and similar to fall for anything that day when it comes to Wii U news. But since we know so little about the system, even with information provided by IdeaMan, lherre and others, the ball park is huge for anyone that intends to cause some confusion and delay. It doesn't even have to be something as bogus as Shenmue III by Retro Studios for someone to start tearing their pants off, something as simple as Wii U featuring OpenVG support could be enough for intense debate and inevitable disappointment.

Gaf makes an event of April 1st "news" actually.
We have a dedicated thread for it all.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Rösti;36182824 said:
I just realized we are nearing April Fools' Day. As if this radio silence isn't enough, what will this thread look like come 1st of April? I of course expect very few people except for hardcore investors and similar to fall for anything that day when it comes to Wii U news. But since we know so little about the system, even with information provided by IdeaMan, lherre and others, the ball park is huge for anyone that intends to cause some confusion and delay. It doesn't even have to be something as bogus as Shenmue III by Retro Studios for someone to start tearing their pants off, something as simple as Wii U featuring OpenVG support could be enough for intense debate and inevitable disappointment.

Just treat everything with healthy skepticism, and all will be well. It's a good rule in general, and not just around April Fools'.
 
R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
Gaf makes an event of April 1st "news" actually.
We have a dedicated thread for it all.
That's good news for the sanity of this thread, though there is of course a chance of it being infected by the coming Hee Haw stories. But no need for concern then I guess.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Perfect. By the way, do you mods really consider these threads a nuisance?

I don't. If anything it keeps discussion in one place and prevents it from shitting up other threads.
 
TEV is gonna be emulated by AMD, guys. They hold all the documentation for it, and Dolphin already runs on old pixel shader 2 cards, and even the lowest rumored card for the WiiU, those based on R700 are way more advanced than that.

No need to saddle their card with some old circuitry that will barely be used.

Don't worry. First we're speaking hypothetically, and second there wouldn't be any old circuitry involved.

I think the TEVs (an evolved form) would replace the TMUs. I mean, TEVs are TMUs on crack.

Since we're designing Flipper 2.0 is this how it would look to you? Certain fixed functions or maybe they are programmable, just either way silicon/transistors are dedicated to them, 400 ALUs, 16-24 TEV 2.0 units, and maybe 16-24 ROPs? Do you think they would go with an equal amount of TEVs and ROPs for something like this?
 

Nibel

Member
Mhm.. Kojima Productions wanted to release Rising on 360, PS3 and - surprisingly - on the PC.

Fox Engine is multiplatform.

Snake Eater 3DS proves that Konami wants to reach the Nintendo audience with MGS.

Thinking about it and saying the opposite a few pages ago - I think sooner or later we can see some port from a KP game.
 

antonz

Member
MGS Revengenace. In 2013...

I wouldn't be surprised to see one of his games hit Wii U, but I definitely would be surprised if he had anything to do with it. How much was he involved with Snake Eater 3D ?

I think his involvement was with the visually sexy demo and that was it which then turned into a less sexy visual game
 
Mhm.. Kojima Productions wanted to release Rising on 360, PS3 and - surprisingly - on the PC.

Fox Engine is multiplatform.

Snake Eater 3DS proves that Konami wants to reach the Nintendo audience with MGS.

Thinking about it and saying the opposite a few pages ago - I think sooner or later we can see some port from a KP game.

Sure, if you're OK with it being a 3 year late cash-in with inferior controls :/

Would prefer devs just say what they mean instead of spewing a bunch of disingenuous bull. Would save us a lot of time getting our hopes up.
 

GameE

Member
Nintendo Gamer is a pile of steaming shit sadly. They are the website that has been rehashing E3 2011 interviews claiming they are new etc

FINALLY someone says what I've been saying like the last month. They're just causing problems >_>
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Maybe some kind of integrated vitality sensor on the usual area where fingers will be putted on the padlet back ? And it's a small enough feature to warn third-parties rather late, they could integrate it quickly in their projects before the launch. But i've not heard about that either.

I'm starting to like you IdeaMan.
 

Game-Biz

Member
Yeah, we're going to see a lot of those excuses.

Yeah, ouch...These were the EXACT kind of quotes we were getting the in the early days of the Wii.

Whatever. Publisher's at this point in time have the right to be be skeptical and cautious, I suppose.

Edit: Also, I'm not in this thread that often, so excuse my ignorance. But, this IdeaMan guy I'm guessing is reliable when it comes to inside info? He's been right before? he can be trusted? Sorry, still recovering from the flurry of rumors from the Nintendo Revolution days and mysterious forum users with sources from the "inside.":p
 

fernoca

Member
Saw this. Thought of this thread.

http://www.abload.de/img/1egfo5.png
Hahaha.. the reactions are quite similar to most posts too. XD

Snake Eater 3DS proves that Konami wants to reach the Nintendo audience with MGS.
Well, 'The Twin Snakes' was more "proof" than that , and after that game they released 1 game for the PS3, 4 games for the PSP, started working on Rising for 360 and PS3; along HD Collections of Metal Gear and Zone of the Enders.
Nothing on Wii, DS and the game since then on a Nintendo platform, was a port... :p
 
Yeah it's logic, but i keep seeing some people expecting that, and for the moment, in the DRC used by third-parties in conjunction with v4 dev kits, there's no such things. And no ultra secret additional mind-blowing feature on the padlet, otherwise my sources would have surely told me about them. Now there's still the possibility that Nintendo didn't reveal all to third-parties, but it would be weird that huge functions are hidden this late in development to foreign studios, preventing them to integrate these from the start, from the initial stages of the title design.

I doubt there'd be anything truly mind-blowing, but that wouldn't be unprecedented for Nintendo; I recall hearing that the 3DS dev kits didn't have 3D enabled until after (or shortly before) they officially announced the system with the 3D feature in March 2010, and that the Wiimote speaker wasn't enabled until just before E3 2006.
 

onilink88

Member
Why would they? It keeps the crazies to one thread.
If we were a problem, we'd be shut down already.

Good point. Tell me something, though: wasn't this Nintex guy a fellow, er, "enthusiast"? I remember him being a regular in the previous speculation threads. What crawled up his ass? Or is he just fucking with you guys?

I don't. If anything it keeps discussion in one place and prevents it from shitting up other threads.

Heh, so these threads are basically quarantines...

Weird. How is that possible when DoA:D isn't on the Famitsu Top 100 for 2011, and sold less than 20K in May NPD 2011.

Numbers could be for shipped units, but I didn't see any mention of that. *shrugs*
 
Good point. Tell me something, though: wasn't this Nintex guy a fellow, er, "enthusiast"? I remember him being a regular in the previous speculation threads. What crawled up his ass? Or is he just fucking with you guys?



Heh, so these threads are basically quarantines...



Numbers could be for shipped units, but I didn't see any mention of that. *shrugs*

He had a meltdown in the thread, got banned, and continued the meltdown, it seems.
 

Luigison

Member
There's really nothing they can add to the controller.
I mean, it has everything, even NFC.
Secrets will come in the form of the online infrastructure on the system.

They could add a camera or sensor bar on the back to interact with the Wii U, Wii U's sensor bar, or a second controller and add depth, windowed views, or head/controller tracking.

They could add vitality sensing or touch sensitive input/sensors on the back to add immersive gameplay, heart rate monitoring, touch control, etc.

They could add eye/face tracking to see where the player (via the controller) and/or casual viewers (via the console/"sensor" camera) are looking.

They could add function without the console for download only or low CPU use games like casual games or functions for browsing while at McDonald's.

They could add wireless connectivity to other controllers/accessories.

They could change the screen to 3D like the 3DS or a pseudo 3D view while using a TV.


While not adding anything new they could explain:

The use of tilt sensing.

The magnetic sensing.

Third party software like Skype, TV, Internet, etc.


I doubt most of or even any of this will happen, but this is the speculation thread.
 
"Wii U is kind of a special case," Kojima said via translator at a press Q&A last week. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Compare this to what Crystal Dynamics said:"If we started building a game for the Wii U we would build it very differently and we would build it with unique functionality."

In other words, they don't want to work on Wii U.

Very lame on both their parts but not surprising (especially Kojima, Sony would have to go under for him to make anything for another company's home console). Hopefully this won't be widespread and more third parties will realize they can just treat it like stylus support as they do on DS if they have to.
 
But that doesn't fit as well :'(

totally makes more sense though...

Oh that was a "fix" in the current sense of things.

He had a meltdown in the thread, got banned, and continued the meltdown, it seems.

I must have missed it. All I know was that he was gone.

I doubt there'd be anything truly mind-blowing, but that wouldn't be unprecedented for Nintendo; I recall hearing that the 3DS dev kits didn't have 3D enabled until after (or shortly before) they officially announced the system with the 3D feature in March 2010, and that the Wiimote speaker wasn't enabled until just before E3 2006.

I think the Wiimote speaker wasn't fixed till near launch actually.
 
Ideaman is DrinkyCrow




And this thread should contain everything but shit gets out man.... I also think this thread is relatively tame and not as aggressive as other threads on tech can get.

I do though think Rosti should get a Sherlock Holmes of GAF tag.
And ideaman really should.give up the jig ;-)

You bunch of filthy liberals
 

Effect

Member
Snake Eater 3DS proves that Konami wants to reach the Nintendo audience with MGS.

I can't tell if you are being serious or using a lot of sarcasm.

If they do I think that's limited to just having another group of people to sell multiplatform games to and that's mainly Dance Revolution. I don't think Konami in regards to MGS gives a damn about Nintendo audiences. The limited effort that was likely put toward Snake Eater 3D, the undercutting of Snake Eater 3D by announcing the HD collection, and the lack of advertising and push for Snake Eater 3D as well shows that.

In the end I fully expect there to be plenty of excuses from 3rd parties for why developers aren't putting games on the Wii U.
 
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