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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country

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Nibel

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Sorry to bust that bubble - Wii U will be white; it will have a lot of stuff common with its predecessor when it comes to design :) / :(
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
That next-gen console Keighley (UE4 reveal) thread is infuriating, yet hilarious. People already saying Wii-U isn't next-gen, weaker then the HD twins, blah blah. The meltdowns shall be glorious this year, but even more so next year when they finally realize how small of an upgrade the the "real next-gen" consoles will be.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
lol sounds classy :p

Mate any new news about the OS on the Wii U?

Since what i said on this subject ? No sorry :(

Well, something vague but i think i already touched on that: it really seems we'll have important system updates during the Wii U lifespan. Why ? Because it's build with this element in mind.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
Sorry to bust that bubble - Wii U will be white; it will have a lot of stuff common with its predecessor when it comes to design :) / :(

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Dascu

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That next-gen console Keighley (UE4 reveal) thread is infuriating, yet hilarious. People already saying Wii-U isn't next-gen, weaker then the HD twins, blah blah. The meltdowns shall be glorious this year, but even more so next year when they finally realize how small of an upgrade the the "real next-gen" consoles will be.
But when you get down to it, WiiU probably won't be next-gen in the traditional sense of a hardware upgrade. And if it can't run UE4, but the competitors can, then it seriously threatens the prospect of (Western) 3rd-party support. In other words, another Wii situation like with UE3.

What I'm saying is; sure you can point fingers now and talk about impending "meltdowns". But be careful, couple of years from now it could bite Nintendo in the ass (again).
 

Anth0ny

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Looks like Wii U won't be getting UE4.

Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but graphics and performance are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Wii U, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and upgrade the graphics or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 

Pocks

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Looks like Wii U won't be getting UE4.

Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but graphics and performance are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Wii U, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and upgrade the graphics or you can kiss your business goodbye.

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DrWong

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Looks like Wii U won't be getting UE4.

Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but graphics and performance are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Wii U, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and upgrade the graphics or you can kiss your business goodbye.

Over-Dramatic Speculation?
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
But when you get down to it, WiiU probably won't be next-gen in the traditional sense of a hardware upgrade. And if it can't run UE4, but the competitors can, then it seriously threatens the prospect of (Western) 3rd-party support. In other words, another Wii situation like with UE3.

What I'm saying is; sure you can point fingers now and talk about impending "meltdowns". But be careful, couple of years from now it could bite Nintendo in the ass (again).

Once again it is the next system released therefore it is a next gen system regardless of power. If sony rebranded an atari 2600 as the next playstation, it would be Next Generation.....
 

Donnie

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But when you get down to it, WiiU probably won't be next-gen in the traditional sense of a hardware upgrade. And if it can't run UE4, but the competitors can, then it seriously threatens the prospect of (Western) 3rd-party support. In other words, another Wii situation like with UE3.

What I'm saying is; sure you can point fingers now and talk about impending "meltdowns". But be careful, couple of years from now it could bite Nintendo in the ass (again).

But it can and will run it, that's an absolute certainty. UE4 will run on mobile phones, never mind WiiU. Seriously, can we have a sticky which just says "Stop thinking of UE4 has a high end game, its fucking engine!!!"
 

abasm

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I seem to recall impressions of the Wii being hesitant, but positive, around the time it launched across most media outlets. It really wasn't until after that first year, with the drought of relevant core games and Nintendo's "casual" success, that anybody felt spurned by Nintendo's direction with the Wii. Nintendo sent a message during that time--"stop paying attention to us, we aren't talking to you any more." Even since they've turned the Wii around with a ton of great games, they haven't dispelled the prevailing negative stereotypes surrounding Nintendo. Nobody takes handhelds seriously enough for the 3DS to have an effect on that attitude.

It will fall to the Wii U to represent a fresh start and a new set of promises. If Nintendo can make good on their promises and deliver great games steadily over that first year, then they could turn the popular opinion around.
 

Dascu

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Once again it is the next system released therefore it is a next gen system regardless of power. If sony rebranded an atari 2600 as the next playstation, it would be Next Generation.....
Sure. But there's not much use calling the WiiU a next generation system when its hardware can't run the next generation of middleware engines.

But it can and will run it, that's an absolute certainty. UE4 will run on mobile phones, never mind WiiU. Seriously, can we have a sticky which just says "Stop thinking of UE4 has a high end game, its fucking engine!!!"
Well I hope so. I hope it'll be easy for 3rd parties to have multiplatform games on all of the home consoles.
 

Donnie

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Looks like Wii U won't be getting UE4.

Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but graphics and performance are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Wii U, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and upgrade the graphics or you can kiss your business goodbye.

So you're trying to tell me UE4 will be a engine built only for a certain level of performance? Absolute rubbish, Epic will scale it for every device with a modern-ish feature set.

Tell me, how does it look like WiiU won't be getting UE4? What's this based on?
 
That next-gen console Keighley (UE4 reveal) thread is infuriating, yet hilarious. People already saying Wii-U isn't next-gen, weaker then the HD twins, blah blah. The meltdowns shall be glorious this year, but even more so next year when they finally realize how small of an upgrade the the "real next-gen" consoles will be.
I'm glad that I'm not the only person that (rightly) assumes this.
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
But when you get down to it, WiiU probably won't be next-gen in the traditional sense of a hardware upgrade. And if it can't run UE4, but the competitors can, then it seriously threatens the prospect of (Western) 3rd-party support. In other words, another Wii situation like with UE3.

What I'm saying is; sure you can point fingers now and talk about impending "meltdowns". But be careful, couple of years from now it could bite Nintendo in the ass (again).

Well, both of us are still in the dark (as of now) but I believe that Wii-U will support some version of UE4. I also believe that UE4 is a ways out and that it will not be the defacto engine of this gen like UE3 was. I also think that the PS4 will be on a similar level Hardware-wise as the Wii-U, which will cause problems for the 720 if it is a huge graphical leap.

But that's a whole lot of speculation of course.
 
There is a 90% chance that the Wii U will run UE4.
Nintendo has been optimizing third party middle wares and the system itself, and to ignore UE4 would be an enormous error, and wouldn't fit in with what we've been hearing from Nintendo and third parties.
 

Donnie

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Do we actually know for sure that Wii U isn't getting UE4 or are people just being dumb?

Yes, we've been told that Epic have decided they only want their future engines to run on systems with over 1Tflop of performance. They decided they were making too much money and want to now focus on a niche of higher end gaming...

No we don't know, its all nonsense.
 

Nibel

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Hey Nibel i forward you a message i received from someone on another website, requesting something from you:

Haha :D
Problem is that I have a lot to do at university right now and I don't see much purpose of mockups right now since E3 is just a few days away - but if they show nothing at E3 2012 again, then I will do something :lol

Plus I need to do some things for BY2K's conference thread
 

Dascu

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There is a 90% chance that the Wii U will run UE4.
Nintendo has been optimizing third party middle wares and the system itself, and to ignore UE4 would be an enormous error, and wouldn't fit in with what we've been hearing from Nintendo and third parties.

Probably. Plus the hardware and its shader capabilities will be more modern/more standard than the GCN and Wii were. Still, there's the chance that 3rd parties will struggle with releasing (downscaled) UE4 games on the WiiU, or at the very least that they'll look worse so that the average consumer would prefer to buy a different console (or PC, if he's got any wits) to play those games.

Wiiu has a great chance of running some form of Unreal 4. You really should not present your opinion as fact.

Do I need to end each and everyone of my posts with "IN MY OPINION" now? Of course it's just speculation instead of fact.
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Sure. But there's not much use calling the WiiU a next generation system when its hardware can't run the next generation of middleware engines.

Wiiu has a great chance of running some form of Unreal 4. You really should not present your opinion as fact.
 

abasm

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There is a 90% chance that the Wii U will run UE4.
Nintendo has been optimizing third party middle wares and the system itself, and to ignore UE4 would be an enormous error, and wouldn't fit in with what we've been hearing from Nintendo and third parties.

Not only that, but Epic will make every effort to get their Unreal Engine running wherever it can. Keep in mind that UE3 runs on mobile phones and in Adobe Flash now. The only reason it isn't on the Wii is because it fell just behind the "programmable shaders" curve when it was released. If Nintendo had included that, we might have seen SD ports of most next-gen games.
 
Probably. Plus the hardware and its shader capabilities will be more modern/more standard than the GCN and Wii were. Still, there's the chance that 3rd parties will struggle with releasing (downscaled) UE4 games on the WiiU, or at the very least that they'll look worse so that the average consumer would prefer to buy a different console (or PC, if he's got any wits) to play those games.
It all depends. There's two ways this generation can go. (Assuming the Wii U can run UE4)

1. The Wii U is a huge success. It becomes the lead platform for all multiplats. Games look a bit better on the other systems.

2. The Wii U struggles. Focus shifts to the other systems. Wii U gets a lot of multiplats but they look about like PS3/360 games.
shifts
 

Conor 419

Banned
Reggie

'We here at Nintendo, we listen to our fans. We read the blogs, we know what you guys want.'

*paces stage*

'And one thing we absolutely know, is that a certain demo we displayed to you in 2011, left a great number of you shocked and amazed at what we can do with the Wii U.

*paces stage*

'The demo featured stunning graphics, a strong, atmospheric environment and most importantly, infinite gameplay potential through our innovative control scheme. It was a terrific example of what experiences the Wii U, can bring to you'.

*paces stage*

'Well, what if I told you that what we showed...was not a demo'

*Pause, crowd let of a quick cheer*

'What if I told you, that all along. This demo was a collaborative project between Retro Studios and Nintendo EAD, a project overseen by the legendary Shigeru Miyamoto'

*Crowd goes wild, Retro Zelda HD demo was real. Omgggggggg*

'Well I am pleased to announce to you, that Bird: The Game, will be launching 2013, exclusively for the Nintendo Wii U'.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
A little hype time ! In this darksiders 2 interview, Vigil explains how they're implementing some FX in the late stage of their game development and how it greatly increase its visual quality

One visual improvement Vigil has been able to make to the game as a result of the delay is the addition of snow to the CrowFather level (the game's first), which was demoed to press at a London pre-E3 event last week.

"Even two weeks ago there was no snow blowing across the level," Fitzloff revealed. "You think it's obvious. But I played this game constantly and I was like, ah, it looks great, and then all of a sudden that blowing snow gets in and I'm just like, wow.

"It's all these tiny little details that if they weren't there none would be the wiser, but they do add a solid atmosphere element. It's just polish. You don't notice the little details but when they all come together it does make a big difference and gets you into the game more."

I stated in my very first message that all my sources told me they can't really judge the graphical aspect of the projects they're working on for Wii U, as a lot of nice effects, of visual additions, will be made more during the end steps of development than the beginning. As the result was already solid without this nice polish, it can only get better in the end !

HYPE !
 

abasm

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It all depends. There's two ways this generation can go. (Assuming the Wii U can run UE4)

1. The Wii U is a huge success. It becomes the lead platform for all multiplats. Games look a bit better on the other systems.

2. The Wii U struggles. Focus shifts to the other systems. Wii U gets a lot of multiplats but they look about like PS3/360 games.
shifts

There's also an additional incentive to keep the same standards of appearance into next-gen. Game budgets and development times are so enormous now that games can't get much better visually; at least, not until UE4.
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Did you just make this up or something? I can't seem to find where you got this info.

Obviously he used it to copy the post about square putting final fantasy on xbox that has become a meme.
I'm sure many are assuming it won't be on WiiU because Spike is revealing U4 instead of it being revealed at Nintendo's confrence.
 
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