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The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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Posted this in the other thread, but yeah anyway

To compete in the online space, all they need to do is this:

1. Have an OS that's freely patchable and update friendly, to future-proof the console throughout the generation.

2. Have multiple profiles available on each console. Each one must be linked to a Club Nintendo account along with any content, NOT tied to the console itself.

3. Allow title updates and patches for games.

4. Have a natural evolution of the eShop, with access to DLC, demos for every game and patches.

5. Voice chat and a decent friend list system.

That's it for the ESSENTIAL stuff. Now, the other stuff which would also be nice:

6. Gamecube/VC downloads from launch. A method to transfer your content from your Wii to the Wii-U (a transfer system seems unlikely though...)

7. Hulu/Netflix available at launch in the USA. Netflix/Lovefilm/BBC iplayer/ITV player etc available from launch in the UK. Very likely, and will help cement it's place in the living room for any audience.

8. Decent music/video capabilities. Fine, it can't play Blu Ray or DVD - but what's stopping it from playing MP3/MP4/DIVX? Not online related, but yeah.


Anyone disagree with me on these points?

Wii U should be good to go then based on the needs. Thought I don't know about the accounts being tied in with Club Nintendo.
 

Oddduck

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8. Decent music/video capabilities. Fine, it can't play Blu Ray or DVD - but what's stopping it from playing MP3/MP4/DIVX? Not online related, but yeah.


Anyone disagree with me on these points?

Small question about #8.

Didn't Wii have MP3 capabilities when it launched but Nintendo dropped it later? Guess they didn't want to pay licensing costs?

I remember putting my MP3's into Excitetruck.
 

Rich!

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Small question about #8.

Didn't Wii have MP3 capabilities when it launched but Nintendo dropped it later?

I remember putting my MP3's into Excitetruck.

Only through that game and the photo channel, then it was removed. 3DS plays MP3s though, and can play video files when converted properly, so signs are looking good so far.
 

Linkhero1

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Posted this in the other thread, but yeah anyway

To compete in the online space, all they need to do is this:

1. Have an OS that's freely patchable and update friendly, to future-proof the console throughout the generation.

2. Have multiple profiles available on each console. Each one must be linked to a Club Nintendo account along with any content, NOT tied to the console itself.

3. Allow title updates and patches for games.

4. Have a natural evolution of the eShop, with access to DLC, demos for every game and patches.

5. Voice chat and a decent friend list system.

That's it for the ESSENTIAL stuff. Now, the other stuff which would also be nice:

6. Gamecube/VC downloads from launch. A method to transfer your content from your Wii to the Wii-U (a transfer system seems unlikely though...)

7. Hulu/Netflix available at launch in the USA. Netflix/Lovefilm/BBC iplayer/ITV player etc available from launch in the UK. Very likely, and will help cement it's place in the living room for any audience.

8. Decent music/video capabilities. Fine, it can't play Blu Ray or DVD - but what's stopping it from playing MP3/MP4/DIVX? Not online related, but yeah.


Anyone disagree with me on these points?
I agree with all your points. If the online system is similar or even better than XBL then I'm happy. One third party game I always play online is CoD and the since the Wii U is definitely getting them then it's one game down.
 

Rich!

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Wii U should be good to go then based on the needs. Thought I don't know about the accounts being tied in with Club Nintendo.

Why not? It's no different to getting your 360 online.

Start up Wii-U, start new profile. Enter in your email address and details and voila - you now have a club nintendo account where all your purchases are recorded and stored. I mean hell, the 3DS has an option to link your CN account - they just need to go into more depth. The fact players can get tangible, REAL rewards for buying games and gaining points could finally become a real system seller if they implement it well enough.
 
Why not? It's no different to getting your 360 online.

Start up Wii-U, start new profile. Enter in your email address and details and voila - you now have a club nintendo account where all your purchases are recorded and stored. I mean hell, the 3DS has an option to link your CN account - they just need to go into more depth. The fact players can get tangible, REAL rewards for buying games and gaining points could finally become a real system seller if they implement it well enough.

I said Wii U should be good to go then. In other words, it will have the needs you mentioned.
 

Linkhero1

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Small question about #8.

Didn't Wii have MP3 capabilities when it launched but Nintendo dropped it later? Guess they didn't want to pay licensing costs?

I remember putting my MP3's into Excitetruck.
I was hoping they continued the trend of letting us play MP3s during games, but I think Excitetruck was the only game that did this. :(

I said Wii U should be good to go then. In other words, it will have the needs you mentioned.

Are you making assumptions or do you have a source? If it has all those then I'm going to be happy :)

Edit: I recall something about NiN back during one of the Investor Meetings, though, I don't remember that information.
 

japtor

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Wsippel was the first person to confirm an ARM would be used again back in the first thread. :)
Possibly useful multitasking possibly confirmed!
Why not? It's no different to getting your 360 online.

Start up Wii-U, start new profile. Enter in your email address and details and voila - you now have a club nintendo account where all your purchases are recorded and stored. I mean hell, the 3DS has an option to link your CN account - they just need to go into more depth. The fact players can get tangible, REAL rewards for buying games and gaining points could finally become a real system seller if they implement it well enough.
Well the "must be linked" part could be an issue, like for a family with a few kids sharing the console, not everyone needs their own Club Nintendo account (if said kids even have their own email accounts yet).
 
This reminds me. Someone posted the E3 Killer Instinct SNES reveal from 1995.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQu_Ujr2aA (Part 1)

Beware. Certain parts might induce seizures.

I still wanna see MS's E3 presser end with a video montage of all the lame Rare game since MS acquired them, followed by "C-C-COMBO BREAKERRR" into a brain melting KI3 reveal. 1080p, handdrawn art, gorgeous 3D environments, 60fps, Sabrewulf vs. Thunder for 3:00 minutes of high level play, ending with a Ultra Combo. E3 implodes, Nintendo's conference still to come.

...and free new revisions of the newest 360 Slims to all attendee's.
 
Are you making assumptions or do you have a source? If it has all those then I'm going to be happy :)

Edit: I recall something about NiN back during one of the Investor Meetings, though, I don't remember that information.

Nintendo (and Ubisoft) has been saying those things in bits and pieces since last year. People just chose to latch on certain comments and say the online would be like the "Wild Wild West". If you have a moment, here is a post I made about that in the first thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29416808&postcount=2659

Possibly useful multitasking possibly confirmed!

The patent seemed to indicate it would have a rather large role in Wii U.
 

Linkhero1

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Nintendo (and Ubisoft) has been saying those things in bits and pieces since last year. People just chose to latch on certain comments and say the online would be like the "Wild Wild West". If you have a moment, here is a post I made about that in the first thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29416808&postcount=2659

Thanks bg. Going to read through it.

Edit: Lol. I love the part where Ubisoft wouldn't comment on achievements and right in the next quote they give it away that there will be achievements.
 

Erethian

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Wii U should be good to go then based on the needs. Thought I don't know about the accounts being tied in with Club Nintendo.

That will depend on whether the online account and the eShop (or whatever they call the digital store) account are separate.

Another thing they need to do is make good on the talk of communities. A more robust implementation that is there from day one as a default part of the Wii U SDK for all developers to use.
 

usmanusb

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I was watching this old E3 1996 video of the revealing of N64.

It's cool to see how amazed people were by everything back then.

And it was cool to see Howard Lincoln there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYpqLwUj77k

This N64 1996 promo was neat too. Has Ken Lobb in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxUmSyZ7Ylo&feature=related


no doubt it was really impressive and gaming appeal was more on the hardcore stuff something like x360...and many of the games pave the way for many new genre and games.
funny in the video they were using 360 degree graphics few times. seems like xbox 360 was born back then :D
 
That will depend on whether the online account and the eShop (or whatever they call the digital store) account are separate.

Another thing they need to do is make good on the talk of communities. A more robust implementation that is there from day one as a default part of the Wii U SDK for all developers to use.

I would assume that they would be tied together. Seems pointless not to do that.
 

Linkhero1

Member
After reading your post bg I can say that I'm officially excited about Wii U's online. It sounds like it's going to be a lot better than XBL. Gahhh I can't wait for E3.

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After reading your post bg I can say that I'm officially excited about Wii U's online. It sounds like it's going to be a lot better than XBL. Gahhh I can't wait for E3.

http://i.imgur.com/2zqLZ.gif

Haha. And all of that was from Nintendo and Ubisoft's own words which makes it even better. I still do feel that Nintendo's system will be comparable to XBL Gold, but without the fee.

I still wanna see MS's E3 presser end with a video montage of all the lame Rare game since MS acquired them, followed by "C-C-COMBO BREAKERRR" into a brain melting KI3 reveal. 1080p, handdrawn art, gorgeous 3D environments, 60fps, Sabrewulf vs. Thunder for 3:00 minutes of high level play, ending with a Ultra Combo. E3 implodes, Nintendo's conference still to come.

...and free new revisions of the newest 360 Slims to all attendee's.

I don't know. I liked the cheap CG quality that KI brought. Give me that only modern. :p
 

antonz

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I am pretty optimistic for Nintendos online. It will without a doubt have that Nintendo touch to it but the days of no or crap online are over
 

Linkhero1

Member
Haha. And all of that was from Nintendo and Ubisoft's own words which makes it even better. I still do feel that Nintendo's system will be comparable to XBL Gold, but without the fee.

Also when all of the Nintendo reps that talked about it's online, they knew what they were talking about. All of them were saying the same thing. I'm pretty giddy to see it in action. Ubisoft gave out a lot more info regarding Wii U's online than Nintendo did when demoing Ghost Recon :p

I am pretty optimistic for Nintendos online. It will without a doubt have that Nintendo touch to it but the days of no or crap online are over

:) Full of exciiiiiiite.
 
I'm still wondering if blops 2 will be enhanced on wiiU in any way, graphics wise. One can hope right?

I won't be playing it on console, but probably not. Although all the new different stuff their trying for the game might include special Upad functionality, but I doubt it'll be noticeably visually enhanced.
 
I am pretty optimistic for Nintendos online. It will without a doubt have that Nintendo touch to it but the days of no or crap online are over

I would like Nintendo's touch to be something like what Boris (I believe) and myself came up with back in the first thread. But that's too good to be true. :(
 

Instro

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I'm still wondering if blops 2 will be enhanced on wiiU in any way, graphics wise. One can hope right?

I think it will be. Last time this came up some poster mentioned that Treyarch had said that they would be looking to do more graphically with the PC version. If that's the case then WiiU will probably those upgrades plus 720p.
 

Rich!

Member
Hard to say. Treyarch could finally make an HD Call of Duty and no more of the 600P stuff.

Displaying in HD would be a no-brainer. It'd take, what, a line of code at best?

Haven't got any experience on programming anything other than SNES ASM, so wouldn't know, but its gotta be simple enough, right?
 
Displaying in HD would be a no-brainer. It'd take, what, a line of code at best?

Haven't got any experience on programming anything other than SNES ASM, so wouldn't know, but its gotta be simple enough, right?

It'll be the 360 version in 720p graphically, nothing more nothing less. Bet on that.

Upad functionality is a toss up as to how tacked on it might be. But bet on that too.
 

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
2.5 weeks before reveal and still no leaks? I'm disappointed.

Well, there were these rumors just yesterday...

#12685: Slew of rumours involving console box redesigned, black chassis, Nintendo branded HDMI cables, Retro's project being "massive", 0.7MP DRC camera (note: that'd be around ~1024x768 or maybe 640p), voice chat "running perfectly", a lot of third party games coming for E3
 

antonz

Member
It'll be the 360 version in 720p graphically, nothing more nothing less. Bet on that.

Upad functionality is a toss up as to how tacked on it might be. But bet on that too.

Upad will probably be used quite heavily if they didnt start late on the version. I mean all the tactical pad usage in game screams Upad usage
 
Aren't they still using the old ass Quake 2 engine? Sure, Treyarch can make the Wii U version run at a native HD resolution at 60FPS, that would be something I guess.
 
Sorry to make you look through the thread, but what was the idea you guys had?

No problem as I was just about to look back at it for myself after those memories were jogged a little. It started when Boris (who is banned, another one bites the dust) responded to a post from artwalknoon.

boris feinbrand said:
Bolded part: Wuhu Island. It just makes so much sense. They could continually add minigames for cash (wave race, Wii sports collection etc etc)

Might make too much sense I guess.

bgassassin said:
Now we know it won't happen when sense reaches that level. Sections of the Island could have "EA Resorts" or Valve Villa".

boris feinbrand said:
*faints* Valve Villa^^ lol. Would be great if instead of doors it had portals all around, and the back yard had a Ravenholm Theme. In that Regard, you could also include a Resident Evil Mansion there...

My masterplan would put Animal Crossing in there as well. Your City is basically your gamercard, and is located as an Island outside the main Wuhu Island. Basically, you can visit your friends towns by flying there or warping.

bgassassin said:
I was... thinking the same thing.

Get out of my head boris!

Crap I need to de-hype myself since all this pretty much guaranteed not to happen. :(

boris feinbrand said:
Same here. I was talking with my girlfriend yesterday when she watched the Animal Crossing 3D trailer on the 3DS and she actually came up with that idea, so I stole it from her^^.
Wuhu Island really has a nice appeal to it. The style is charming and works well with the Mii look. Making it a hub for all the Wuhu Island based games would be just too nice.

I promise not to mention it again though, as I just get sad knowing that it will never happen.
 

Erethian

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Nintendo (and Ubisoft) has been saying those things in bits and pieces since last year. People just chose to latch on certain comments and say the online would be like the "Wild Wild West". If you have a moment, here is a post I made about that in the first thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29416808&postcount=2659

It seems pretty obvious now that the online flexibility Iwata has been talking about is more in terms of certification compliance than anything else. In that it will have less requirements in terms of online implementation than what Microsoft requires, for instance, and developers will have more choice on what features they do and don't want to use.

Which can be both a good and a bad thing, depending on your point of view. But I think there's been a growing sentiment over the last few years that Microsoft could do to be a bit less stringent on what a game needs to have, so far as online goes, to pass cert. And as someone who enjoys the greater flexibility on PC, even for Steamworks games, I can't say I'd be complaining.

It probably also means that stuff like F2P will have a much easier time getting on the Wii U, considering that whenever Iwata has talked about flexibility he talks about it in the same sentence as how fast the online sphere is changing.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
#12685: Retro's project being "massive", a lot of third party games coming for E3

Sources for these?
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I am pretty optimistic for Nintendos online. It will without a doubt have that Nintendo touch to it but the days of no or crap online are over
Me thinks 3ds was already a pretty good indicator of that.
 

Rich!

Member
Well, there were these rumors just yesterday...

Holy crap. Any truth in that rumour?

A glossy, sleek black console at launch would be great. Nintendo really need to make it look like a high end piece of kit, and I don't really think the Wii U's current form evokes that.

Nintendo branded HDMI cables are an absolute goddamn certainty, we can be sure of that.
 

Izick

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I wonder if Wii U will be able to run Beyond Good and Evil 2....wait a minute...was that green and white hint/rumor allegedly a third party game?...

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Aren't they still using the old ass Quake 2 engine? Sure, Treyarch can make the Wii U version run at a native HD resolution at 60FPS, that would be something I guess.

Why do people still say this? The engine may have been based on it originally but its a bit silly to think that they are still using that same one. Engines get upgraded in substantial ways through the years to meet current demands, especially one that gets as much money and production value as CoD. So, no. They dont use quake 2's engine.
 
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