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[BY2K]

Umm, all games look like crap when capped of off shitty vids. ALL.

Besides, it's probably taken off of Alpha version. The game is far from being done.

The enemies don't even have ragdolls.

I like the follow-up where he says.. I believe its probably the Wii U version photoshopped with PS3 buttons..

Link, now.

Spoiler

Somebody post an image of Link, I cut him.

 

[fernoca]

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but if you try searching the thread nothing from this month shows up.
I tried MMO and lucasarts.

Yep. Search has been like that lately.

My "people don't read threads" wasn't targeted at you by the way; but more of an addition to that "people don't check threads" post.

 

[golcarfel]

Hey guys not sure if anyone posted this already but here ya go,
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/photo/34681.wss.

 

[specialguy]

I like the follow-up where he says.. I believe its probably the Wii U version photoshopped with PS3 buttons..

You gotta admit that's funny trolling.

 

[BY2K]

Hey guys not sure if anyone posted this already but here ya go,
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/photo/34681.wss.

What is this telling us, exactly?

Memory will be accessed faster?

 

[specialguy]

Hey guys not sure if anyone posted this already but here ya go,
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/photo/34681.wss.

The new memory technology, a key element of the new Power microprocessor that IBM is building for the Nintendo Wii U console, can triple the amount of memory contained on a single chip, making for extreme game play.

Tak Fujii Wii U exclusive confirmed?

Guys, that sounds pretty extreme. That new technology allows for Extreme Game Play. Wow.

 

[BY2K]

Tak Fujii Wii U exclusive confirmed?

Guys, that sounds pretty extreme. That new technology allows for Extreme Game Play. Wow.

I'm sucked already.

 

[bgassassin]

Umm, all games look like crap when capped of off shitty vids. ALL.

And the OP E3 counter (main use of this thread for me LOL) is under 60 days! 59+ days and counting.

And isn't MS PC always the day before? So you could knock another day off...unless you're actually counting to the Nintendo conference...

Since we didn't have an official time, I made it based on E3's opening date. I still remember making it with like 170 days to go and BY2K was like "WTF man?" Good times.

 

[lednerg]

Search is broken pretty bad. So reposts happen. No biggy.

Search and looking through users' posts are both broken. At least Google works like a champ for Gaf. It's why I keep it at 50posts/page.

 

[GameplayWhore]

What is this telling us, exactly?

Memory will be accessed faster?

It's the old, old press release from last year's E3 where IBM said that the Wii U uses a cpu based on Power Architecture. (edit: or maybe I'm not recognizing that was the joke; hey, I'm being lulled to sleep by a Gabe Newell interview here&#8230

 

[Penguin]

Besides, it's probably taken off of Alpha version. The game is far from being done.

The enemies don't even have ragdolls.



Link, now.

Spoiler

Somebody post an image of Link, I cut him.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36718387&postcount=463

Best thing we can assume is its Wii U version with photoshoped PS3 buttons because it looks pretty bad.

 

[bgassassin]

I'm sucked already.

Wii U capable of one milrion troops on screen at one time confirmed.

And why do I not remember that IBM tidbit?

 

[fernoca]

Here are four links, come and cut me!!

 

[AceBandage]

Wii U capable of one milrion troops on screen at one time confirmed.

And why do I not remember that IBM tidbit?

Well it seems to be a rewording of the official PR. Though the being custom made for Wii U is interesting.

 

[bgassassin]

Well it seems to be a rewording of the official PR. Though the being custom made for Wii U is interesting.

Now I see why I don't remember it. I never scrolled far enough in the original PR to see the link.

 

[BY2K]

Here are four links, come and cut me!!

Best thing we can assume is its Wii U version with photoshoped PS3 buttons because it looks pretty bad.

smfh

 

[HylianTom]

Link, now.

Spoiler

Somebody post an image of Link, I cut him.

Damn. You know us too well.

smfh

Oh yes.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Just wanted to get back to Li Mu Bai's B3D post* about Nintendo using some proprietary fixed function units in addition to the standard shaders. Mind you, I might be getting the terminology wrong, as I'm not a GPU guru or anything (I only deal with software rendering). Anyway, I do at least like to pretend I can understand the logic of going this route.

When Rogue Squadron came out, lots of us were mystified as to how Factor 5 could get so much graphical fidelity out of the purple lunchbox. The title had effects like self-shadowing and bump mapping applied to just about everything, yet the Gamecube managed not to ignite. The explanation we got back then was that Factor 5 was performing some sort of assembly code magic, creating something out of nothing. Yeah, well... not really. The Gamecube had those effects built-in, it's just that Factor 5 were competent enough to read the effing manual, as it were.

If Gamecube had Xbox-style programmable shader units in place of these built-in effects, it would have been able to achieve the same results. While that's true, they would have run much much slower. The big trade-off for the flexibility of a do-anything programmable shader is efficiency. Seeing as how comparatively slow the Flipper ran, this was a big deal. The important thing was finding the most useful, common effects to build into the silicon in lieu of the more flexible but slower alternative.

Li Mu Bai's post talks about lighting as being the most likely focus of these units in the Wii U. If that's true, then it would be kind of a major thing to overlook when porting your game to the Wii U. As lighting is a huge part of what a GPU is calculating, you would be making it jump through hoops it doesn't actually need to, slowing down everything else in the process.

That brings us to the past few weeks, and the 'leaks' from disgruntled anonymous developers about the Wii U. They're complaining about how it doesn't have enough shaders, so its graphics aren't powerful [sic]. You can see why some of us are more than a little skeptical about comments like that. If it doesn't have enough shaders, then it has something else in their place. Try using it.

* - the link he posted after the four quoted paragraphs should point here instead.

I may be wrong, but I do remember reading some articles suggesting that Flipper could maintain 15 million polygons textured and lit(dynamically).

 

[Gahiggidy]

So it is possible that anything that isn't Star Wars could be this? You know, like a Monkey Island or Sam & Max MMO?

*looks*

Oh, shit, like 90% of what they release nowadays is Star Wars. I didn't realize it was quite that dominating!

"Loom" MMO. Believe it!

 

[ColdBlooder]

My E3 predictions:

Best case scenario:

- More swagger Reggie returns!
- WiiU 1st and 2nd party games loook GOREGOUS
- Most of the 3rd party games look better then their xbox 360/ps3 counterpart
- Pikmin 3 announced as launch title. Looks goregous and is playable
- New 3D Mario coming 2013, playable on the show. Looks and plays great
- Retros new Zelda game is shown, it looks great, plays great. Darker theme anyone expected. Playable on the showfloor. But coming Fall 2013 earliest.
- Smash Bros U teaser (CG, no ingame material)
- Gamecube VC announced
- 2 SKUs -> One comes with just the Upad and one pack in game. The second one includes Wiimote+ and Nunchuck in the box and a 25 bucks eshop card. or a download code for a GC VC title.
- Price: 249/299
- Lots of 3rd party games on the System.
- Nin looks very promising, a service like on PS360 with more focus on social/community features.
- Mind blowing "But before you leave...." game at the end of the conference


Most likely scenario:

- WiiU 1st and 2nd party games look GOREGOUS
- Most of the 3rd party games look exactly or a little worse like their xbox 360/ps3 counterpart
- Pikmin 3 announced as launch title. Looks goregous and is playable
- New 3D Mario coming 2013, its only announced with some screens.
- Retros new game is nothing we expected, it looks great, plays great. Playable on the showfloor.
- 1 SKU -> comes with the Upad and a pack in game only
- Price: 299
- 3rd party support on the System is "decent" but their still missing some important ones.
- Nin looks promising, a service like on PS360 Not as feature rich as on PS360 but still way better then anything they have now
- NO Mind blowing "But before you leave...." game at the end of the conference


Worst case scenario:

- Cammie instead of Reggie
- WiiU 1st and 2nd party games look OK but are barely able to distinguish themselves from PS360.
- Most of the 3rd party games look worse like their xbox 360/ps3 counterpart
- No Pikmin 3. Uggies Dog trainorz 2012 announced instead. Launch title...
- Uggie on stage.......
- No new Mario
- Retros new game is nothing we expected, looks meh, gameplay not that great.
- 1 SKU -> comes with the Upad only
- Price: 349
- 3rd party support on the System is bad
- Nin looks like its just slighty better then online on the 3ds.
- Mind blowing "But before you leave...." is WiiFit U


So its still missing a few points but i wanted to concentrate on the most important stuff only!

 

[Nibel]

Worst case scenario:

- Cammie instead of Reggie
- WiiU 1st and 2nd party games look OK but are barely able to distinguish themselves from PS360.
- Most of the 3rd party games look worse like their xbox 360/ps3 counterpart
- No Pikmin 3. Uggies Dog trainorz 2012 announced instead. Launch title...
- Uggie on stage.......
- No new Mario
- Retros new game is nothing we expected, looks meh, gameplay not that great.
- 1 SKU -> comes with the Upad only
- Price: 349
- 3rd party support on the System is bad
- Nin looks like its just slighty better then online on the 3ds.
- Mind blowing "But before you leave...." is WiiFit U

This list made my heart hurt :lol

 

[peter]

Peripherals - Nintendo Wii U

ViviTouch - Feel The Game

Now this is rather interesting, seeing what Artificial Muscle's ViviTouch technology is.



To summarize, it's haptics. Nothing truly revolutionary but could give the Wii U Remote a nice boost. G4 has an article and a video from CES 2012 about this: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/719899/ces-2012-vivitouch-and-the-future-of-rumble/

http://www.vivitouch.com/technology.php

I''m not sure if you know what haptic feedback is, but it''s realy revolutionary and you can do a whole new gaming experion with it. I told a few pages back that it hope it will come and it because true. Think about for example a zelda games where you have dust/sand on your screen and you need to find the button by feeling it. Or just rotating gear and feeling it. But you can do allot more with it.

 

[Roo]

This list made my heart hurt :lol

Naahh, you'll be fine, everything looks GoregouS. BELIEVE!!

 

[HylianTom]

Cammie instead of Reggie? Awwwww yeeeauh!

 

[lednerg]

I''m not sure if you know what haptic feedback is, but it''s realy revolutionary and you can do a whole new gaming experion with it. I told a few pages back that it hope it will come and it because true. Think about for example a zelda games where you have dust/sand on your screen and you need to find the button by feeling it. Or just rotating gear and feeling it. But you can do allot more with it.

That's not what ViviTouch is, though. It's more like an improved rumble pack that doesn't use motors. The screen itself isn't effected. It's already sold as an iPhone add-on, and is compatible with a few games. It's still cool and I'd rather it be used than not, but it's not the same as the screen texture tech we've seen at trade shows in years past.

 

[ColdBlooder]

Cammie instead of Reggie? Awwwww yeeeauh!

Where did you get Peter Moores "Good sleep" pillow from?

EDIT: btw, thats not Cammie, thats Perrin She left Nintendo End of 2008! Cammie on stage E3 08 propably was too much for poor Perrin

EDIT2: Cammie left 2010, so no Cammie no matter what *woot*

 

[Krev]

I realize I shouldn't drag this thread back to last week's bad news, but...

I was thinking about how sad the Sega situation is for Wii U. In the short term, and provided the Jet Set Radio rumour was true, it's lost an exclusive, and a great sounding one at that. Despite Nintendo's capability to carry their own platforms, I still feel that they need all the third party support they can get. In the long term, it's more worrying.
Among the Sega titles published for Wii were House of the Dead: Overkill, Sonic Colors, Let's Tap, Madworld, The Conduit, Nights: Journey of Dreams, Samba Di Amigo, and Ghost Squad. Obviously these are of varying levels of quality, but I don't think any other third party even tried to bring interesting exclusives to the platform like Sega did. At best there were a few one-offs like Zack and Wiki from Capcom and Ubisoft's Rabbids Go Home and Red Steel 2. Without Sega's support, Wii's software line-up looks just that extra bit worse to the game enthusiast. Wii U won't have this problem if it gets ports of all major multiplatform games, but that's a big if. It would be a real shame for Wii U if there's no major publisher like Sega willing to really take chances on software for the platform.
The best case scenario is that the other majors invest early in Wii U to avoid a repeat of the profits they missed out on by betting against Wii last time.

 

[peter]

That's not what ViviTouch is, though. It's more like an improved rumble pack that doesn't use motors. The screen itself isn't effected. It's already sold as an iPhone add-on, and is compatible with a few games. It's still cool and I'd rather it be used than not, but it's not the same as the screen texture tech we've seen at trade shows in years past.

Thanks for explaining it. I hope it was with the motors, but still beter than nothing.

 

[Anth0ny]

Best case scenario:

- More swagger Reggie returns!
- WiiU 1st and 2nd party games loook GOREGOUS
- Most of the 3rd party games look better then their xbox 360/ps3 counterpart
- Pikmin 3 announced as launch title. Looks goregous and is playable
- New 3D Mario coming 2013, playable on the show. Looks and plays great
- Retros new Zelda game is shown, it looks great, plays great. Darker theme anyone expected. Playable on the showfloor. But coming Fall 2013 earliest.
- Smash Bros U teaser (CG, no ingame material)
- Gamecube VC announced
- 2 SKUs -> One comes with just the Upad and one pack in game. The second one includes Wiimote+ and Nunchuck in the box and a 25 bucks eshop card. or a download code for a GC VC title.
- Price: 249/299
- Lots of 3rd party games on the System.
- Nin looks very promising, a service like on PS360 with more focus on social/community features.
- Mind blowing "But before you leave...." game at the end of the conference

 

[HylianTom]

Where did you get Peter Moores "Good sleep" pillow from?

EDIT: btw, thats not Cammie, thats Perrin She left Nintendo End of 2008! Cammie on stage E3 08 propably was too much for poor Perrin

EDIT2: Cammie left 2010, so no Cammie no matter what *woot*

You're right! In the midst of my excitement, I got my NintenGals mixxed-up.. shame on me!

Let's see.. E3 predictions. Hmm. I'll be back. Finishing BG&E.

 

[DefectiveReject]

Thanks to Nintendos art and graphical style, no Nintendo games will look like 360/ps3 games.

I'm willing to bet that if Retro show anything off, it'll be the best looking game shown by any company so far, even the unreal4 demos shown behind doors, purely due to art direction and a better imagination..... ;-)

Of course this is all personal opinion....

 

[Mr. E. Yis]

So, what does everyone here think the WiiU medium is going to be? Does it seem like a given that games will use DVD, or is there a possibility for Bluray? DVDs at this point in time to me seem limited, especially looking at multi-disc Xbox 360 games. I just dont want another excuse for developers to not make games and ports for it. Or maybe Nintendo will make another proprietary size disc like NGC?

 

[Krev]

So, what does everyone here think the WiiU medium is going to be? Does it seem like a given that games will use DVD, or is there a possibility for Bluray? DVDs at this point in time to me seem limited, especially looking at multi-disc Xbox 360 games. I just dont want another excuse for developers to not make games and ports for it. Or maybe Nintendo will make another proprietary size disc like NGC?

It uses proprietary 25GB discs.

 

[z0m3le]

I realize I shouldn't drag this thread back to last week's bad news, but...

I was thinking about how sad the Sega situation is for Wii U. In the short term, and provided the Jet Set Radio rumour was true, it's lost an exclusive, and a great sounding one at that. Despite Nintendo's capability to carry their own platforms, I still feel that they need all the third party support they can get. In the long term, it's more worrying.
Among the Sega titles published for Wii were House of the Dead: Overkill, Sonic Colors, Let's Tap, Madworld, The Conduit, Nights: Journey of Dreams, Samba Di Amigo, and Ghost Squad. Obviously these are of varying levels of quality, but I don't think any other third party even tried to bring interesting exclusives to the platform like Sega did. At best there were a few one-offs like Zack and Wiki from Capcom and Ubisoft's Rabbids Go Home and Red Steel 2. Without Sega's support, Wii's software line-up looks just that extra bit worse to the game enthusiast. Wii U won't have this problem if it gets ports of all major multiplatform games, but that's a big if. It would be a real shame for Wii U if there's no major publisher like Sega willing to really take chances on software for the platform.
The best case scenario is that the other majors invest early in Wii U to avoid a repeat of the profits they missed out on by betting against Wii last time.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/06/old-school-sega-dev-hirokazu-yasuhara-starts-work-at-nintendo/

At least we are starting to get some of the most important talent from sega's glory years... I think Nintendo is going to collect a lot of great talent, and I think it is great that he is up here in Washington where he can lead a team, besides this is the studio responsible for Wave Race and 1080o, we could be in for a real treat.

Also do we have any idea what Camelot is up to? thinking of Sega's Dreamcast years made me think of Virtual Tennis lol so I was wondering what our Mario Tennis/Mario Golf, Golden Sun developer was up to.

 

[Nibel]

So, what does everyone here think the WiiU medium is going to be? Does it seem like a given that games will use DVD, or is there a possibility for Bluray? DVDs at this point in time to me seem limited, especially looking at multi-disc Xbox 360 games. I just dont want another excuse for developers to not make games and ports for it. Or maybe Nintendo will make another proprietary size disc like NGC?

I think there was a rumor that they will use their own proprietary size disc which was like.. mhm, 25GB? Not as much as a Blu-Ray, but not less than a DVD appearantly

 

[ColdBlooder]

I think there was a rumor that they will use their own proprietary size disc which was like.. mhm, 25GB? Not as much as a Blu-Ray, but not less than a DVD appearantly

Its the same size than a single layered blu ray. 50gb discs are double layer blu rays. I dont know if Nintendos "proprietary format" will be able to use double layer though...

 

[ColdBlooder]

Let's Tap

Damn i read the T as an F the first time, lol

The difference between Sega and Nintendo is, that the latter has 1st Party games that DO sell extremely well. So i dont see the "dreamcast scenario" happening...

 

[Mr. E. Yis]

It uses proprietary 25GB discs.

T

This was mentioned by Nintendo at last year's E3? I guess I totally forgot about it. Or is it just a rumor?

 

[Krev]

Nintendo should have Skrillex on stage at E3 to deliver a rad brostep accompaniment to the conference.
There can be a drop everytime Iwata drops a bomb.
Pikmin 3. WUB. Super Mario Bros 4? WUB WUB. Eternal Darkness 2? EEEEEEEEEEEE. Metroid Dread. WUB WUB WUB. Beyond Good and Evil 2. wub wub WUB WUUUUB

 

[z0m3le]

Its the same size than a single layered blu ray. 50gb discs are double layer blu rays. I dont know if Nintendos "proprietary format" will be able to use double layer though...

That should indeed be possible, as it will still use a blue color laser and be powerful enough for multiple layers, still... I'd imagine 25gb being enough for games this next gen, the only games I can see expanding on that are ones that are heavy on video and care nothing for algorithms.

 

[jump_button]

So is the Wii U down to being less powerful then PS1 yet? I wish sega would just make game for Big N they just a better fit I do hope we get a Sonic colours 2

 

[Roo]

T

This was mentioned by Nintendo at last year's E3? I guess I totally forgot about it. Or is it just a rumor?

It is confirmed

A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs.

http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/about

 

[z0m3le]

So is the Wii U down to being less powerful then PS1 yet?

It's at least on par with the Dreamcast still.

Edit: on par means it might be slightly better, it's pretty subjective.

 

[Krev]

Damn i read the T as an F the first time, lol

It's a terrific party game. I picked it up for $10 AUD, which was a steal for how much fun I got out of playing it with friends.

T

This was mentioned by Nintendo at last year's E3? I guess I totally forgot about it. Or is it just a rumor?

Eguchi confirmed it to Kotaku last year.

 

[Myriadis]

So is the Wii U down to being less powerful then PS1 yet?

An anonymous source told me that it is actually weaker than the SNES.

 

[AniHawk]

An anonymous source told me that it is actually weaker than the SNES.

remember, don't mention me by name.

 

[z0m3le]

An anonymous source told me that it is actually weaker than the SNES.

2 gameboy colors duct taped together confirmed!

Retro will still make something amazing with it... maybe super metroid 2... aww... now I feel bad because that isn't happening.

 

[sinxtanx]

An anonymous source told me that it is actually weaker than the SNES.

Was it Anihawk?

 

[AniHawk]

god dammit, myriadis

 

[blu]

My E3 predictions:

...
Most likely scenario:

- Certain 1st and 2nd party games look GOREGOUS. WiiU Sports will look like Wii Sports in HD.
- Most of the 3rd party games look exactly or a little worse like indistinguishable from their xbox 360/ps3 counterparts.
- Pikmin 3 announced as launch title. Looks goregous and is playable.
- New 3D Mario coming 2013, its only announced with some screens.
- Retros new game is nothing we expected, it looks great, plays great will cause a mixed reaction among the fans - part of them will be ecstatic, another part - 'Nooo, Retro!'. Playable on the showfloor Shown in videos only or interactive demos with some elements from the gameplay. Main purpose is to serve as technical tour de force of the platform, and it will brilliantly meet that goal among the general audience (clearly that excludes certain console warriors and elements of the specialized press, who will be 'Meh, barely above ps3 level / Not Samaritan / etc').
- 1 SKU -> comes with the Upad and a pack in game only. Nintendo announces certified accessories by 1st and 3rd parties (hdd, etc).
- Price: 299 $349.
- 3rd party support on the System is "decent" but their still missing some important ones, features some definitive versions of multiplats for the upad enhancements alone (case in point: Colonial Marines). 3rd party exclusives are sparse in between, mainly represented by ubisoft.
- Nin looks promising, a service like on PS360 Not as feature rich as on PS360 but still way better then anything they have now. Feature-complete at launch.
- NO Mind blowing "But before you leave...." game at the end of the conference, aside from new 3D Mario coming late 2013 / early 2014, announced with some screens.

There, my version.