Its a video game expo. I think he is.Lol, well that zoomed right over your head.
If you aren't capable of seeing how much better MS has performed at E3 than its competitors over the last several years then I am not sure how to explain it to you as you are not approaching the subject objectively.
If you aren't capable of seeing how much better MS has performed at E3 than its competitors over the last several years then I am not sure how to explain it to you as you are not approaching the subject objectively.
They've certainly had success by moving in that direction and away from making great gaming experiences in the past few years. Microsoft will run into the problem they've created once their next system launches.
The people they have been catering to for the past few years will already have a console that fulfills all of their multimedia needs in the Xbox 360. The "core" gamers that Microsoft has effectively abandoned in the past few years are looking towards Sony and the PC more and more because those platforms are providing more unique and innovative content than Microsoft has been, and unless Kinect 2.0+software is actually revolutionary, Microsoft will have precious little exclusive content to draw those original 25 million customers back, let alone to justify continuing to pay an extra $60 a year for services offered for free on other platforms.
Most consumers get one console a generation and stick with it to the end. The 360 has changed direction and focus a whole lot since '05, and when it comes time for consumers to pick a side again knowing what they know now about the focuses of each platform holder, will they make the same choice again?
Personally, I doubt it. Anecdotally, I know of several current Xbox Live subscribers who are tired of paying $60 a year for a service filled with ads that is providing less and less must-play games and are looking hopefully towards what Sony has to offer in the console space next time around.
That was their intention since 2005.
It's a good idea only because we are at the edge of the next generation of consoles. Services for this and next E3 a blowout for Microsoft's new console
My experiences with the apps on 360 has been terrible.
Poor video quality, horrid interface, fees on top of fees, and shit not being available outside the US.
E3 is becoming less and less important as a spectacle - no one -really- cares who "wins" E3 and given the Wii U is going to be the 'star turn' i'd suggest MS are much better off just continuing to pimp the X360 at this point and have a stand alone event for their launch.
E3 as a concept is starting to look a bit of a white elephant to be honest - no matter how confident you are in your product, why would you risk going against the unknowns of your compeititors ?
Double edge sword really. Gamers (GAF) will be less than pleased with the E3 showing, however the more casual crowd may begin to sway to MS' side as they push a heavy media center focus & will likely build on that with their next system.
Interesting to see what they have to show &, to me, is something to look forward to come E3. I want to see just how far MS will take the app & dashboard aspect for the 360 & see what Nintendo/Sony must do to compete -- if they so choose to.
This kind of worries me. I just hope this doesn't affect their game output.
Same for me.
Has it? They are selling record numbers of xboxs.No no no no no no no no.
This is what they've done the past 2 years and it's been awful.
Reminds me of comic con.Its depressing. Seems like E3 is becoming less and less about games and shifting to just "media entertainment".
I just don't think it's sustainable.
The successful applications are almost all available on the other consoles (Netflix being by far the most popular and most important), and the media hub empire already appears to have been won by Apple to me.
I really don't think the Xbox 360 / 720 stand a chance against the iPad/iTv/iWhatever for media hub dominance. The war is already over, as far as I can tell, and consoles lost. What consoles still have in their favor are games.
Its depressing. Seems like E3 is becoming less and less about games and shifting to just "media entertainment".
I just don't think it's sustainable.
The successful applications are almost all available on the other consoles (Netflix being by far the most popular and most important), and the media hub empire already appears to have been won by Apple to me.
I really don't think the Xbox 360 / 720 stand a chance against the iPad/iTv/iWhatever for media hub dominance. The war is already over, as far as I can tell, and consoles lost. What consoles still have in their favor are games.
Yep. I'd also say that none of the apps on the 360 "add value" to Xbox Gold, unless that term is dishonest on purpose. The only innovation in Gold is the party system.I really don't think the Xbox 360 / 720 stand a chance against the iPad/iTv/iWhatever for media hub dominance. The war is already over, as far as I can tell, and consoles lost. What consoles still have in their favor are games.
None of this will encourage people to buy their next console. I know I'm not going to. Microsoft has almost entirely given up on games, and apps don't demand more powerThe average gold user is spending 80 hours a month on entertainment apps and there are more gold members out there than Apple tv boxes.
If the war is over, it certainly isn't apple that has won.
The xbox 360 hasn't been about games for years, I have no idea why this would be a surprise.
The average gold user is spending 80 hours a month on entertainment apps and there are more gold members out there than Apple tv boxes.
If the war is over, it certainly isn't apple that has won.
Yep. I'd also say that none of the apps on the 360 "add value" to Xbox Gold, unless that term is dishonest on purpose. The only innovation in Gold is the party system.
I guess the thing I don't get is why would I use an Xbox for media consumption when I have a PS3 that doesn't cut access to a certain subset of their consumer base, we have apple and the iTunes ecosystem, and a range of home media hubs like the roku, boxee box, even TV's are coming with home entertainment apps.
Would anybody here honestly suggest an Xbox over the alternatives, to their friends, family and acquaintances who aren't looking first and foremost for multiplayer gaming?I guess the thing I don't get is why would I use an Xbox for media consumption when I have a PS3 that doesn't cut access to a certain subset of their consumer base, we have apple and the iTunes ecosystem, and a range of home media hubs like the roku, boxee box, even TV's are coming with home entertainment apps.
I know several people who bought a Wii for these purposes. They wanted Netflix, and a Wii was the cheapest way to get it. I use my PC hooked up to my TV, which is the technically superior option.
All of the "killer app" services the Xbox offers are commoditized, unlike some of their primary games and Kinect.
lol yeah you are right. There are much better alternatives out right nowWould anybody here honestly suggest an Xbox over the alternatives, to their friends, family and acquaintances who aren't looking first and foremost for multiplayer gaming?
iPad is the winner. The TV hasn't ended up being the central hub for most people, which obviously took Microsoft by surprise and why Apple has risen so mightily while Microsoft has tread water, at best. If the TV ever is the central hub, it won't be through an Xbox, as far as I can tell. Sales are simply too low for the sort of media hub dominance we're talking about: Apple sells as many iPads in one quarter as Microsoft sells Xboxes in a year.
It is often a non-argument in these discussions, people will often back it up by saying they want retail exclusives. Then turn around and say MS doesn't really focus on smaller games.Why do people keep saying msoft have given up on games? XBLA has pretty much shit on retail all year long and continues to do so. Live from a gaming side application works fantastic and if you hate the new Metro UI you press the guide button and have access to everything quickly and cleanly with zero ads. I just don't get why more apps mean gaming has gone in the shitter. The way I see it is the more they expand the 360's audience the more likely third party devs will put their games on 360.
While I don't think they necessarily need to give up on that front, the problem is that Microsoft seems to be focusing on services to the exclusion of games, when said services are available elsewhere without the additional, arbitrary toll gate. I'm a broken record, but if Microsoft wants to be taken seriously there they are going to need to remove the apps from the XBL tollgate and leave that to online gaming or perhaps something like the abandoned Netflix party that can combine Microsoft's strengths (online social infrastructure) with the media apps.I just don't think it's sustainable.
The successful applications are almost all available on the other consoles (Netflix being by far the most popular and most important), and the media hub empire already appears to have been won by Apple to me.
I really don't think the Xbox 360 / 720 stand a chance against the iPad/iTv/iWhatever for media hub dominance. The war is already over, as far as I can tell, and consoles lost. What consoles still have in their favor are games.
Good idea.
I think that MS wants to be Verizon Wireless in your living room, I think they want you to pay monthly and that ultimately the best way to get there isn't to sell you 60$ games.
Personally it's terrible for me, I do not, have not, and will not pay monthly fees for games. So this is a future I won't be a part of. I can hardly blame them for heading this way though, MMOs work, freemium games work, Monthly fees to subsidize expensive devices work. And the more non-game content they can provide the better the whole package looks.
Games as a service are here with a vengeance, so focusing on service makes sense. Smart move for them, but the end of the line for me. I feel like that old man who constantly complains about cell phones.
What's even more ridiculous here is that I prefer the PS3 as my multimedia device anyway. Netflix seems to be nicer on it, it plays DVDs better, and it plays blu-rays period. I don't have much reason to use the Xbox for that sort of stuff really.I get less and less excited about anything they have to do as a gamer, there are no exclusives to really differentiate themselves from just buying the next Sony console and getting the same games + Sony's first party.