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[chickdigger802]

I played that FPS Modern Combat 3 on my phone because its on sale and boy do the controls suck. Until phones have physical buttons phone gaming will never be the future. The only people that those games appeal to are the casual crowd that flocked to the Wii. While it made the Wii extremely popular and profitable they completely abandoned the Wii after a few years and the Xbox 360 quickly became the top selling console again.

The causual crowd is a completely flaky crowd and will completely bail on you when the next fad arrives. The hardcore will always be around until the end.

idk. Might just be me, but after 20 mins or so I can probably play MC3 better than any psp fps game. Just don't overthink it

The biggest problem I have had with psp and vita is the abundant of ports with compromises.

It's way worse now that I picked up a ps3. Why pay more for a game that's missing graphical elements or modes or what not?

 

[H_Prestige]

No-one expects them to give out games to people who bought the games originally, why should a VC owner get more than someone who paid 5 times the amount for the same game? Also the thing with the PS1 classics, most of the games people want are 3rd Party I would have thought that plays a part in that (we'll see if PS2 games work on the Vita, there are more 1st party hits on that format).

What does this have to do with anything? It's better for the consumer if Nintendo followed Sony's route with ps1/ps2 classics. Buy it once, run it on any device. It's not even just a Sony thing, it's the industry standard. When you buy an iphone app, you don't have to buy it again to use it on the ipad, or vice versa.

I think we're at the point where Nintendo can cook up NES/SNES/N64 emulators and run them on all their consoles.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

There are no N64 games available for the 3DS(unless you are talking about OoT or LW64), & I don't ever remember Nintendo promising that Wii VC games will be playable on other devices (& I expect them to transfer to the Wii U), it seems a bit naive to expect Nintendo to give out something for free.




All my VC games are linked to my Club Nintendo Acct, & have been for years.

i'm talking about the N64 games i bought in the shop for Wii and that i want them playable on 3ds.

i never said nintendo promised anything. i said they are acting like fucking idiots for not allowing you to transfer games YOU ALREADY PAID FOR (never said they should give any games away for free) to the 3ds so you can play it on the go. PSP/Vita (eventually) allow this so i don't see why nintendo shouldn't. again, nintendo just comes off like they are dinosaurs trying to prevent you from using modern technology to your benefit

 

[Oppo]

What does this have to do with anything? It's better for the consumer if Nintendo followed Sony's route with ps1/ps2 classics. Buy it once, run it on any device. It's not even just a Sony thing, it's the industry standard. When you buy an iphone app, you don't have to buy it again to use it on the ipad, or vice versa.

Sometimes you do. They're not all Universal apps.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Very true.

I bought a PSP week one on release. I have something like 50+ UMD games. The PSV can play those games, but not on my form factor. Given the high price of entry and the fact that I can't play the games I already own I've passed on the PSV up to now.

I also have 50+ DS games. I paid $250 day one for the 3DS because I knew that barring all else I could play my huge DS library on it.

We're living in the same reality brother. Even with all the problems and questions I have about the Vita's future I would have bought one on day one if my huge UMD catalog was compatible with it. I still have a ton of UMD games that I haven't played yet so there's no way I'm abandoning my library.

Yea but 3DS makes DS games look worse. Vita makes PSP games look and play MUCH better. I'll gladly take the tradeoff.

What part of we can't play our UMDs at all isn't clear here?

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

i'm talking about the N64 games i bought in the shop for Wii and that i want them playable on 3ds.

i never said nintendo promised anything. i said they are acting like fucking idiots for not allowing you to transfer games YOU ALREADY PAID FOR (never said they should give any games away for free) to the 3ds so you can play it on the go. PSP/Vita (eventually) allow this so i don't see why nintendo shouldn't. again, nintendo just comes off like they are dinosaurs trying to prevent you from using modern technology to your benefit

You paid to play them on the Wii, nothing else. I own plenty of games that are on the VC but I have never once thought that Nintendo should give them to me for free(& I paid a lot more money for them than you did for yours, why should you receive better treatment than me?). Also do you believe that Microsoft are dinosaurs? They have very similar policies (Game Room, WP7 etc.), it seems Sony are the odd ones out ( & I gave a potential reason why).

What does this have to do with anything? It's better for the consumer if Nintendo followed Sony's route with ps1/ps2 classics. Buy it once, run it on any device. It's not even just a Sony thing, it's the industry standard. When you buy an iphone app, you don't have to buy it again to use it on the ipad, or vice versa.

The bolded is simply incorrect.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

It seems a bit naive to expect Nintendo to give out something for free.

It's naive to expect most companies to give stuff away for free. However, this is clearly in reference to products we have paid for. It's a bit greedy to ask your customers to pay for the same thing over and over again. I'm not really a Zelda fan, but I suspect some people here have paid for OOT at least 3 times.

 

[Kafel]

Worst case scenario for the Vita : gamers keep ignoring how good it is and read threads like this one instead.

The console has been out for only 2 months. Yet the line-up of games already released in 2012 is probably the most impressive on the Vita compared to others.

 

[Risk Breaker]

It will continue to be "doomed" as long as it keeps being compared to a device that costs around 60% of what a Vita costs.

BTW to those saying you need to spend 320€ for a Vita... I got mine for 230 on launch day with MC included and the games are not 50.

 

[H_Prestige]

The bolded is simply incorrect.

How so?

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

it's very simply really...

Exclusive and AWESOME jaw dropping games that people WANT and that they can not have anywhere else is what Sony needs!

that is all...

 

[Metallix87]

it's very simply really...

Exclusive and AWESOME jaw dropping games that people WANT and that they can not have anywhere else is what Sony needs!

that is all...

The problem is that they would likely need to come from Sony's first party studios at this point, and I'm not sure if they can deliver true system sellers for a handheld.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

The problem is that they would likely need to come from Sony's first party studios at this point, and I'm not sure if they can deliver true system sellers for a handheld.

yeah well maybe they should have thought of that BEFORE launching the thing?

Nintendo's 3DS launch wasn't perfect by any means either, but they had MK7, SM3DL and some other games on the backburner and they KNEW when they'd release those, people would flock to stores and get 3DSes...

it's either that or if you can't have exclusivity then you gotta at LEAST have the 3rd party supersellers ready...

like others said, Call of Duty Vita or something along those lines, they gotta INVEST if they want it to bloom!

 

[zroid]

but I suspect some people here have paid for OOT at least 3 times.

Getting off-topic, I know, but I really don't understand why people keep using OoT as an example of this. Of all the games Nintendo has re-released over the years, OoT is probably the one time they were relatively generous.

After its N64 release, they've put it on Wii's VC for $10. That's literally it. Ocarina 3D was a massive visual overhaul, surely you can't expect them to have given that away?

Yes -- it was released twice on GameCube... for free. Once as a pre-order bonus for Wind Waker, and once as a Club Nintendo-esque promotion (although it pre-dates the actual Club Nintendo).

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Am I weird for wanting the Vita because of its OS? I don't know what games for the Vita I want, maybe except Lumines, but I'm very curious about the OS. That and the screen.

Maybe that is one of the worst case scenarios.

Yes. The OS is terribubble.

It will continue to be "doomed" as long as it keeps being compared to a device that costs around 60% of what a Vita costs.

BTW to those saying you need to spend 320€ for a Vita... I got mine for 230 on launch day with MC included and the games are not 50.

If you're referring to the 3DS, it used to be an equivalent price to the Vita back when it was in a similar situation.

Besides, price is a factor for comparison.

 

[P90]

Worst case scenario: I don't buy it and miss out on great games.

EDIT:

For Vita: Suffer the fate of game boy micro maybe.

Only the Vita does not have other compatible systems to fall back on.

If Sony offers a P4 Golden bundle like the bundle going this week at Target, I'll buy one.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

It's naive to expect most companies to give stuff away for free. However, this is clearly in reference to products we have paid for. It's a bit greedy to ask your customers to pay for the same thing over and over again. I'm not really a Zelda fan, but I suspect some people here have paid for OOT at least 3 times.

No-one is forcing people to buy these games, I have no issue with somebody saying they have no desire to buy VC games until they can play them on any Nintendo platform, that is a reasonable stance, complaining because something that was never promised (or even hinted at, to my knowledge at least) hasn't occurred isn't

How so?

Did you miss the reference to Microsofts policies?

Yes. The OS is terribubble.

The bubbles look badly done, but the multi-tasking looks well done.

 

[impact]

We're living in the same reality brother. Even with all the problems and questions I have about the Vita's future I would have bought one on day one if my huge UMD catalog was compatible with it. I still have a ton of UMD games that I haven't played yet so there's no way I'm abandoning my library.

What part of we can't play our UMDs at all isn't clear here?

Sucks for those with a big physical PSP library, but I don't own UMDs so it's not an issue for me. I'll take Vita's BC over 3DS' BC any day.

 

[H_Prestige]

No-one is forcing people to buy these games, I have no issue with somebody saying they have no desire to buy VC games until they can play them on any Nintendo platform, that is a reasonable stance, complaining because something that was never promised (or even hinted at, to my knowledge at least) hasn't occurred isn't




Did you miss the reference to Microsofts policies?



The bubbles look badly done, but the multi-tasking looks well done.

WTF? If Nintendo isn't offering a feature their most similar competitor is, then people can complain all they want. How the hell isn't that reasonable? We're not even talking about something way out there either, it's simply letting you extend your license to use software on one device to another.

And if MS is pulling the same shit as Nintendo, then they need to get off their asses as well. There are a lot more iOS devices out there compared to WP7. MS isn't even close to being the industry standard here.

 

[erpg]

The bubbles look badly done, but the multi-tasking looks well done.

Everything about it barring the browser is well done.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

WTF? If Nintendo isn't offering a feature their most similar competitor is, then people can complain all they want. How the hell isn't that reasonable? We're not even talking about something way out there either, it's simply letting you extend your license to use software on one device to another.

And if MS is pulling the same shit as Nintendo, then they need to get off their asses as well. There are a lot more iOS devices out there compared to WP7. MS isn't even close to being the industry standard here.

He bought a game to play on the Wii, what right does he have to play it on the 3DS(& that's without even considering N64 games are unavailable on the 3DS)? Again I see no difference between Nintendo not giving out free versions of VC games & Sony not giving out free versions of UMD games( I have no problem with either). As for the industry standard, Apple aren't in the console business so they have no real part in this conversation, therefore MS & Nintendo sharing policies makes that the industry standard.

Everything about it barring the browser is well done.

Really? The way you can't tell what game is in the system(or differentiate between dl'ed games & cart games) doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I would like to hear support from Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, and Media Molecule all with new IP. That would show that they are very serious about the platform.

it's very simply really...

Exclusive and AWESOME jaw dropping games that people WANT and that they can not have anywhere else is what Sony needs!

that is all...

It's nice to want things.

IMO, it's a chicken and egg question. Will the developers get serious before the sales of consoles are significant? Who will take that risk in this economy? I say no, they won't. That's why it's distressing that Sony hasn't been more aggressive with their marketing. creative, system-defining software won't be made by the 3rd party in significant numbers until there is a base able to buy them to mitigate the risk.

Egg must come before the chicken, or the Vita will lose out.

 

[Nilaul]

Worse case senario:

1) Nintendo becomes a patent troll, and vita and sony mobiles arn't allowed to legally emulate anything
2) Vita becomes the next dreamcast.
3) Sony doesn't make another portable gaming machine.

 

[Risk Breaker]

If you're referring to the 3DS, it used to be an equivalent price to the Vita back when it was in a similar situation.

Besides, price is a factor for comparison.

That's exactly what I'm saying? If the 3DS continued to be the same price as Vita the situation would be very different. Obviously, Vita has a big performance and features gap which justifies the price, but being more expensive means harder to sell, specially when it's 2 months old. See Wii vs PS3. Now that the PS3 has lowered its price and the Wii can't go any lower because it doesn't matter anyway, the situation has turned.

 

[Nilaul]

That's exactly what I'm saying? If the 3DS continued to be the same price as Vita the situation would be very different. Obviously, Vita has a big performance and features gap which justifies the price, but being more expensive means harder to sell, specially when it's 2 months old. See Wii vs PS3. Now that the PS3 has lowered its price and the Wii can't go any lower because it doesn't matter anyway, the situation has turned.

Wii sales also dropped considerably because of WiiU anouncement and rumors prior, and because Nintendo stopped supporting it with new games.

 

[aeolist]

Worse case senario:

1) Nintendo becomes a patient troll, and vita and sony mobiles arn't allowed to legally emulate anything
2) Vita becomes the next dreamcast.
3) Sony doesn't make another portable gaming machine.

PATENT troll and you don't know what a patent troll is anyway

 

[Nilaul]

PATENT troll and you don't know what a patent troll is anyway

Somebody who sues others just because they have a patent for personal benefits.

E.G Nintendo's patent of emulation on portable devices.

 

[EternalGamer]

The Vita farted.

That is the worst case scenario.

 

[aeolist]

Somebody who sues others just because they have a patent.

E.G Nice patent of emulation on portable devices.

OK well first, "emulation on a portable device" wouldn't be one patent, it would be a whole shitload of patents depending on what hardware you're running on and what hardware you're emulating, and these patents would be spread out across the software industry. Also since Sony presumably owns or has licences for the patents covering all old Playstation hardware presumably this wouldn't be an issue.

Second, a patent troll is a colloquial term for what's known as a non-practicing entity or NPE. NPEs are individuals or companies that own patents and assert them against others for licensing fees or court settlements without making anything of their own. The reason NPEs are a problem is because they can sue the shit out of everyone else and nobody can check them by suing them for infringement because they do not make any products.

So even if Nintendo could sue Sony for infringing on emulation patents, which they almost certainly couldn't, they wouldn't be a patent troll because they make their own products which may infringe on the patents of others.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

He bought a game to play on the Wii, what right does he have to play it on the 3DS(& that's without even considering N64 games are unavailable on the 3DS)? Again I see no difference between Nintendo not giving out free versions of VC games & Sony not giving out free versions of UMD games( I have no problem with either). As for the industry standard, Apple aren't in the console business so they have no real part in this conversation, therefore MS & Nintendo sharing policies makes that the industry standard.



Really? The way you can't tell what game is in the system(or differentiate between dl'ed games & cart games) doesn't really make sense to me.

it's not the same. you didn't download a UMD game. in order for a UMD to work on psv, you need either a UMD drive or the adapter that came out in japan (where you had to pay $5). this is bullshit too but the thing it if you DOWNLOADED a game, there is no reason it shouldn't be playable on playstation vita/3ds/whatever.

and saying "you bought it on a wii, what right do you have to pay it on 3ds" is apologists bullcrap. that's like saying "hey, you bought FF7 on psone! you have no right to play it on ps2 via BC!" yeah, i know where i bought it, but the technology is there to allow more value for customers and you are defending NOT doing that? lol what a joke

 

[bidaum]

I've been wanting a 3DS for a few months now, primarily because there are a bunch of DS and a few 3DS games I'm really interested in. This is despite the fact that the hardware pisses me off. I think no dual joystick is short sighted and I have zero interest in 3D. When the Vita was coming out I thought it was a damn sexy piece of hardware... but Gravity Daze was the only game that remotely interested me. I felt like most of the games the vita was launching with were/are lite versions of already established titles.

Now I haven't owned a portable since the original gameboy; I really have no interest in an "on-the-go" gaming system, so my opinion may be an outlier. I'm only interested in the games. So, I may represent the poorly informed masses, but the Vita seems to lack enough compelling games. I know the 3DS had serious launch game problems itself, so maybe in a year the Vita's games will intrigue me.

I've seen a number of people post saying the vita had a great launch lineup. I readily admit it could just be my ignorance, but it seemed pretty dull to me.

 

[Nilaul]

OK well first, "emulation on a portable device" wouldn't be one patent, it would be a whole shitload of patents depending on what hardware you're running on and what hardware you're emulating, and these patents would be spread out across the software industry. Also since Sony presumably owns or has licences for the patents covering all old Playstation hardware presumably this wouldn't be an issue.

Second, a patent troll is a colloquial term for what's known as a non-practicing entity or NPE. NPEs are individuals or companies that own patents and assert them against others for licensing fees or court settlements without making anything of their own. The reason NPEs are a problem is because they can sue the shit out of everyone else and nobody can check them by suing them for infringement because they do not make any products.

So even if Nintendo could sue Sony for infringing on emulation patents, which they almost certainly couldn't, they wouldn't be a patent troll because they make their own products which may infringe on the patents of others.

Ok maybe I misunderstood the term a bit.

We are talking about the absolute worse case scenario (the worst case absolute scenario never ever happens) were Nintendo sues Sony it successfully ( Patents specific name: "Hand-held video game platform emulation"). But this wont happen probably. Nintendo most likely created this patent to have the ability to take legal action to anyone that creates emulators of there own consoles and distributes them.

 

[RoboGeorgeForeman]

I've been wanting a 3DS for a few months now, primarily because there are a bunch of DS and a few 3DS games I'm really interested in. This is despite the fact that the hardware pisses me off. I think no dual joystick is short sighted and I have zero interest in 3D. When the Vita was coming out I thought it was a damn sexy piece of hardware... but Gravity Daze was the only game that remotely interested me. I felt like most of the games the vita was launching with were/are lite versions of already established titles.

I feel mostly the same way, except the region locking on the 3DS is a bigger issue for me. Also I don't think it's the "lite versions" thing that's bugging me so much as the games being sequels to franchises I don't care for (e.g. Uncharted, Resistance, Little Big Planet).

 

[Fredrik]

I've seen a number of people post saying the vita had a great launch lineup. I readily admit it could just be my ignorance, but it seemed pretty dull to me.

Uncharted, Little Deviant and Escape Plan alone made the launch lineup great imo. I enjoyed Uncharted Golden Abyss even more than any PS3 Uncharted, the controls are awesome, graphics mind blowing, gameplay fantastic and it didn't have the end of the game dip that both U1 and U2 had. And the super polished 60fps gem Little Deviant and unique Escape Plan both perfectly showed what the Vita was all about.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

it's not the same. you didn't download a UMD game. in order for a UMD to work on psv, you need either a UMD drive or the adapter that came out in japan (where you had to pay $5). this is bullshit too but the thing it if you DOWNLOADED a game, there is no reason it shouldn't be playable on playstation vita/3ds/whatever.

and saying "you bought it on a wii, what right do you have to pay it on 3ds" is apologists bullcrap. that's like saying "hey, you bought FF7 on psone! you have no right to play it on ps2 via BC!" yeah, i know where i bought it, but the technology is there to allow more value for customers and you are defending NOT doing that? lol what a joke

I'm not defending them not doing that( I just don't care, if I really want to play a game another £5-10 makes no difference to me, but then again I have only really bought games I never played before), just pointing out they have clearly set out their position(& have done so for years), & that your complaints are pointless(especially as they don't even offer most VC games on the 3DS) & a year after launch I would have thought you would have moved on.
Also just because Sony doesn't separate between the two platforms Nintendo are under no obligation to do so (in the same way Microsoft don't/didn't).

 

[Saint Gregory]

Sucks for those with a big physical PSP library, but I don't own UMDs so it's not an issue for me. I'll take Vita's BC over 3DS' BC any day.

The implementation is better if you never owned or just recently bought a PSP but it's ironic how much it punishes day one PSP supporters.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

I'm not defending them not doing that( I just don't care, if I really want to play a game another £5-10 makes no difference to me, but then again I have only really bought games I never played before), just pointing out they have clearly set out their position(& have done so for years), & that your complaints are pointless(especially as they don't even offer most VC games on the 3DS) & a year after launch I would have thought you would have moved on.
Also just because Sony doesn't separate between the two platforms Nintendo are under no obligation to do so (in the same way Microsoft don't/didn't).

i have moved on. i no longer own a 3ds and i wasn't petitioning for it to happen, i was just giving an example of why the vita will always be a success for me after sony activates the PSOne bc and how nintendo can learn a few things about value from sony. hopefully in the future nintendo takes advantage of current technology

and no company is under any obligation to do anything for its customers. sony doesn't need to provide free online play, nintendo/sony/ms aren't obligated to have an online network or allow online play in any of their games, they don't need to provide patches or anything else once they have your money. my entire point is while they aren't obligated, it is good to give the consumer more value for their money

 

[chickdigger802]

The implementation is better if you never owned or just recently bought a PSP but it's ironic how much it punishes day one PSP supporters.

I still have no clue who vita is targeting.

It's not old psp owners.

And it's not ps3 owners unless they expect us to buy the same games twice (half the good shit are ps3 ports)

... ds owners?

 

[Juice]

The worst case scenario is Sony closing down.

This. There's a restructuring coming soon and mobile gaming could easily be wiped out overnight.

 

[timetokill]

Worst case scenario "for the Vita" is that the Vita is cancelled.
That might be a best case scenario for Sony as a whole, though.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

i have moved on. i no longer own a 3ds and i wasn't petitioning for it to happen, i was just giving an example of why the vita will always be a success for me after sony activates the PSOne bc and how nintendo can learn a few things about value from sony. hopefully in the future nintendo takes advantage of current technology

and no company is under any obligation to do anything for its customers. sony doesn't need to provide free online play, nintendo/sony/ms aren't obligated to have an online network or allow online play in any of their games, they don't need to provide patches or anything else once they have your money. my entire point is while they aren't obligated, it is good to give the consumer more value for their money

Oh, then I misunderstood you.

I still have no clue who vita is targeting.

It's not old psp owners.

And it's not ps3 owners unless they expect us to buy the same games twice (half the good shit are ps3 ports)

... ds owners?

What makes you think they weren't targeting PSP owners? Lack of BC? I would have thought that was exactly who they were targeting(at least until CoD arrives).

 

[kiunchbb]

Support will die out, it will sell for $100, and someone will hack the system allow it to play homebrew.

Become another machine to play SNES game!

yay!

 

[shinra-bansho]

Ok maybe I misunderstood the term a bit.

We are talking about the absolute worse case scenario (the worst case absolute scenario never ever happens) were Nintendo sues Sony it successfully ( Patents specific name: "Hand-held video game platform emulation"). But this wont happen probably. Nintendo most likely created this patent to have the ability to take legal action to anyone that creates emulators of there own consoles and distributes them.

The actual description of the patent is for specifically as follows:
"A software emulator for emulating a handheld video game platform such as GAME BOY, GAME BOY COLOR and/or GAME BOY ADVANCE on a low-capability target platform (e.g., a seat-back display for airline or train use, a personal digital assistant, a cell phone) uses a number of features and optimizations to provide high quality graphics and sound that nearly duplicates the game playing experience on the native platform. Some exemplary features include use of bit BLITing, graphics character reformatting, modeling of a native platform liquid crystal display controller using a sequential state machine, and selective skipping of frame display updates if the game play falls behind what would occur on the native platform."

The idea that Nintendo could patent in 2003 the mere concept of emulation of games on handhelds is silly, considering the degree of prior art.

 

[Phife Dawg]

nintendo could learn quite a bit from sony in regards to letting their classic games you buy on their main system (ps3/wii) transfer to your portable. that was the biggest disappointment i had with 3ds and why i sold it. why the fuck can't i transfer my NES/SNES/N64 games i already paid for on wii to the 3ds? fucking dinosaurs

The reason is that they do not have an account based system (yet). That just shows how stupid that omission is though. They have to get their stuff together for WiiU, account based system is in but since it's Nintendo we're talking about maybe they'll expect us to double and triple dip.

The only people whining about touch controls are core gamers coming from the home console experience. Core gamers are going to find their needs more and more marginalised as developers and publishers shift their focus to what the casual gaming public wants and not what the core gamer dictates.

Nope, have no problem with touch based gaming (bought a DS day 1 back in the days when everyone was hating on touch screen controls) but games like Mario platformers are simply not playable on touch only devices.

Dammit GAF....I'm littarally about to go pick up a Vita this afternoon and now I'm in serious doubt....

/sigh....

You will know much more about the future prospects of the platform and also a possible price cut after E3. Just wait a bit.

As things stand as they are I ain't getting one even if it gets a price drop. I ain't convinced the vita has sufficient third party support and no pes being on a vita only confirms that. E3 needs to be huge but I would not be shocked if its not as everything Sony has done so far suggests they have no strategy.

Huh? No PES for the Champion's League console? That is...odd. To say the least.

 

[Zee-Row]

Portable gamers want Angry Birds/ Draw Something /

The only people whining about touch controls are core gamers coming from the home console experience. Core gamers are going to find their needs more and more marginalised as developers and publishers shift their focus to what the casual gaming public wants and not what the core gamer dictates.

This casual gaming public will be gone in a few years moving on to whatever the next big fad is.

 

[impact]

This casual gaming public will be gone in a few years moving on to whatever the next big fad is.

Razor scooters!

 

[Saint Gregory]

What makes you think they weren't targeting PSP owners? Lack of BC? I would have thought that was exactly who they were targeting(at least until CoD arrives).

They're obviously targeting PSP owners but they shouldn't have ignored the importance of giving long time PSP owners an easy upgrade path until the Vita's library improves.

It wouldn't have been easy but I can guarantee you that Vita would be doing better if there was more incentive for people with UMDs to upgrade.

 

[chickdigger802]

Oh, then I misunderstood you.



What makes you think they weren't targeting PSP owners? Lack of BC? I would have thought that was exactly who they were targeting(at least until CoD arrives).

Vita can't play umds or pirated games.

 

[Zee-Row]

I like console style games in a handheld , Sony corrected the PSP's main problem with the second analog stick. Before that PSP games with a camera had to be controlled with the face buttons or the D-pad which was awful. It was one of the reasons I could never get into Monster Hunter on PSP.

 

[VindictiveGnome]

Razor scooters!

I'm thinking Heelys... I bought a 3DS at launch and abandoned it a month or two after launch because there were just no games for it. I told myself I would wait a year to see how well the Vita performs. I ignored that and bought one a month ago. Don't make me regret it Sony!