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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition (PC) - New interviews, details, artwork/screens

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Darkkn

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You would think that it would be a great thing when a original developer handles the port, but given that they probably never have even played a modern pc game... well let's see what comes out of that.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Given Japanese developer attitudes to the PC platform, I really don't see this as strange. Disappointing, but to be expected.

The comments on the Guardian article are great:

Believe me I know. I'm getting all that. It really is that baffling to me.

First we have The Witcher 2 (way more competent PC game) with issues and now one of the best games last year gets what I would call a downright sloppy and half assed port. I don't even know if I want it anymore. It's that bad and I don't want to feel this way. I have Steam funds sitting just for this game and they may be free'd up if they mess it up and just don't put it on Steam.
 

ctrayne

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720P, 30fps locked, minimal keyboard/mouse interface adjustments, and GFWL? Is this some sort of troll? It's always said Dark Souls is for the hardcore, but From Software/Namco Bandai are taking this up like 1 million more notches for the PC release.

Well, the way I see it is that, unless you have a console, this is the only way someone like me can experience the game. It sucks, but I'll take gimped port over no port.
 
So possible limited resolution. locked framerate, limited KB+B support.


So in a few days we went from GFWL ruining the game to GFWL being the least of this versions problems.

Thats something I guess.


I am sure the community would fix any resolution/FR limitations but still... bad form Namco/From.
 

Eusis

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Yes, support mediocrity
It's possible that if they see a serious market there they'll realize they need to take more effort to properly address it in the future. This is pretty much a freshman effort since it sounds like an internal port job.
 
720P, 30fps locked, minimal keyboard/mouse interface adjustments, and GFWL? Is this some sort of troll? It's always said Dark Souls is for the hardcore, but From Software/Namco Bandai are taking this up like 1 million more notches for the PC release.

Lol if all of these miraculously pan out... way to butcher your game...
 

Shaheed79

dabbled in the jelly
720P, 30fps locked, minimal keyboard/mouse interface adjustments, and GFWL? Is this some sort of troll? It's always said Dark Souls is for the hardcore, but From Software/Namco Bandai are taking this up like 1 million more notches for the PC release.

It sure as heaven seems like it. I'm not going to complain about the GFWL until it is 100% confirmed but it most certainly doesn't look good.

So will we be able to pull off an RE4 PC modding situation in order to save it from the depths of 2006 limited technology?
 
I was thinking more along the lines of supporting From Software.

Fair enough, I just can't imagine wanting to support shit like this. Especially if you've already bought the PS360 version. This is absolute garbage if it's seriously 720p 30FPS locked. To each their own though, I guess.
 

Maedhros

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720p and 30FPS?

I'm still in. I usually play at 900p, but 720p is not that uncommon for me in some games.

30 FPS locked would still be better than what consoles offer.

So I'm in.
 
Weird that they release 1080p and 1440p press images.

Their PR department stretched the images too much in Photoshop, clearly.

I wanted a PC version as much as anyone, and I didn't care about GFWL, but I can't support the PC version if it's as pathetic as these quotes suggest. I'd be fine with an unlocked framerate and resolution options. That's ALL I need. I don't care if it has no AA options etc, as nice as that would be.

Don't do this to me, From!
 

Jintor

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If you want my speculation, I think Namco were always planning a major DLC release, but the petition made them realise there was a viable market on PC, so they threw their resources into a quick and dirty portjob for PC to coincide with the extra stuff.
 

Ridley327

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Didn't L.A. Noire make the excuse that the actor's faces were recorded with 30fps and that it'd look weird if the framerate were uncapped? I dunno, but I remember hearing something like that around launch

LA Noire's facial animation is basically FMV being projected onto a character model, so it's not that bad of a reason to keep the framerate locked.
 

Orayn

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I don't think it's a wise idea to support shoddy port efforts. If you really want to support them that much, buy one of the console versions.

Fair enough, I just can't imagine wanting to support shit like this. Especially if you've already bought the PS360 version. This is absolute garbage if it's seriously 720p 30FPS locked. To each their own though, I guess.

I want to use my wallet to vote in favor of Souls games on PC, even if this turns out to be less than stellar due to their limited experience with the platform. The prospect of future installments being on PC and being done better is enough for me.
 

HoosTrax

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I think they're just making sure nobody begs them for a PC version of their games ever again.
Devilishly roundabout (yet quite effective) way to go about it. I'm at the point where if they're not even going to make a bare modicum of effort at a passable PC port, then they shouldn't bother. It'll just be painful disappointment for everyone involved.
 
Medicore? Worst ports of the gen? This is still Dark Souls, which was amazing AS-IS, and with multiple new areas and bosses. They could deliberately crank the resolution down to 640x480 and I'd probably still play it.

I was hooked on the game because of its content, not its performance, which has never been technically THAT good. If this is more of the same, I welcome it with open arms.
 

2San

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If you want my speculation, I think Namco were always planning a major DLC release, but the petition made them realise there was a viable market on PC, so they threw their resources into a quick and dirty portjob for PC to coincide with the extra stuff.
I think most people agree with you.
 

Sophia

Member
I want to use my wallet to vote in favor of Souls games on PC, even if this turns out to be less than stellar due to their limited experience with the platform. The prospect of future installments being on PC and being done better is enough for me.

Suit yourself. I, however, am not going to hide behind "limited experience" as an excuse for a shoddy port. It's not like they don't have ways to see how other developers (even Japanese ones) did it right.
 

Zimbardo

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I wish we had some means of conveying this current of 'you're fucking this up' to whoever is in charge there

lets take to the petitions once again!


first it was to get the game on PC.

second petition was against using GFWL.

third petition is to have uncapped framerates and high resolutions! make it happen! :D
 

DTKT

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Medicore? Worst ports of the gen? This is still Dark Souls, which was amazing AS-IS, and with multiple new areas and bosses. They could deliberately crank the resolution down to 640x480 and I'd probably still play it.

I was hooked on the game because of its content, not its performance, which has never been technically THAT good. If this is more of the same, I welcome it with open arms.

Then, there is no reason for the game to be on the PC.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Bandai Namco thanks you for supporting their lazy cash in port job. Maybe we'll let you have another lazy port job in the future for your support!

Yep, that is really the mentality to take on this one and I'm a staunch supporter. Avid and signed the petition and pimped it to friends. This is a complete 180 in the opposite direction of what I expected from a bare bones (content added) version of the game with at least resolution and unlocked fps.

Then, there is no reason for the game to be on the PC.

Exactly. Why even make it? Especially if the DLC may not even come to consoles (which is highly unlikely but again, Miyazaki basically said it)
 
Medicore? Worst ports of the gen? This is still Dark Souls, which was amazing AS-IS, and with multiple new areas and bosses. They could deliberately crank the resolution down to 640x480 and I'd probably still play it.

I was hooked on the game because of its content, not its performance, which has never been technically THAT good. If this is more of the same, I welcome it with open arms.

Great.

Good to know we have totally different standards CONSIDERING each platform and that technical performance is not an issue, cause you'll play it anyway. Even though the PC can curb or better yet, resolve many of those issues.


Then, there is no reason for the game to be on the PC.

Pretty much.
 

Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
When did people get so pathetically bitter? Reading the comments on RPS was painful. If you don't want to buy this, don't. Nobody's forcing you or telling you off for it. Telling others that if they want it they're doing something bad is absurd. Not to mention the way some of those people said it. I think I was put off from visiting for weeks...

On topic, sounds good to me. The game's made for a given spec so probably doesn't have many graphics options as they can't be easily retrofit without too much hassle to be worth it, but resolution alone + whatever AA, AO, etc we can force from our graphics card settings are going to be more than enough on top of stabler vsynced frame rate and such, for the PCs that can handle it.

GFWL, eh, I've got no emotional investment in loathing it, it worked just fine in SSFIV and LP2 (it was the least of the latter's problems, heh). PC games without GFWL aren't necessarily grand either, I can't blame it for everything like some people.

Controls, well, the gamepad is the best way to play such games, just as a joystick is best for flight/space sims and the like, needing extra devices is nothing new for PC gaming (or gaming in general). But I guess I could see some people complain even if some PC Monster Hunter was announced for localisation/port/whatever without many mouse centric options, which I'd laugh with. Complaining just strikes me as a bit ignorant and pretentious but eh, some might have their reasons and are free to act on them.

Mods, again, not every PC only game is modable either. They would have been cool but it's not a mandatory feature for purchase for me. Especially when many of the modable games don't even get anything worthwhile as everyone just mods the popular stuff.

In the end I'd rather have a great unmodable game than a mediocre modable one like say, Skyrim. Great and modable and popular enough to be modded is sweet when it happens, but eh, it can't happen all the time.

As for the assumptions on what some passing remarks meant, I'm gonna wait and see for that instead of proclaim 720p locked is a given. I'm quite confident there will be display resolution options as I mentioned but I guess I could be wrong. If the frame rate is locked there are probably underlying issues with how the game was made since it wasn't ever intended to get on PC. I can personally forgive that for the chance to play it. It's not like it will be worse than the console game that many of us wanted.

In short, bring it on, maybe with games like it and Witcher 2 Bethesda may get the hint and invest in having varied, deep, involving, challenging and fun combat in their future so PC friendly games (mods, so we can hope fans can salvage the mess!!1).

And hey, maybe if it does well the next game will have the PC in mind as well, and offer some more settings and things as icing on the extra delicious cake that (hopefully, hence all the begging from PC gamers) is the actual game.

GAF again proves that there's a defense force for everything. I'm disappointed that you didn't use the word "entitled" though.
I'm sorry I don't approve of people telling others that they like getting raped because they want to play a game like Dark Souls, of which there's next to none on any platform, nevermind the PC. I'm also sorry I don't feel the same way you do I guess, which in turn makes me a defense force for... er... something, saving you the effort of actually writing something sensible to counter the points you feel I was wrong in (no, you can't argue my opinions and what I like/mind and don't like/mind, those are for me).

Have you ever played a PC game in your life?

As above then. That's really the best you two can do? Sad how ignorant and pretentious you too are.
 

Jintor

Member
It's kind of amusing to me to see "Fuck Namco-Bandai!" in the Dark Souls thread and "Woo Namco-Bandai!" in the Tekken thread.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
There will always be a way around resolution and framerate limits, the most important things.
 
When did people get so pathetically bitter? Reading the comments on RPS was painful.

If you don't want to buy this, don't. Telling others that if they want it they're doing something bad is absurd. Not to mention the way some of those people said it.

On topic, sounds good to me. The game's made for a given spec so probably doesn't have many graphics options as they can't be easily retrofit without too much hassle to be worth it, but resolution alone + whatever AA, AO, etc we can force from our graphics card settings are going to be more than enough.

GFWL, eh, I've got no emotional investment in loathing it, it worked just fine in SSFIV and LP2 (it was the least of the latter's problems, heh). PC games without GFWL aren't necessarily grand either.

Controls, well, the gamepad is the best way to play such games, just as a joystick is best for flight/space sims and the like, needing extra devices is nothing new for PC gaming (or gaming in general). But I guess I could see some people complain even if some PC Monster Hunter was announced for localisation/port/whatever without many mouse centric options, which I'd laugh with. Complaining just strikes me as a bit ignorant and pretentious but eh, some of them might have their reasons and are free to act on them.

Mods, again, not every PC only game is modable either. They would have been cool but it's not a mandatory feature for purchase for me. Especially when some of the modable games don't even get anything worthwhile as everyone just mods the popular stuff.
Have you ever played a PC game in your life?
 
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